Browncoat89

You know the combination of the Anvil of Apotheosis, my considerations of running a more lore friendly list through StD or CoS, and what allies we are using though really makes me think about how it could be fun to use allies the same way. Run an allied blue scribes warscroll as a custom super powerful sorcerer prophet of Hashut or something like that. Just building a list with allies but then reskinning that ally as a lore friendly dwarf model just like you did with running Skarbrand as the K'Daai destroyer. I don't think I do that enough and I think it brings a lot to the army.

I used to run a Chaos War Mammoth a lot. I fit it in to the lore that one dwarven clan saved Tamurkhan in a battle and were gifted a War Mammoth that they now use for their kingdom's industry as a slave mammoth. It has smoke stacks on top and a large cage of bars for going out and collecting and transporting their hobgoblins or other captives from the battelfield. It was a good model but it lost it's giant fall footprint witht the new warscroll update. It was fantastic for keeping the heat off my artillery though.

I hope we get a FAQ that will allow us exclusively to make Duardin wizard heroes in the Anvil of Apotheosis. I doubt we necessarily will but it would be cool. Seeing all the extra features that the other armies get to use almost make me want to run the lore and models on the mechanics of another army even more. It'll instantly give access to specific endless spells, bring back the original format of the army with hobgoblins, and all that. I mean we can still use the Anvil of Apotheosis in most friendly games, I doubt anyone will throw a fit at us using the Duardin ancestry even though they forgot to specifically put <Legion of Azgorh> underneath it but it is definitely still aparant that the army as a whole is just an afterthought most of the time.

Well that is good news at least, no points changes either, no changes in the rules? I know there was some speculation on that when Forgeworld dropped the PDF downloads from the site. Well I suppose we are alive even if there is no update, I suppose there shouldn't really be any surprise there.

Yeah I completely agree, I am not too worried about it. What I love about the legion is the models and the lore. It would be great if the army stayed updated but if they squat anything too significant or if the compendium gets discontinued I'll keep running the models and a lore themed army through a different army book like StD or CoS.

Yeah I just found a list on twitter of 8 of the StD lists that have placed the highest in competitions and it seemed pretty evenly spread, 2 everchosen lists, 3 despoilers, 1 cabalist, 2 ravagers. I know it is early on and a lot of the meta is still getting sorted out, but based on the chaos dwarf models I have I could run that cabalist list and only have to pick up a warshrine, the two ravagers lists I could run with just a warshrine and maybe a couple cavalry units as long as I can successfully switch the bases on my existing cav. The cavalry I currently have for the chaos dwarves, the bull centaur renders are huge models, I am hoping to find a way to run them as chaos knights but I'm worried about them fitting. They are on 90x52 bases and the knights are on 75x42.

Hey guys, I'm new to this thread. I actually have a Chaos Dwarf army but, seeing as how we have been compendium for a while and may get discontinued, I have been working on builiding a Slaves to Darkness army with them to still be able to use my army. I have a lot of great substitutions in the army, but basically I'll be running my heavily armored dwarves and black orcs as chaos warriors and chosen with all of my mauraders being represented by hobgoblin slaves. I want to run either Cabalists or Ravagers but it seems like the general consensus is that the Ravagers are going to be must stronger in the meta, is that correct? What are some of the big synergies in both of those armies I should look out for as I am building my list? Thanks for the help, the chaos dwarf army is so outdated they have hardly had any allegience abilities, no endless spells, etc so I'm having to catch up on some of that.

Yeah I am actually currently converting my army to run as Slaves to Darkness until we get a new battletome with officially updated fluff. I figure that way if they get discontinued it won't effect me at all and if we do ever get a battletome I can easily just go back to running the faction specific rules. I'm also doing it because they really started altering a lot of the army without updating the fluff at all to tell us why. I'm thinking I can actually make a way more lore friendly version of the army based on a StD army than I can with the compendium, based on the last official 8th edition lore. These are the substitutions I am planning to make: Hobgoblin cutthroats - mauraders / cultists (same base size) Hobgoblin wolf riders - maurader horsemen (same base size) Chaos dwarf infantry - chaos warriors Black orcs - chaos chosen? maybe reverse this with the chaos dwarves above. Drazhoath - chaos sorcerer lord on a manticore (the base is the same size even if the wingspan is way wider, can just play by base) Shar'tor - chaos lord on karkadrak (same base size) Demonsmith - chaos sorcerer lord or maybe even run as gaunt summoners Skullcracker - gorebeast chariot (same base size) K'daai - Demon Prince or Chaos spawn Dreadquake mortar - hellcannon If I ever really wanted to run my magma cannons in a fluff list I could take the black smoke battery mercenary company Bull centaur renders - chaos knights (this is the only substitution I'm super super concerned about making work. I just don't think the centaurs would fit on the smaller bases. Custom mod a chaos warshrine to be all Hashut themed and maybe custom mod some of the endless spells to have the symbol of Hashut rather than the general chaos symbol. Maybe custom mod a K'daai Destroyer model to run as a slaughter brute, soul grinder, votex beast, war mammoth, etc This is just the basics of the army idea to utilize all the Chaos Dwarf models I already have and keep them releveant, updated, and competitive if the army gets discontinued. I figure it will allow me to run the original concept of big blobs goblin slaves along side a few elite units of dwarves, maybe even sacrificing slaves to empower spells if I go with a cabalist list or just a straight combat list with ravagers. It will also be a way I could field beautiful models like Drazhoath and Shar'tor almost every battle, where as they were never effective enough to run in the actual chaos dwarf lists, as well as bringing in old lore favorites like the K'daai destroyer that were cut from the list. What do you guys think? Any other ideas to keep it chaos dwarf lore friendly, on different substitutions, or anything like that? I'm gonna start working on lists and see what synergies I can come up with.

I don't know how many points they will be in regards to allies but the warhammer community page did say that any army in the game could include one of them in their lists, whether or not it will be effective is a different story.

Btw anyone looking to sell some centaurs?

Those Sons of Behemat allies could be a really great wall to tie things up while all my magma cannons open up on them lol. I know there will be a lot more specualtion when we actually see their stat lines but you guys hopeful they will be a little boost for the army lists? We traditionally did modify some gargants for war anyways so we could probably make it work lore wise.

Oh wow, I know I've been out of the game for a little while but that is a huge change, it's like when they started separating artillery crew from the artillery model. That seems super inconsistent, seems like if they are considered separate models for the purposes of artefacts you should be able to target them separately and everything as well. Huh okay, good to know thanks for filling me in.

Looking for thoughts, I love taking a keeper as my general and giving them awesome artefacts but I recently thought of how good some of the artefacts would be on a blade bringer on exalted chariot just because of the volume of attacks. If you augment those attacks in any way that is amplified quite a bit by the sheer number. Like the runeblade for rend -3 on 9 attacks, or ghyrstrike so now all 23 attacks (if the ability doesn't generate even more) are hitting on 2+ wounding on 3+, or even things I'd never take on a hero like the keeper because the odds are so low like sword of judgement. That is doing D6 mortal wounds to heros or monsters on a hit roll of 6+. If they sacrifice a wound to the fane or take a command trait to reroll hits then they are getting 9+ attacks rerolling all fails, statistically likely to get at least two 6's that could be 2d6 mortal wounds to enemy heros in addition to the 14 other attacks they have. idk just thought, and there is no reason you still couldn't run a keeper or two each with their own artefact as well.

Hey you guys I had a question and I wanted to see how you guys would rule it. I came across a few artefacts like the Sword of Judgement from the realm of shadows that reads, If the hit roll for this weapon against a monster or hero is a 6+ then it deals d6 mortal wounds and the attack sequence ends. How do you guys think this rule would play in with our exploding 6's? Would it deal d6 mortal wounds then not generate another attack at all because the attack sequence immediately ends, would just that one 6 end it's attack sequence and you roll all the other hit rolls with one additional dice in there from the exploding 6 or, and I doubt it, but would it generate 2d6 mortals. Again I doubt it on that last one just in general wondering how the mortal wounds and ending the attack sequence would factor in with generating extra attacks, thanks.

I was just thinking how cool some of the merc companies could fit in fluff wise because instead of paying them I'd love to build a narrative list where the Legion has just begun slipping into other realms to keep enslaving other races. Paint up the other models in chains. I was so bummed when we lost all of our hobgoblin slaves and now I can add slaves back into my army! Would be super fun for a narrative list but I haven't read through them enough yet to see if any of them would be competitive or not. I guess I know what I'm doing with my day off tomorrow lol. Anyone see any that would match up well with the army yet?