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It's a sure bet Screamers will suck lesss now - which is nice. Not really thrilled for a flying Magister (I really,really wanted a Curseling I like the old sculpt but hate Finecast so much) but he does remind me of Cobra Commander from that old GI Joe cartoon movie. Which is always a plus in my book (not that horrible movie but good old Cobra Commander/Chris Latta).

This sucks - such a sympathetic guy and the vids with him were great. Best of luck to him but it's sad to see him go.

As a T player, I fully agree. A cool hero like a Curseling in plastic would be awesome but we got enough kits, especially with StD units now (although we got the worst synergy). KO could use more kits afaik, but lizardmen (and skaven) would deserve proper revamps the most now (next to Aelves and regular humans -it‘s unfortunate that CoS didn‘t come with new kits...)

I think Screamers deserve a total rework even more than Flamers. They suck so hard right now they don't even get used in fluffy lists anymore.

Chosen are bigger than Chaos Warriors. Chosen will likely have lots of trims on their armor, the chaos warriors have almost none. I guess eventual Chosen minis will look like a mix between Varanguard and Chaos Warriors in design. Blood Warriors are indeed a good starting point. Varanguard bits (it was easy to get them for a while) are good but even if you convert them, they're HUGE on foot - think Slaughterpriest-sized. That's Chaos Lord material, not Chosen material. Im think using BW as the base will be your best bet here for the time being. Just my thoughts. Edit: Does anyone have some good ideas for a Tzeentch list or as allied units in DoT? Mark of Tzeentch feels like the red-headed stepchild (no offense to redheads, I like em).

If he can also summon a unit of daemons for free, running two Gaunts might be quite amazing. Would also give Kairics a place to shine as they'd be the token battleline units in many lists. That said, here are my wishes/hopes: New plastic Curseling and/or Fatemaster Better rules for Kairic Acolytes - they are pretty damn bad, at least in my games they are A fraction more durability - yeah, every army needs a weakness but most of our stuff gets overrun too easily. I hope there will be something nice for Tzeentch Chaos Warriors, so that we have a decent tank option. Maybe a cool dedicated Warrior unit like Tzeentch Forsaken or something. Not 20 pages of FAQ needed after the release What I expect: Endless Spells - if any army should have their own, it's Tzeentch. Some OP terrain that will be nerfed back to uselessness (like one extra spell per round at first, then later on will give +1 to banning enemy spells or something :D) Enlightened getting nerfed Tzaangors losing mixing weapons Gaunt Summoner more like the one on disc 50 pages of FAQs so that new shiny battletome will be useless. I'm a sunshine, I know!

Then they should get their priorities right - no other single unit sold as much as Chaos Warriors in WHFB. If Chaos got a dedicated multipart release, it would've sold like mad too. Easily outdoing many other popular kits. I think them being hulking brutes is part of their charm. Nobody asked for Fish-Aleves or SCE (I don't mind them at all, just saying), but people asked for new CWs since AoS first dropped. This is a case where company interests ($$$) and fan interests 100% overlap. So I'm quite baffled. But I'll try to see the good in it - perhaps a good plastic Chosen kit will come in the near future and those guys will be as big as CWs should be according to fluff. But the major gripe I have is this: I like the whole "two sides of a medal" thing - like when loyalists and traitors were the same size or when now SCE and CW would've been the same size. It might just be my weird mind but it feels so much more epic if two "evenly matched" warriors face off. I know, it's not exactly realistic and doesn't have to do all that much with height anyways but still - it's a beautiful picture.

Can we even use said Endless Spell though? I'll add some Warriors to my army but purely because I like them. I also bought Varanguard as I'm into super-buff warriors but I won't delude myself into thinking that more enlightened would've been a better choice.

Not fully on-topic but: Even normal Chaos Warriors are "superhumans" though. At least they used to be. When their armor became part of their body (it's not really removable and "heals"), their normal strength and size were remade as well. See the old Champions of Chaos book for an example (I started in 5th ed). I'm fine with them being less than what they used to be ...but why they change that is beyond me (it also lessens the reason to become a worshipper of Chaos when you can be a just as great if you serve Sigmar). And meanwhile Varanguard are so gigantic they make SCE look like shrimps that they're almost too big. Oh well...

Oh and it seems like StD don't have much going for in a Tzeentch list overall. A few exceptions here and there but still..

Apparently Battletome DoT and KO are gone from the store - I guess this is a good sign that we'll very soon get a new BT. I do hope they won't have to change so much after they release it.... Oh and a Curseling and/or Fatemaster. We could use some cool armored heroes. Hell, the Curseling could look the same just make him in plastic as Finecast sucks big time and I never got a metal one.

A bit off-topic but damn, the new Chaos Warriors are still shorter than Blood Warriors or Stormcast. Some of their details seem to be tiny - either they can print even smaller now or they scaled them down to fit in with the old Warriors - which would suggest no new kit. And there's my rumour theory!

It is a just cause!

Might not be what you initially though of but strongly drybrushing their armor in a dark metallic and then using a shade like nuln oil or a contrast paint (like black templar) can make for a decent, almost-black but metallic look that suits Chaos Warriors exceptionally well. And it's quicker than both regular painting and contrast as the pooling is less of a problem here than on regular tones. Plus you could give a very light second drybrush with a lighter metallic tone to get a pretty good result and that would take an extra minute per figure for a truly superior result. Black needs a bit of love with a regular paintjob - it's IMO one of the easiest colors if you're good at edge highlights (as that is like 80 percent of the work unless you go for a golden demon), less so if not (as most of it should stay black, else it'll look grey, dark blue or dark green) and I don't think the armor has enough details to be a good candidate for contrast black. Hope this helps a bit and good luck! edit: if you go for a wash or contrast, get the respective medium as it makes it usually try better on the flat surfaces/panels/shields etc.

Personally I also like simple models on foot most for my heroes - I also love huge creatures but I rather use those as monsters or greater daemons or something.

OMG, finally... bought the Varanguard years ago to field them with my Tzeentch army. goooooood!

One of the guys in our group rages because of the destiny dice already (in his defense, he had to endure some really lucky rolls from me even before the DD came into play), this would definitely give him a heartattack.

Y'know, it would be interesting (in another thread) to see if people could come up with rules that made the gameplay much better than it is. I guess speeding up certain phases would make it more fun but I'm no game designer.

Perhaps they're keeping the old stuff in there (like the Chosen/old warriors) at the start so that those plastic/resin kits get sold before they bring out new Chosen/mp warriors. Which would really ****** potential customers off. That would just make some guys bitter. Maybe there's a better reason for it and Chosen will get an upgrade and become more integrable into mono-god lists, y'know as in chosen by their patron. Still, a trickling release for STD units that won't have overlap (as in monopose and new multi-part warriors) is a weird decision. Unless the new Chosen would be so much cooler nobody would ever buy regular Warriors again.

Keeping old Chosen (when they could easily make new ones by ripping off their own Varanguard kit, GW is into copy/paste these days anyways) and not doing a new multipart kit for Warriors (like they (and I before them) said - the most iconic Warhammer Fantasy unit) seems kinda dumb to me to be honest. But whatever, I'm fine with it as these will be good enough for conversions. Still a dubious move when this army sold me more than a few others combined back in WHFB days and would now sell more than fringe group factions like Fyreslayers or Idoneth Deepkin.... I don't get it but perhaps they know something we don't or maybe most heavily armored Chaos warrior fans went on to collect Khorne and Nurgle and won't bother switching now. There's gotta be some reason as they're not exactly allergic to money.

Well, having bought the Fimir warriors before they were gone, I can only say that the mold wasn't too shabby, so that didn't seem to have played into it. Or I got lucky as I got a great cast. That said, I pretty much only had great casts from Forgeworld so far. Being quite big on the whole "******" look of the Death Korps (yeah, I know they're not really ****** and with my nickname one shouldn't go there anyways, but the nickname is from one of my favorite CDs (by an American band) I ordered a HUGE amount of them back when they were new. I only checked the casts to see if they were good and I wouldn't say the Fimir are any worse than prime DKOK. Which reminds me that I should really sell them as I'll never get around to painting them anyways.

Wow, what a burn! Nice points about the SCE, I learned something new. I think the whole female discussion is really only down to execution. If they do it well, nobody will complain unless it's really not fitting in any way or shape. No concrete example springs to mind but let's say an army gets some high-born hero class that is only available to the first-born sons or something. Personally I identify more with male models as I'm a guy but it would only help the hobby as a whole if more women got involved. They should be a bit braver and play with gender when Slaaneshi Mortals come around. That's like the perfect place to add all that stuff in nowadays, where where on social media a loud few are so confused as to what they are One thing that baffles me is how few are fans of Sister's of Battle faces - I saw a few attractive ones in there (often with huge scars, that's even cooler IMO) and at this scale they do have to exagerrate certain features. Most noses e.g. are too small on minis. A nose can be almost as wide as mouth, especially when screaming. And a broad-nosed black Sororita gets flak now because her nose a bit too wide. Yeah, probably they think it's racist, I disagree on that. Or would it be racist if they gave some white guy a bump on his nose, as we have them most often? And I think everyone knows that there are black people with tiny noses, whites without bumps and so on and on. No wonder everyone in Hollywood gets a nosejob.

AoS's background has a long, long way to go before its realms will feel like a truly good setting IMO, but hopefully it'll get there - right now we can only judge it by standards of similar or related settings and in there an overabundance of females would feel "off". Anyways, totally agreed about the female quota - a female character is cool if done right; e.g. Ripley or Sarah Connor (funny how old examples from the 80s are so much superior to the new brand of "super-OP-mega-female chars). If not, it feels tacky and the creators will whine about sexist man-pigs not being open enough to give them a chance. Which is simply an excuse. It's really simple: all they need to do is make/write them good. The Avengers scene with all females was cringe-worthy. That Bat-Woman thing from the show was pathetic ("suit's gonna be perfect when it fits a woman!"), Ripley was awesome, despite some cheesy stuff and lines ("get away from her, you b...!" "mommy!"). All that's needed are a few things: good characters, a plausible explanation and not a single guy (except for idiots) would ever dream of complaining about a female figure in a work of fiction or otherwise. In the case of Stormcast Eternals it's kinda unusual to see many women, as "realistically" (based on humanity's history, even if that doesn't really apply in fantasy), not many females would become legendary warriors that get reborn as SCEs but whatever. I feel the female characters work much better in more rag-tag units like barbarians or an all-female force but it doesn't bother me yet in Warhammer. Could be done more organically but it's kinda difficult here as well to be fair. Either way, long story short: get good writers and lots of things will work that might feel tacky otherwise. Especially when I look at Hollywood that advise is much-needed: so few movies nowadays have decent scripts, feels like a lost art.

No idea what politics have to do with mini sizing and why Trump's name gets thrown around - it's kinda insane to blame the man for everything even if you don't like him or agree with his politics. I'm not blaming my president for unrelated problems either and he was out of all our candidates the one whose politics I least agree(d) with - but so what... Either way, subtract the hight of the bases and some minis fall into 28mm scale. It doesn't really matter though. Yes, nowadays most GW stuff is too big for 28mm, some less so some more so because they're supposed to be huge. That often recited heroic 28mm is an excuse to simply be creative with the scale and proportions.

Hmmm, those small ruins in the bell tower set look new. Not sure they're in the starter box.