Soulsmith Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I can support the idea behind what Payce is going for. I may try and get my hands on the free stormcast and shave the whole body down and sculpt a tabard to make my own Johanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKick Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Awesome stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarkazim Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Love what you're doing here Payce!!! If you're not opposed to the crossover, Privateer Press has bitz service. Might be worth a look for shields and heads to get you some more variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 A few days of some serious overtime at work has sadly hampered my progress more than I would have liked. Tonight, however, I got a couple of painting hours in. Here's were we currently stand: The white looks smoother on the actual models, promise. The gold is only the first layer, doing a second one tomorrow before wash and highlights. I'm pretty pleased with the overall look, with the blonde hair and pale skin I should have sufficient bright spots on them to make the black armour not look too bland and unfinished. Hopefully, they'll be done over the weekend. Oh, and if you wonder about the messy paint jobs, I kind of do that. Once all the detail work is done, black will neaten up and cover it nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimnaud Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 We don't mind at all @Payce. Focus on quality! Finish when you can. Mid february for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 OK, that took a while. Kid fell ill, overtime at work, you know the drill. Here, have some vengeful virgins! They took literally (not literally) forever to finish, since I was usually limited to 1-2 hours painting per night, usually broken up every 20 or so minutes by just... life things. But I got them done, and even mostly on schedule (if I finish a Dracoth and five Judicators by next Sunday, I'll be ahead of schedule). Speaking of Dracoths, have a WIP shot of that one as well. It should come as a surprise to no one that the'll be riding Diablo (insert crude jokes). And now, back to the painting board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Looking awesome dude! Totally makes me rethink stormcast, I'm tempted to try and make an angel force, all no-faced hoods, and sculpted wings for the flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimnaud Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I had my doubts about the bases, but the end result looks AWESOME, ya hear me meow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alasdair Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Wonderful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Soulsmith said: Looking awesome dude! Totally makes me rethink stormcast, I'm tempted to try and make an angel force, all no-faced hoods, and sculpted wings for the flyers. I'll be doing something similar on my Celestant-Prime eventually, base it off of Auriel from the same franchise (I might even actually give that particular models "boob plate" and heels): 41 minutes ago, Grimnaud said: I had my doubts about the bases, but the end result looks AWESOME, ya hear me meow! Valhallan Blizzard is a Godsend. Absolutely amaing to work with. The days of carefully measuring sodium, glue, water and white pigment are GONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SteveJames Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Looks like a really cool idea Payce, looking forwards to seeing the finished army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Check out the new sisters of silence, they would make an excellent base for auriel, a bit more delicate looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Soulsmith said: Check out the new sisters of silence, they would make an excellent base for auriel, a bit more delicate looking. I'm actually using those as Chosen for my Slaanesh army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'm actually using those as Chosen for my Slaanesh army. [emoji3]Well hopefully you have a spare [emoji6] also, the black eyes are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Soulsmith said: Well hopefully you have a spare also, the black eyes are awesome. I suck at painting eyes (faces in general, truth be told), so I cheated a little; I simply painted the entire eye slit with Stegadon Scale Green, then gave the entire area a thin wash of Nuln Oil. I mean, girls were makeup, right? Right? That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I suck at painting eyes (faces in general, truth be told), so I cheated a little; I simply painted the entire eye slit with Stegadon Scale Green, then gave the entire area a thin wash of Nuln Oil. I mean, girls were makeup, right? Right? That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.That's fair enough. I have an old fine brush with most the bristles gone, and I go in at the eye at the angle I want it to be looking. Also makes for a good armour scratch brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeonotakist Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Well, maybe I am too picky but the final picture really looks concerning... Main problem is not the tit which I totally agree not necessary, but the width of shoulder and waist. Female have different skeleton compare with man and their shoulder shoulders have same width as their hips. However man is totally different. Just by looking at the picture from Blizzard female crusader you can easily find this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Get yourself a needle or drawing pin, and put a drop of block on the end. Instant pupils! That, or collect Death. These look awesome by the way, a whole cohort of them will be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPT Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Aeonotakist said: Well, maybe I am too picky but the final picture really looks concerning... Main problem is not the tit which I totally agree not necessary, but the width of shoulder and waist. Female have different skeleton compare with man and their shoulder shoulders have same width as their hips. However man is totally different. Just by looking at the picture from Blizzard female crusader you can easily find this point. So I thought about this while undergoing a remarkably similar process to the OP for my Silver Tower Knight-Questor - here's a pic. As far as I can tell the conversion process we used was exactly the same, even down to buying heroic-scale heads from the same place! The thing is: Stormcast heads are absolutely tiny relative to their bodies, absurdly so. But you don't really notice because they don't look fully human until you remove the helmet. Their bodies (whether male or female) would have to be pin-headed lumps of meat to fill out that armour in a normal fashion. I suppose you could say that Sigmar altered and mutated them like space marines, but that doesn't really fit the descriptions in the books. Stormcast that remove their helmets look surprisingly normal, even sometimes youthful. It makes much more sense to imagine that Sigmarite armour is a lot bigger than the wearer, and works because, well, it's magic armour. That way the head provides a sense of scale for the body inside, at which point it's obvious that you'd never be able to tell male/female characteristics from the outside - particularly shoulders, hips and hands, which is what we're talking about here. This also means that when a Stormcast Eternal is fully-armoured, you can't tell whether they're male or female. This is, I think, thematically vital - they're supposed to be imposing, inhuman and (I'd argue) androgynous until the helmet comes off. The cool thing about seeing it this way is it allows you to include female characters in your Stormcast army without needing to do a conversion on every single one. Just my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeonotakist Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 3 hours ago, CJPT said: So I thought about this while undergoing a remarkably similar process to the OP for my Silver Tower Knight-Questor - here's a pic. As far as I can tell the conversion process we used was exactly the same, even down to buying heroic-scale heads from the same place! The thing is: Stormcast heads are absolutely tiny relative to their bodies, absurdly so. But you don't really notice because they don't look fully human until you remove the helmet. Their bodies (whether male or female) would have to be pin-headed lumps of meat to fill out that armour in a normal fashion. I suppose you could say that Sigmar altered and mutated them like space marines, but that doesn't really fit the descriptions in the books. Stormcast that remove their helmets look surprisingly normal, even sometimes youthful. It makes much more sense to imagine that Sigmarite armour is a lot bigger than the wearer, and works because, well, it's magic armour. That way the head provides a sense of scale for the body inside, at which point it's obvious that you'd never be able to tell male/female characteristics from the outside - particularly shoulders, hips and hands, which is what we're talking about here. This also means that when a Stormcast Eternal is fully-armoured, you can't tell whether they're male or female. This is, I think, thematically vital - they're supposed to be imposing, inhuman and (I'd argue) androgynous until the helmet comes off. The cool thing about seeing it this way is it allows you to include female characters in your Stormcast army without needing to do a conversion on every single one. Just my 2c. That's a good point, but actually I think the problem should be the helm is too small on normal stormcast, rather the armor too big. Take a look at the only official head for SE that is Errant-Questor, his head is quite OK on the body but impossible to fit in a normal helmet. But I agree that in AOS the background is so flexibile that I can have a female SE with four arms and find a fluff foe that. And please don't misunderstand what I want to say. it's not I don't like female SE, but I am also a big fan of female D3 crusader. It just doesn't show the aesthetic of this character in normal SE bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 I think @CJPT and I are of fairly similar mindset regarding the relationship between armour and anatomy. Truth be told, if you're going to look that closely into physical dimensions in this game, your average Witch Aelf is six foot four and has Truckasaurus hands. Lithe and agile, indeed! I wasn't planning to do anything tonight, but then I did after all, and this happened: Lord-Celestant on foot, which will be my general. Her foot is raised like that because I cut off and filed away the rock, to make room for... most likely a ghoul or zombie. Something decapitated. She'll be painted sometime next week. For now, work continues on the Dracoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Finally an update! I blame work. And halloween. And stuff. Onto the first Judicators, and the foot-Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 That is fantastic, can't wait to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Wow! I think I'd skimmed this thread when you first started it and thought "oh god third party headswaps, nothing polite to say here", but am now massively embarrassed I'd written it off. The models come together incredibly when painted, the colour scheme is gorgeous and the flails work wonderfully. The dracoth rider is glorious and I can't wait to see the celestant on foot with paint on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimnaud Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Are they gonna be ready for some practice games any time soon Payce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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