Grimnaud

Ahh. It makes more sense now. Thanks.

Now, I see quite a few people here talking up the Royal Family batallion. And I need some help understanding why. The batallion costs a hundred and fifty point, consists of at least a GK on Terrorgheist or Zombie dragon, and at least two GK's on foot (neither of these requirements are bolded, so they're refering to the specific unit, not a general keyword). As near as I can tell the optimal start would be three GK's on foot, as that wouls allow you to spend six CP's. That will cost you 970 points for the batallion, GKoTG, and 3 GK's on foot. Now the first turn you'll use the Royal Family ability and summon another Ghoul King. According to the erreta that's a once per game ability. That nets you 140 points for free. And you'll use the second commandpoint on the GKoTG's ability, and lets assume that he has Majestic Horror as well, letting him summon in 320 points worth of units with his once per game ability. Over the next four turns you'll use all four GK's on foots once per game abilities to summon in a total of 400 points worth of Ghouls. So in total, the 970 points you spent gives you 860 points of summoning. Fair enough. But 860 points of what? Four units of ten ghouls? The last one will probably be more or less useless, coming in from an edge at turn 5. The Ghoul King you can summon is nice, but at that point you already have three of them, so he won't be able to cast any magic, or grant rerolls to anything that doesn't already have rerolls. Am I missing something here?

So what would people do to leverage FEC's strengths as much as possible? At some point next year I'm looking at revisiting my FEC after a long hiatus, and treating them to some new paintjobs, flashy convgersions, and all around TLC. It's no big surprise that the flesh eaters have been left behind in the dust, but I'm pretty sure that there are still some fun middle of the pack lists hiding in there. My inital plan was to paint up an abbatoir list, but after seeing how quickly they got taken apart by DOK in a friendly game it was back to the drawingboard. So the current plan is to paint up this list: Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts- Delusion: Crusading ArmyLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (400)- General- Trait: Magestic Horror - Artefact: The Grim Garland Varghulf Courtier (160)- Artefact: Blood River Chalice Varghulf Courtier (160)Crypt Ghast Courtier (80)Battleline30 x Crypt Ghouls (300)20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)Units6 x Crypt Horrors (320)BattalionsGhoul Patrol (180)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 130 With the changes to ghoul patrol (MAY rather than must deploy of table, and no max to the GP-additional ghouls), it is as far as I can see the best batallion FEC has access to. Three units of Ghouls also frees up the general spot for a King, which lets me put him on a terrorgheist and give him Majestic Horror for 320 free points at the top of one (before anyone blows him out of the water). Since the Flayer/Horror units I summon will 9 times out of 10 be outside the Kings bubble I'll probably go with flayers, but depending on how much room I'll have in the carry case, I might have some extra Horrors just in case. Terrorgheist, so the Grim Garland is the natural choice for the first artefact. Now I'm not convinced that the unit of 6 Horrors is the optimal choice, especially with potential realm artefacts available for a second King on Terrorgheist/Zombie Dragon. But they were a staple in all my old lists, so I'm giving them a try. And since I at that point have both Ghouls, Horrors, and Flayers in my list, paying the extra 20 points for Varghulfs over Haunter/Infernal Courtiers seemed to make sense. The downside is that at this point the list leans heavily into board controll, which is not the most entertaining way to play the game. But getting rid of the Ghoul Patrol units will take a significant amount of work. With three courtiers bringing back slain ghouls, while the batallion keeps increasing the unit size those units will increase by 15 d6 ghouls in total, with an average of 15 ghouls returned each turn. They probably won't do much damage back, but the little buggers sure can take a punch. So those are my two cents. What are everyone elses thoughts on making FEC more competative?

Between the Necromunda and Shadespire videos, plus pictures from Nova they've revealed at least four rumour engine pictures. The tentacle, bone shrine, and grenades for Necromunda, and the cloak is the one the Orruk from Shadespire is wearing.

I might have to use that option @Thomas Lyons mentioned in Warhammer Weekly that the rumour engine pick has obviously been photoshopped, so for all we know, the hooks might even be attached to flesh. Just to open up even more options for what we might be looking at. Could fit in with some new Skaven monster

Damn Dez! With all those bitz I'm starting to question the "Budget" part of your title Unless your bitzbox is absolutely massive! Great work though!

Scenery and basing is the name of the game. Todays happy little accident was that the additional support from the rock and cursed-company orc actually makes Nagash less wobbly.

Looking good! Reducing the backlog is a good feeling Have you seen the TK army available on Finn though? Just incase you want to stock up some more

I like that thinking! A possible compromise might be to just dirty up the most exposed areas, like knees, sleeves, bottom of pants legs, and so on, while keeping the colours nice and fresh on the rest. Look forward to seeing more updates!

Looking good! I wouldn't keep the clothes too neat if I were you though. Ghouls aren't know to be the snappiest dressers

If you did all that in two weeks I can only say great job! Welcome to the forum, and keep up the good work!

Do the Flesh-Eater Courts Horrors and Flayers say that they're a battle line unit only if the entire army is composed of flesh-eater units AND the general's a Haunter/ Infernal Courtier? I'm having trouble making out the entire requirement.

Hmmh. Those top ones look more like ghouls than elves. Would be nice to get sone more FEC units, but I doubt that GW would release something new so soon after the book.

I managed to finish the last highlights and eyes on my Seraphon army. Barely got started on the bases, but it's looking really good for getting them all done during this weekend I'm off to the pub! Cheers!

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