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Do you noticed that  Skullcracker is not in new ghb?.

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Was expecting to see something about allies in the GHB but after an initial pass I can't see anything. Am I missing something or has this been over looked again?

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WHAT?!  That will suck ****** if those aren't available to use in matched play anymore.  They were THE units that wrecked the most face for me in every game I had them.

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On 6/21/2019 at 12:29 PM, Entombet said:

Do you noticed that  Skullcracker is not in new ghb?.

Yeah I was just looking through it and logged on to comment, that has to be a misprint, the warscroll is still available on forgeworld. They usually do all they can to keep existing models available for play for people that own them, I'll be pretty pissed if they just refuse to make it playable anymore. 

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On 6/22/2019 at 4:22 AM, Oldshrimpeyes said:

Was expecting to see something about allies in the GHB but after an initial pass I can't see anything. Am I missing something or has this been over looked again?

Yeah idk if we were overlooked in the chaos allies section, that would be horrible if they were taking away all of our allies too because we used to have plenty of people we could ally in. I'm assuming most of this is an oversight because it is the first time they are starting to print forgeworld material in the GHB. At least I am hoping, I was actually pretty hopeful when I heard about it because forgeworld takes so long with updates I was hoping they might have handed over just the points updates to GW which would mean they might come more regularly but that's just all speculation.

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I just sent an email and posted on their facebook page inquiring about both the Skullcracker points and the allies list. We should all send emails to get them to address it in the FAQ or  something if they intend to keep them around.

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Oof.

While I'm hoping it's a misprint / omission, its something that I've been dreading. 

The cast is broken and they don't make it anymore. That being said, there's a ton in circulation and probably more conversions.
If emails don't work, an online petition could add that small note in the FAQ.

 

Cross your fingers.

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It's not much but they did have me forward it to the official GW email that usually deals with the FAQ release so that is something.

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I can semi understand the skull cracker. It's been OOP for a while now but for such a limited unit pool army, taking a choice away if you actually have one is mad. I know they don't like people converting things from none GW material but when they physically don't sell it anymore not sure I see the issue. 

The allies going is just madness though, literally no reason I can think of to justify it. Holding out for a correction via faq or update to the "battletome" pdf. 

Failing that pretend this year didn't happen and continue with the 2018 rules 😆

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I am sure its just an Error. 

 

I cant imagine them taking Away our strongest unit and/or allegiances. 

 

I mean even the mammoth and other oop stuff is still legally featured 

 

 

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Without the Chaos Sorcerer Lord ally, my K'daai heavy list stops making sense. 

I have a 2K tourney coming up and without the CSL, I'd have to re-imagine my entire list and strategy.

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4 minutes ago, Televiper11 said:

Without the Chaos Sorcerer Lord ally, my K'daai heavy list stops making sense. 

I have a 2K tourney coming up and without the CSL, I'd have to re-imagine my entire list and strategy.

Buff up and melt face? 

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2 hours ago, mattbarker said:

Buff up and melt face? 

I think @Televiper11 is saying , is that w/o the Chaos Sorc. Lord, he can't buff the unit the way the list was designed around. Without any allies, it'd be near impossible to. Mystic shield doesn't exactly work on Kdaai.

Only having endless spells and ash storm would be limiting. 
It very much feels as these are omissions.

 

(whew)

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2 minutes ago, Blackspine said:

I think @Televiper11 is saying , is that w/o the Chaos Sorc. Lord, he can't buff the unit the way the list was designed around. Without any allies, it'd be near impossible to. Mystic shield doesn't exactly work on Kdaai.

Only having endless spells and ash storm would be limiting. 
It very much feels as these are omissions.

 

(whew)

Spot on.

We do have Fireball still though.

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1 minute ago, Televiper11 said:

Spot on.

We do have Fireball still though.

"I didn't ask how big the room is, I said 'i cast fireball'."

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1 hour ago, Blackspine said:

I think @Televiper11 is saying , is that w/o the Chaos Sorc. Lord, he can't buff the unit the way the list was designed around. Without any allies, it'd be near impossible to. Mystic shield doesn't exactly work on Kdaai.

Only having endless spells and ash storm would be limiting. 
It very much feels as these are omissions.

 

(whew)

I know, I use him for the exact same thing. Was just looking for s brother in arms in sharing strategy incase this isn't a mistake.  Was about to line up another 6 fireborn from FW but this is really making me question my dedication 

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36 minutes ago, mattbarker said:

I know, I use him for the exact same thing. Was just looking for s brother in arms in sharing strategy incase this isn't a mistake.  Was about to line up another 6 fireborn from FW but this is really making me question my dedication 

Yeah, I'd hold off until this gets clarified. K'daai would still have their uses, just less so, imo. If they FAQ allies back in, I'll be happy to run them in  big numbers again.

If not, I'm thinking of rebuilding my list from the ground-up around the Artillery Train + Blackshard Warhost.

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I don't play The 9th Age or Legion of Azgorh, but was randomly flicking through their forum and saw this complete history of the Chaos dwarfs from the 80's to the present day (including Blood Bowl and Man o' War).

https://www.the-ninth-age.com/index.php?thread/46255-chaos-dwarfs-through-the-ages-whfb/

I was exclusively a Big Hat guy in the 90's, and I thought it might be a nostalgia trip for others too.

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I was just thinking how cool some of the merc companies could fit in fluff wise because instead of paying them I'd love to build a narrative list where the Legion has just begun slipping into other realms to keep enslaving other races. Paint up the other models in chains. I was so bummed when we lost all of our hobgoblin slaves and now I can add slaves back into my army! Would be super fun for a narrative list but I haven't read through them enough yet to see if any of them would be competitive or not. I guess I know what I'm doing with my day off tomorrow lol.

Anyone see any that would match up well with the army yet?

 

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That's a super awesome take on the mercs!  Assuming we still cannot use the Skullcrackers, I was thinking the two big giants could be useful, or Skroug's menagerie for one giant and some furies, who are fast and can fly, though I haven't seen how they compare points wise to K'daai.

The vampire knights are also an interesting choice....or the flesheater courts if we can take a big dragony guy with them, I see no 'Royal' ones, but maybe they have peasant versions?

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13 minutes ago, Lord Krungharr said:

That's a super awesome take on the mercs!  Assuming we still cannot use the Skullcrackers, I was thinking the two big giants could be useful, or Skroug's menagerie for one giant and some furies, who are fast and can fly, though I haven't seen how they compare points wise to K'daai.

The vampire knights are also an interesting choice....or the flesheater courts if we can take a big dragony guy with them, I see no 'Royal' ones, but maybe they have peasant versions?

Furies are 60pts. 

I've run them before for their cheap mvt and ability to act as chaff. That merc company is intriquing.

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I'm seeing the potential in a Skroug's based list. Here's a rough draft:


Mortal Realm: Aqshy
Bull Centaur Taur'ruk (160)
- General
- Trait: Grotesque 
- Artefact: Armour of Bazherak the Cruel 
Daemonsmith (100)
- Darkforged Weapon
- Artefact: Chalice of Blood and Darkness 
Infernal Guard Castellan (120)
- Darkforged Weapon & Pyrelock Pistol
- Artefact: Thermalrider Cloak 
Infernal Guard Battle Standard Bearer (100)
10 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (100)
10 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (100)
10 x Infernal Guard Ironsworn (90)
10 x Infernal Guard Ironsworn (90)
5 x Furies (60)
- Allies
1 x Chaos Spawn (50)
- Allies
Chaos Gargant (170)
- Allies
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher (120)
Magma Cannon (140)
Magma Cannon (140)
Iron Daemon War Engine (180)
Blackshard Warhost (160)
Hashut's Wrath Artillery Train (120)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 280 / 400
Wounds: 112
 

Maybe drop the Standard Bearer & the Blackshard Warhost to take some K'daai or Endless Spells but that third artefact is kinda tasty.

Could also drop the Chaos Spawn for an extra CP.

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