Kaleb Daark Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'll take the measurements of mine and post them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 ok, scrub that! I've found the post in my army thread and shows the size quite well against the stonehorn bodied warshrine conversion. The squares are 10mm so.. 100 wide by 140 - 160ish? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ydarg Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Here’s a mammoth I converted out of a plastic toy - Schleich if I recall. It’s on a 170mm Kromlech base. Cost about $30 USD to build, with a generous bits box to dip into. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popisdead Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 4/5/2017 at 10:06 PM, kzimm72 said: Hey Guys, was wondering what peoples thoughts on the Chaos War Mammoth. My thoughts are: I've always wanted one and wish I had the money, time and resources to use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Might I recommend this beaut, though it is £174 from mierce minis, probably the closest to FW’s which still stands as one of my favourite minis of theirs and gutted I missed out. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 With the new Slaves to Darkness tome, is it time to bring out the War Mammoths? Or should I just run Skarbrand instead? I see ups and downs to both, if I had to pick one that is. Maybe use both in a Khorne army?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 rule of cool says hefferlumps. rule of winning says the angry red amnesiac demon who's dad was too stupid to realise that chicken face had pulled his pants down. I used both in a khorne army.. most humorous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Awesome! both then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 21 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said: With the new Slaves to Darkness tome, is it time to bring out the War Mammoths? Or should I just run Skarbrand instead? I see ups and downs to both, if I had to pick one that is. Maybe use both in a Khorne army?!?! The mammoth works great in S2D with a Khorne Mark. It looks pretty dope too IMG_8527.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Ooh that is nice! And pretty fierce. Actually much scarier than the old FW one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneedlewoods Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 4/6/2017 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb Daark said: The only thing I can moan about is that in fantasy as was, they could be marked, now they can't, but they are great fun. Well the AOS App says it still can be marked 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sneedlewoods said: Well the AOS App says it still can be marked 🤔 as of AoS2 they could be marked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Haha I remember when you were pleading for it most days Kaleb. Someone heard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 My Mammoth overkilled Alarielle by two recently (Khorne Mark and the General was close) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCar09 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I think is usable on slavess to darkness lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, JCar09 said: I think is usable on slavess to darkness lists. It‘s been an absolute Star in every game I used it in so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCar09 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: It‘s been an absolute Star in every game I used it in so far I have one and I am thinking of playing it in slaves to darkness shortly. Have you played it competitively? With what kind of list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The new base size is so huge, like a sheet of standard printer paper huge , I was doubtful of how great the mammoth would be on some tables now, easily blocked by gravetide or palisade spells. But no doubt it’s a big stompy crushinator if it can get there and be buffed by a bloodstoker and Chaos lord to attack twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themortalgod Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) For those asking, the official base size printed in the base size reference from GW is 280mm x 210mm which is a VERY big base. GW does NOT make bases that big. For my mammoth I had the base custom cut out of wood. It cost me about $5. I have a blog post on how I built the base for mine which may be helpful. Dark Fantastic mills also sells a 3D printed 280mm which I didn't discover until after I built mine. It won't be as strong as wood but features the GW style slanted edge which a wood cut doesn't. That said, my thoughts on playing it: The model is huge, impractically huge for most games. If you regularly play on a board that has very little terrain on it, he will be fine but if you are on a more filled board (what the game is designed for), the mammoth will be very severely limited in where he can go. It is not like there are rules for him to smash through walls, he has to CLIMB them which means on a huge model with a relatively low movement speed he is more or less stuck to very limited locations. This becomes even more of a problem in regards to the fact that when he dies there is a 50/50 chance that he will fall on your stuff which means you kind of want him away from your army doing his own thing. Some have mentioned using Sayl or other teleport abilities to move him around the battlefield but I have found in practice that this is a lot easier said than done. Finding a spot to drop down a 280x210mm base that that has to be 9" away from enemy models is not an easy thing in most games. On top of that there are some practicality issues of using him that I never even considered until I bought him. He is very big, very heavy, and since he is resin, he is very fragile. Transporting him to and from games is not an easy task. Personally, I only use mine at games at home so he can either be in my display cabinet or on the table, no reason to ever try to transport him in a car. That said war mammoths are awesome and even though he doesn't see much play, mine always draws a lot of attention on the shelf and I love looking at him. He is the heart and soul of my collection. Side note: It really bothers me that that kit specially has a chaos lord on a big throne riding the mammoth, but the rules for the mammoth don't actually take that lord into account for anything. It as if the lord isn't even there. Game Performance: For, in game performance, I have mixed feelings, aside from the mobility issues mentioned above, the mammoth isn't great. 22 wounds is sweet but he isn't as tanky as other options. For example, my Nurgle Daemon prince with her Ethereal Amulet, Despoilers Save, and self healing tends to take a lot more punches for less points. This exasperates when you consider that massive base size making it very easy for your opponent to get a big surround on the mammoth so it tends to have a lot more punches swinging at it than a smaller tank like the aforementioned DP. He can plug a big hole, but he isn't as hard to move as he looks like he should be. Damage output, is ok, but isn't overly powerful, if you simulate one with no other buffs you get the following. Which is respectable but nothing to write home about on a 320pt model. Also, due to how its tusks work, the mammoth benefits much less than other things from buffs as a big chunk of its damage comes from an attack that makes neither a hit roll or a wound roll. (Though to be fair it is also punished less by debuffs) In terms of getting a mammoth for yourself: Getting a legit mammoth is very difficult. They sometimes pop up on Ebay, expect to pay in the $1000 USD range at this point. alternatively, there are lots of recasters out there selling them for about $200 if this is something you are ok with. Alternatively, some have mentioned the Mierce mammoth, which is also very expensive and much smaller than the FW mammoth. The nice bit, though, is that they recently released a new version of him with the howdah on the back. (presumably because they specifically want to sell him to AoS players). Here is a picture of one below on the correct base size. I also included a picture of mine on the same size base. Note how the FW one fills out the base fairly well, where as for the Mierce one, the foot print of the mammoth is much smaller. Edited March 2, 2020 by themortalgod 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) About the movement issues: I usually play with a lot of terrain. If it hits Two terrain pieces we play it out as if it only has to climb those once since the base would already be at that height. Usually I end up losing about 4“ of movement which isn‘t too tragic. I‘ve played the Mammoth in two ways so far (not competetive): - Slaanesh: I made it fight twice and rolled about average which resulted in stomping 36 damage into Ardboys and making the rest of them flee. - Khorne: It oneshot Alarielle. It oneshot a Spirit of Durthu (different game) and afterwards was killed by Alarielle‘s shooting after two phases of Sylvaneth focus fire. all of the times I had my General around to get the buff bonus and it only died once. I am pretty happy with it and I guess it will be a lot stronger if I buff it with daemonic Power etc. About the price: mierce often has a 50% sale or a 2 Monsters for the price of one. So if you find a friend you can split the costs (that‘s the way I did it). I also bought the one without Howdah since the crew has such low stats that you can actually ignore them - I usually call the shooting attack „shaking ground“ transport: was never an issue, I have a magnetic transport bag and it fits nicely. Edit: I need to add: The Mammoth is SO much fun to play. You are happy if it crushes something and your opponent cheers if it goes down The one image was taken a turn before it was shot down. Edited March 16, 2020 by JackStreicher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoganStyle Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I am hoping to take mine out for a spin this weekend vs Ironjawz and Gloomspite, but the gaming day may be cancelled now. I used the Dark Fantastic Mills base for mine 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightbox Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 You guys are really making me want to buy a mierce mammoth now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmaffers Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3D printed this and just finished painting today. Design is free on thingiverse. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4141336 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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