Soup Dragon Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm starting a Death army for a local Path to Glory Campaign. I like the idea of Vampire Lord on Abyssal Terror, but of course there is no currently available model for it. So 2 questions: 1. What cool conversions have people seen/done using currently available models? 2. What base size should it go on? Many thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deynon Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 a Mortarch, the abyssal dread I think it's perfect about the size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, deynon said: a Mortarch, the abyssal dread I think it's perfect about the size No that's waaay too big. The mortarch's are riding a dread Abyssal not a Abyssal terror. Honestly what I did I got my black knight horse stuck some varghiests wings on it along with the vampire lord from the zombie dragon box. Remember fluff wise vampire lords design them to suit their own needs. They can come in almost any form but they are normally smaller than a dread abyssal. I honestly don't know of a cheaper way to do it or perhaps you can kit base the zombie dragon kit to make something you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deynon Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 an abyssal terror is big to begin woth, it should be the size of a manticora to start with considering it's bg. Moreover even if you take the old model and compare to the new ones in scale the dread abyssal is the scale reoresentation. He asked what you can use as substitute, beh, that it is. Black knight horse with wings? tzk, that it is another mount completely, the flying nightmare, it's way too snall , it's like a pegasus, and even that try to compare the Morathy pegasus with the bretonnia's onesand you see the monstruous different size. You say dread abyssal is too big and then you call the zombie dagon that is way bigger? Anyway up to you, but if you want to create something easy to hide, not masl it as a modification or something like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, deynon said: an abyssal terror is big to begin woth, it should be the size of a manticora to start with considering it's bg. Moreover even if you take the old model and compare to the new ones in scale the dread abyssal is the scale reoresentation. He asked what you can use as substitute, beh, that it is. Black knight horse with wings? tzk, that it is another mount completely, the flying nightmare, it's way too snall , it's like a pegasus, and even that try to compare the Morathy pegasus with the bretonnia's onesand you see the monstruous different size. You say dread abyssal is too big and then you call the zombie dagon that is way bigger? Anyway up to you, but if you want to create something easy to hide, not masl it as a modification or something like it I am not saying to use the whole zombie dragon kit someone used bits from the kit and converted a cool looking flying bone monster. Still just do what you want OP asked several in my store how to go about doing one and they simply recommend doing the black knight as I said fluff wise they are fit for purpose and visually are designed by how the vampire wishes it to look. Still if there is any model that should get a new kit is that one because overall they are the best vampire lord IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead4Life Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 THis is what I'm using for my Abyssal Terror. It's a D&D Attack Wing Red Dracolich. There is also a White Dracolich that costs twice as much for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 It's important to note that this profile didn't make it out of the compendium. I wouldn't want to count on it sticking around in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 3 hours ago, ElectricPaladin said: It's important to note that this profile didn't make it out of the compendium. I wouldn't want to count on it sticking around in the long run. Yeah.. still though I do feel overall it's one of the best generic general's for Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson834 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm currently working on one I'm using the dread abyssal and the VP lord from the zombie dragon and wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Dragon Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 In general in AoS Monsters seem to have 11+ wounds. Monstrous cavalry have 5-6 wounds. The Abyssal terror comes between them with 8 wounds. So should be about same size as Lord Celestant on Dracoth (7 wounds) or Bastiladon (8 wounds). But I just don't seem to be able to find a suitable model that size that's readily available. Anyone have any inspiration for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I know this is an older thread.. but do you think it's acceptable to use the VLoZD model as a VLoAT? As long as the correct warscroll is.. would that work? Sure the size be a bit big.. but not by a significant amount of size. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 A friend of mine (who loves the filth) also wants to take an abyssal terror but can't find a model to convert for it. I've suggested the old Archaon on horseback model. It a lovely mini and, I think, quite a bit bigger than a regular horse. Stick some suitably leathery wings on it and you're halfway there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoking Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I'm not sure how big this model is but I was going to see if I could do something with thw Dweller in the Dark Hobbit model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ26 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Imo a VLoAT should be the size of other 8 wound mounted heroes. Dread abyssal is way to big! It should be the size of a lord celestant on dracoth or Lord of khorne on Juggernaut. Or even mournfang cavalry. Im currently taking celestant on dracoth and kit bashing flayers wings on the dracoth and vampire head and arms on celestant. Saw it on Google images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorfate Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I would use a pegasus model and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 16 hours ago, discoking said: I'm not sure how big this model is but I was going to see if I could do something with thw Dweller in the Dark Hobbit model. I REALLY like this. I might have to try the conversion, usefulness of a vamp on abyssal horror be damned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 22 hours ago, ElectricPaladin said: I REALLY like this. I might have to try the conversion, usefulness of a vamp on abyssal horror be damned! That command ability it so good! I was thinking it would be awesome to alpha strike with a u it of 6 vargheists. 24" flying move could be so useful!! Same with some archai but it would be only (lol) 18" flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 May i proposes you what one of my friend did with a conversion of a Mortarch . Is that small enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 51 minutes ago, sal4m4nd3r said: That command ability it so good! I was thinking it would be awesome to alpha strike with a u it of 6 vargheists. 24" flying move could be so useful!! Same with some archai but it would be only (lol) 18" flying Combo with Screaming Skull Catapult to put the target unit at -2 Bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lad Von Carstein Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 On 17/11/2016 at 0:31 AM, discoking said: I'm not sure how big this model is but I was going to see if I could do something with thw Dweller in the Dark Hobbit model. I was thinking about this the other day, this is probably the closest gw model to the old "official" Abyssal Terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 There's one of these for cheap down the local second-hand store. Thoughts on using it as an Abyssal? It's a Nazgul on Fellbeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deynon Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, CoffeeGrunt said: There's one of these for cheap down the local second-hand store. Thoughts on using it as an Abyssal? It's a Nazgul on Fellbeast. It's really a wonderful model, it's ones of the few of the hobbit ones that I always liked (that and the Balrog one) and both are the ones that still I have to buy Q-Q I think it's really an awesome model, maybe a little big, but truly awesome As Abyssla terror models I'm not inclined to use other ones cause I have yet 2 "Melchior on Abyssal terror) and I love that model (as much as I can't see the one with the DS on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidasKiss Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Any follow up on this? I'm at the same decision point and wondering how you all went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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