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Did anyone listen to the AoS coach interview with the guy who went 5-1 at LVO with Phonecium? Pretty good listen (well the guest interviewed well). Even recommended trying Rangers instead of PG (for me who has 30 Rangers and no PG i think I wnat to give it a go).

Ahhhh the joy of painting models, playing friends, having fun, and not thinking about 1-7 ever because, JOMO about things that don't matter.

Josh Reynolds had a gift for finding a unique niche and bringing that fresh take into Warhammer lore. Having lost him i doubt I will really read much more about AoS unless it is specifically Beasts of Chaos, Slaanesh or Sylvaneth/Wanderer. However since this is BL anything space ork from the ork point of view is all that really interests me these days. BL/GW FINALLY figured out people are sick of 921,254,234 books about space marines and could leverage sales into more interesting books, like,.. Eldar and Orks. The last few novels/novellas/short stories from the Ork perspective are the best.

People aren't good at breaking off the norm. When something outside a narrow view is introduced or changes generally the vocal minority raises a negative response (such as the pricing change). Two classic examples for me, this century are (40k) Planet Strike and Storm of Magic. Both created some new different ways to play and at least locally people revolted if they found one instance where it was a game breaking issue (such as a HE dragon mage on that platform thingy). The games i played were different and fun. Did I care about balance? No, did i have fun? Yes, was my opponent into it? yes. In the end of 8th ed the game proved so imbalanced and army books had significant cases of internal and external balance issues, when I heard about people breaking off and playing for fun, using End Times rules and enjoying the game over practicing for tournaments, those people where shunned. AND that was the edition that killed nearly all local player's interest in Fantasy. 40k introduced a really good system for Crusade, it exists in AoS I believe and I've heard little about people playing it. It's nearly impossible to get people to play with anything other than 2k Matched Play points. It comes down to asking people to try something and seeing how it worked. Also not being overly negative. Wasn't there a meme that said "the two things gamers hate are change and lack of change." Be the change you want. Find people who will play Path to Glory, make bat reps, promote them, talk about playing the game in a system that isn't strictly 2k MP. I'm all for playing different ways to play and hope you succeed and kudos for bringing this up

They indirectly did, sure. Not directly. But any other unit that leveraged Unleash Hell and leaned on it heavy did. GW didn't directly address those specific units. Again, plays more into GW doesn't really address Wanderers in anyway. However LC getting a nerf could be likely, Wanderers won't.

You have every opportunity to walk away from your luxury hobby at any moment in your life instead of react like a grand tragedy has been slighted upon you.

So long as the scrutiny is fixing how weak Wanderers (outside SotW) are then okay. I'm not sure they will honestly give it much scrutiny, if any.

Not bad news just usual news. Everything is going up, why be surprised or complain about things that continually happen.

Couple BoC lists did well. 24 bullgor list (had Shaggoth, Khorne DP, Grashrak, Sphirank) went 4-1 at LVO and 2 Shaggoth, 4 x Dragon Ogre units and it went 5-0 in some tournament (just saw a 20 second clip on twitter, not sure where but it was on the Honest Wargamer twitch. There were leaks about the BoC WD and it's 12 pages. I'm guessing a few for PtG, Narrative, fluff and maybe a couple paragraphs but the key one was Herdstone change. EatBrayLove has been hammering WarCom on twitter for a start of 12" range on the terrain 1st turn. Who knows,. maybe GW will listen.

really? I assume they would get the charge having good mobility and only being 3 models. Perhaps i'm missing out entirely.

Best Painted is most often bright primary colours that catch the eye. Or something like that. painting skill in tournaments rarely matter in voting since it's democratic voting. Most people dont' paint well and most people get easily impressed with bright and shiny. yeah, i'm keen for that too. Granted you could always just play something outlandish like 6 Doombull lists

Well,.. you are unlikely to kill your enemy right? So they'll generate one won't they? Even if your Slaangors die outright. They are a "beastmen" unit so always look at them being garbage and how they disappoint then be surprised if they turn that around and impress you

Hope not on bated breath. Hope is the first step to disappointment or whatever. TBH it will be something that will do something and likely a small boost if not a good one.

Wade and his dog. A la his twitter account. A white board from Pete Foley with a drop. Orion model as Kurnoth, and pan-elves akin to the Kurnothi Warband from Shadespire. These are pretty sensible and entirely not unrealistic. Someone has a Palantir

Let it go already. "waah waaah wah, something I cannot tactically think about so it should be removed".

wow quiet thread. Another guy in a tournament did well~ish with BoC last weekend. I couldn't find his list though. He did win best painted but they were average so I assume it was curb appeal, the painting competition and novelty of seeing goats.

Perhaps some battalions or some additional trait or ability. I haven't read them all, just the CoS one which was okay at best. I was just writing a Warherd last night and forgot about the BR "bonuses" we got. I got pretty excited then I noticed Razorgors don't have the Warherd keyword. booo hiss... Those are good options. This is BoC. Just like the hardcore scene,.. we can't have nice things. TBH I'm mostly worried this will be it. GW may have noticed they slow trickle of people loving Gor models, buying in then realizing they made a bad unit will hit them and they'll be like "give them more rules to sucker people into buying into a great looking army with terrible rules." Yeah, if anything it makes it like we've had 2 bandages applied (BR and this) and an AoS 3 book could not be on the books,.. so to speak... That would just be so good. I was excited to hear Bullgors were good options in Godseekers and I think Khorne? Having some way of running a full Warherd army in Khorne with a few buffs would be nice again. Allow for buffs of Bullgors under Khorne. Speaking of which I wrote up a quick Warherd list unsure since I haven't played AoS since August.... 3 Doombulls (one with Gavespawn trait/weapon) 8x3 Bullgors 3 Ghorgons Cygor It's 1975 points. I have a chimera, LOTS of Brayherd and some Thunderscorn but TBH I want to just ****** around with my Warherd again and this is my collection. I think someone mentioned the bull spell and a Sphiranx (i have the former). Is the Sphiranx such a good warscroll I should have it in my collection and work on getting maybe a Tzeentch Shaman in and focus on the ASF options? The other thing I was thinking was Darkwalkers. I've used Darkwalkers before and they are fun and I have so many units here it could be fairly interesting to have 7 ish units ambush in turns 1 and 2. I'm also not sure on Battalions. I could just run Hunters of the Hearthland 8 times and a couple Linebreakers. Try to find things for the other Doombulls. That might have legs. I want a single Doombull, Ghorgon, and 1-2 units of Bullgors to pair up as a "node". So I see no reason for the Alpha beasts battalion other than maybe the Cygor and some extra Bullgor units. I know this is a losing cause but I'm not hitting up tournaments. Oh also on that note, I saw on twitter some Irish BoC player go 3-0 or 2-1 in a one-dayer this past weekend? I didn't see his list or which tournament. But neat.

I did that too. I recall someone saying with Scaly skin and a Shield they had a good save vs say,.. poison skinks which were pretty rampant but then I only had 6 minotaurs. I have 24 now so more options In fact that unit was the one thing that hammered my buddies unkillable Grave Guard. oh lordy... i do NOT miss those editions one bit.. hahah.

did this get posted here? I posted it to the BoC forum.

Back in the day (6th ed Fantasy) there was a couple guys who used to run Khorne MSU Minotaur lists. I think 4-5 with Dual HWs which was like 20 attacks? But they had better WS. I ran MSU bulls in AoS 1 (with points but pre 2nd ed book) and liked it. I would love to run it again. I just wish that as elite troops they didn't hit on 4s but instead 3s. I hate how they are so subject to dice spiking. Granted a Doombull, Ghorgon and 3 Bullgors should be able to do some dmg.

Looks like,.. something... coming.

The woods is a hidden cost in the army and one that hits long time players hard who have previous had upwards of 9 Citadel Forest kits and now needing to buy 1-3 of the new forest kits and a higher cost than a year ago... I would recommend buying one forest kit and using it as 3 individual pieces nad start small. Crusade is a VERY good system so if you could find some people to try Path to Glory it might be a decent starting point? Yes it's complicated. I recommend getting games in at small points levels. Hence Path to Glory too. Learn your units and what they do. But it's not bad to lean towards a few big guys.

Oh yeah? hmmm interesting. Got any suggestions? I was reading the Hedonite thread and someone had Sigvald work 12 Bullgors and a Doombull but,.. i mean,.. that's kinda on part for points and stats... I bought a Sphiranx and returned it for something else. I quite like the model.

I think this is on point. Let's just assume we will get some stuff for AoS and GW will try to find ways to continue to do product development and distribution with some success. All too many people between a chair and keyboard have opinions how they would run a global corporation better in a pandemic with a supply chain issues being one of the latest issues. I hope and predict Beasts of Chaos get a broken OP book that dominates the scene and becomes the biggest bandwagon hopping army in the history of Wargaming too and GW sells so many BoC kits they change the name to Age of Beasts of Chaos. Morghur ascends, Krakanrok beheads every other godhead and makes their heads pillows in his tree fort while eating candy and watching the 1980s hit Monster Squad on Netflix.

haha me too. It does indeed. You both helped solidify some direction for certain. Thanks kindly.