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Thanks for your reply @PJetski. Where I'm playing we play around 1250/1500, we start from 1000 on Warscroll builder then add the remaining point limit. Thus I can play with just two battlelines. I think I'll play my "just bought painted and second hand" Celestant prime instead of the LCoSD. I'll play the heavy artillery Prime, using him for his comet ability. I'm not set on what Stormhost using yet. Indeedee

I'm thinking about playing that list, do you guys think that's potent enough? Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals - Stormhost: Celestial Vindicators LEADERS Lord-Castellant (120) Knight-Heraldor (100) Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (560) - General - Command Trait : Single-minded Fury - Celestine Hammer - Artefact : Stormrage Blade - Mount Trait : Storm-winged UNITS 4 x Desolators (400) 5 x Liberators (100) 5 x Liberators (100) 3 x Aetherwings (50) 3 x Aetherwings (50)

Thanks. Any tip concerning charges ? Let's say I put the 6 man desolators behind an aetherwing screen, I'd need a 9" charge to get the balistas. Should I take an heraldor to be sure to get there ? What about the desolators shooting attack, woudl it be worth taking a hurricanum and Anvil, just for them ?

@PJetski So like, aetherwings on the deploiment line, and key units 9,1 inch away from them, aetherwings trying to create a bubble around those key units, right ?

Hey @RUNCMD, Thanks for your reply. Well, I don't know if I'll go arcanite, mortal or daemon, because I don't really know the differences of gameplay as well as their inherent strenghts and weaknesses. But yeah, I got the opportunity to buy a cheap lot, I got also go the unbuilt models from Silver Tower too, so I was thinking it could be a nice change from my SCE

Cheers mate. Btw, how do you prepare/deploy for when you face a SCE Deepstriking balistas ? I have to face such an opponent soon, and I feel Fulminators would be better agaisnt him.

Hi PJ, Can a desolator list be playable at 1500 ?

The one on the right. More contrast between the main colours.

Errant questor costs 140 points, it's in the FAQ : https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/age_of_sigmar_generals_handbook_errata_en.pdf

July 2020 ?

Has she got special rules ? Cause if not, then she's just a Knight Questor. Oh wait :

Hey guys, Noob question. I've got Vilitch the Curseling and 6 flamers painted plus 3 screamers to be built. I could buy a painted lot for 50 Euros : 1 gaunt summoner 1 gaunt summoner on disk 1 Curseling 1 Ogroid Thaumaturge 30 kairic acolytes Would that be a good start for a Tzeentch army ? I play SCE but I'd like to play an army that is actually good at magic :). I've always liked magic heavy armies. What's competitive and fun nowadays ?

You also got an issue with the Lord Celestant ability. He doesn't take D3 attacks when he charges, but he gets a flat 1 attack

Sword of judgement is good on a hero that can fly, if you don't want to be bothered with placement. Celestant is better ofc for his flurry of attacks. If you want to keep number of drops to a minimum, you always have the option to take a grand convocation or a vanguard hunter + aetherwing battalion. Otherwise do as roark do. Min size slayers, 9 longstrikes, veritant and one last hero.

Well, it's minimum sized Skyborne Slayers + 1 Knight Azyros (Sword judgement), Gavriel Sureheart and two aetherwings unit. I have bad luck with dices in general, so I looked up the easiest way for me to make my charge rolls, hit rolls more reliable. I also designed this list to beat a specific opponent in my GW, who was the Store champion and whose Lord Aquilor I couldn't kill with two heroes during the store tournament because of bad dice rolls. So Activating lore celestant and gavriel CA makes both charges and D6mortal wounds really easy to do, on a flying azyros (only 4 attacks though). Mind you, I'm now the store champion so I have the bonus given by the bracelet which is D3 CP at the start of the battle combined with D3 rerolls. When I challenged the champion, I didn't have the azyros, I was playing at 1250 with an assassin hidden in my Lord celestant from the slayers battalion. My opponent deployed a bit too wide, so I could sneak in the celestant and kill him in one go. If I had to go to 2000 points, I would either go Longstrikes, like @Roark, or go balistas. I'd liek to tinker a bit and find a way to play order with WE Sisters on forest dragon, or some other esoteric units.

Yeah @Lucur you"re right. It's just that I'm tired of playing the Skyborne Slayers at 1500. It's just always the same, I alpha strike turn 1, maximise damage, try to kill his general with my Sword of judgment Azyros and then, do what I can until the end. For now i've got 3 victory in a row in my Gw, but I'd like to change. I was thinking about a Grand Convocation at 1500 : - Stormhost: Celestial Warbringers Lord-Arcanum (160) - General - Command Trait : Portents and Omens - Spell : Stormcaller Lord-Exorcist (120) - Spell : Lighntning Blast Knight-Incantor (140) - Celestial Staves (Artefact) : Staff of Focus - Spell : Chain Lightning Knight-Incantor (140) - Artefact : Hammers of Aurgury - Spell : Thundershock 5 x Protectors (180) - 2 x Starsoul Maces 5 x Liberators (100) - Warhammer & Shield - 1 x Grandhammers 5 x Liberators (100) - Warhammer & Shield - 1 x Grandhammers 3 x Aetherwings (50) Grand Convocation (130) Balewind Vortex (40) Umbral Spellportal (70) Everblaze Comet (100) Celestian Vortex (40) Aethervoid Pendulum (50) But i'd suffer the same problem, not enough wounds and bodies on the table. Would be fun though to go all in! The only problem would be my friend's balistas, his 5 man evocators and retributors. But hey, at least, i'd have killed his general with spells from the other end of the table!

Just for fun, for a totally stupid alpha strike, what would this list be worth ? Knight-Azyros (100) Lord-Relictor (100) - General - Command Trait : Deathly Aura - Artefact : Soulthief - Prayer : Translocation UNITS 20 x Judicators (640) - Boltstorm Crossbows - 4 x Thunderbolt Crossbows 5 x Liberators (100) - Warhammer & Shield - 1 x Grandhammers 9 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (510) TOTAL: 1450/1500 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 0 WOUNDS: 78 LEADERS: 2/4 BATTLELINES: 2 (2+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/2 ARTILLERY: 0/2 ARTEFACTS: 1/1 ALLIES: 0/200 Translocating the Judicators to range, firing all their stuff during hero phase, sniping character with the longstrikes during the hero phase as well, and they all get to do it again during the shooting one. Only problem is, against a player with balistas, those two units are toast by turn 1, unless they're in terrain and he lucks out on his rolls!

You could still use it two times on two different units, One longstrikes and one judicators for ex, for a bigger alpha shot. Depends on how many CP you got and what you want to do with them. @PJetski is the Anvil Longstrike master over here, check out his posts. In one of them, If I recall correctly, he said that if Longstrikes wouldn't be viable anymore, he would use 20 judicators.

So the only thing left in my mind is : Knight Azyros with Ghyrropian gauntlets. Activate CA Herophase, he moves 6 inch, Normal move 12" fly, Run (can't run more than 3 since he'd be too close if your enemies deployed at 24) and here you go. Your azyros is in a perfect spot to make all your incoming shots or attacks of to reroll 1's if needed.

Oh, my bad. I'm such a noob :(. And here I was thinking I discovered something cool!

How about a Templar on Stardrake with the 3"inch lance and Ghyrropian gauntlets (6" pile in). If you go first, Hero phase, teleport him with prayer or totem, activate the CA, he piles in 6", he fights, the targeted unit can't fight back. Ok, that's not very interesting since the lance is made to kill monsters, but hey OH I FORGOT, cavernous jaw bites ; 3" . Against a 10 man unit of SCE, that could be worth it! Then if the units deleted during the shooting phase, he can place himself right next to a monster (general ?) and charge easily and boom. What do you guys think ? Fun ? Cheese ? Worthless ?

And that sucks a lot.

Thanks for your replies earlier guys. Tell me, is there a way to make a working list using the Sisters on Dragon from the WE compendium ? I think their abilities are great fight first and make everyone around 3 fight last (the enemy ofc).

I've got a question lads, how does Cycle of the storm really works ? Yesterday I was in the local GW, the manager was playing against a Stormcast. The manager gets three wounds on a unit of 5 sequitors. The SCE player was about to remove 1 and put a wound on another. I said don't forget your LACD's ability, you'll lose one, but one of the wound won't go to another sequitor, since one of them is used to kill the sequitor, who then is being revived, but then dies again. The manager said that it doesn't work that way, I don't remember exactly what he said. In any case, who's right ? Was the last wound used to kill the sequitor again, or was it transfered to another model ?

@Requizen Thanks for the clarification. It's not what I imagined. What I thought was OP as ******. But still, sometimes, it might be interesting, to capture first an objective.