Bonersplitterz in 3rd Edition

[bonzai]

It's been pretty quiet on this thread. Has anyone had a chance to try out any Incarnate lists. I think I have seen enough to get off the fence and pick one up. This is the first list that I am considering...

 - Army Faction: Orruk Warclans
     - Army Type: Bonesplitterz
     - Subfaction: Drakkfoot
     - Grand Strategy: Waaagh!
     - Triumph: Bloodthirsty
LEADERS
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
     - General
     - Command Traits: Master of Magic
     - Artefacts of Power: Glowin’ Tattooz
     - Spells: Gorkamorka’s War Cry
Wardokk (80)*
     - Spells: Power of the Were-boar
Maniak Weirdnob (100)*
     - Mount Traits: Fast ’Un
     - Spells: Glowy Green Tusks
     - Bonding:  Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur
BATTLELINE
Savage Orruk Morboys (155)*
Savage Orruk Morboys (155)*
Savage Orruks (165)*
     - Savage Stikka
BEHEMOTH
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)*
OTHER
Savage Boarboy Maniaks (290)*
Savage Boarboy Maniaks (290)*
Savage Big Stabbas (80)**
Savage Big Stabbas (80)**
ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS
1 x Chronomantic Cogs (45)
CORE BATTALIONS
 -  *Battle Regiment
 -  **Hunters of the Heartlands
TOTAL POINTS: 1990/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

3 drops. Bonded the Incarnate to the wierdnob since he can keep up with the Incarnate and pigs. If he dies, then I still have my general, and I can feed the Cogs to the Incarnate and heal it. I like that the Wurrgog and Wardokk have non casting things that they can do, so that they won't be completely nerfed by the Incarnate. The the Savage orruks screen the Wurrgog and Wardokk. Big Stabbas back up the Moreboys. Fast hammers run up and hopefully pin something good, and the foot troops bring up the rear and focus on objectives and support. And.... that is about it.

What do you guys think? Have any experience using the Incarnate? How did it do? I am particularly curious about its durability.

[broche]

@bonzai thanks for sharing, I was thinking about Incarnate yesterday but i had trouble demystifying all of the rules. I think any monster bring something to bonesplitter (good rend / move / potential fly), but if you must keep his master alive the fact that our heros are super fragile is kinda bad aha

[Smash]

Are the rules available in the app? I find the warscroll, but not the generic incarnate rules. I have only read the rules for incarnates from leaks and pictures online some time ago. So I guess thats why I have not yet thought to use it, it seems realy good.

[bonzai]

5 hours ago, Smash said:

Are the rules available in the app? I find the warscroll, but not the generic incarnate rules. I have only read the rules for incarnates from leaks and pictures online some time ago. So I guess thats why I have not yet thought to use it, it seems realy good.

Yes, the warscroll is in the ap now. I had to update mine manually, but it is there. 

@Broche: if the master dies, you still control it. This means that if there are no other legal targets then it must charge your unit, but you can mitigate this with positioning. It also means that you can heal it by letting it munch your Endless Spells. I was really torn between the Cogs and a predatory spell. The Cogs are useful in the army itself, but a predatory spell would be a lot easier to position so that you can charge it, devour it, then pile in to the enemy. This could theoretically be used to daisy chain into combats that you otherwise might not have been able to. I was 5 points shy from being able to fit in an Emerald Lifeswarm, which would have been perfect.

Edit: having just said that, I realized that I could potentially fit a Lifeswarm in if I swapped the Savage Orruks for Moreboys. I may actually do that... as the Lifeswarm has the mobility, gives my general a 3rd source of healing, and can return orks on a 3+ to my units. I will be trading in some reach and durability, but I think it might be the better play.

Edited June 1, 2022 by bonzai

[Smash]

6 hours ago, bonzai said:

6 hours ago, bonzai said:

if the master dies, you still control it

It also means that you can heal it by letting it munch your Endless Spells.

Man that is pretty cool, I did not think about the interaction that your wizard then counts as an enemy. But as you mentioned, then you definitely need a predatory endless spell, so you can move it correctly into the map, without misspositioning your wizard. 

[Keilerei]

@bonzai this is my take on an Incarnate List:

Spoiler

Allegiance: Bonesplitterz
- Warclan: Bonegrinz
- Grand Strategy: Sever the Head
- Triumphs: Inspired

Leaders
Savage Big Boss (65)**
- General
- Command Trait: Great Hunter  
Savage Big Boss (65)*
Savage Big Boss (65)*
Wurrgog Prophet (150)**
- Artefact: Glowin' Tattooz  
- Lore of the Savage Beast: Gorkamorka's War Cry
Wurrgog Prophet (150)**
- Artefact: Dokk Juice  
- Lore of the Savage Beast: Power of the Were-boar

Battleline
30 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (435)***
- Reinforced x 2
10 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (145)***
10 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (145)**

Units
4 x Savage Big Stabbas (160)*
- Reinforced x 1
4 x Savage Big Stabbas (160)*
- Reinforced x 1

Behemoths
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)
- Allies

Core Battalions
*Bonesplitterz Rukk
**Warlord
***Hunters of the Heartlands

Total: 1940 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 4 / 4
Allies: 400 / 400
Wounds: 164
Drops: 11

I tried the Krondspine recently with a 1.5k Drakkfoot list and even though it might be scary to have the Incarnate in Wildform, losing it's bond, it gets even punchier just be careful not to have anything friendly within 3" of it, or be the only thing in (run &) charge range.

Going to try it with Bonegrinz, even though the All-out-Attack Aura might be cool I think the "can't retreat" ability is even stronger. Having your opponents frontline pinned with die Krondspine, while being pestered with 150 Arrowboy shots could be the way for me. The Big Block with AoA and 1x Inspired triumph makes even focus fire a bit scary.

Might take the Lifeswarm, for discussed reasons, but I think the almost guaranteed Triumph might be more useful, idk yet.

[bonzai]

Just saw the balance update. Removing the minimum unit size from Spirit of Gorka Morka was a good call. My Rogue Idols will certainly appreciate it. 

[Yargar]

Going to be good news for the Savage Big Stabbas!

[bonzai]

Tweaked my Incarnate list a bit. Basically dropped the emerald lifeswarm and freed up points for a purple sun, as it seems much more usefull in this list. I will miss the mobility of the wierdnob, but boy do I love me some multiple wardokks. Now my battleline counts as triple on objectives and my big stabbas will be brutal against opponents battleline. It's 5 drops now which is a little higher than I tend to go for, but I think that will be a trend in the meta in general.

 - Army Faction: Orruk Warclans
     - Army Type: Bonesplitterz
     - Subfaction: Drakkfoot
     - Grand Strategy: Waaagh!
     - Triumph: Bloodthirsty
LEADERS
Wurrgog Prophet (150)***
     - General
     - Command Traits: Master of Magic
     - Artefacts of Power: Glowin’ Tattooz
     - Spells: Gorkamorka’s War Cry
Wardokk (80)***
     - Spells: Glowy Green Tusks
     - Bonding:  Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur
Wardokk (80)***
     - Spells: Power of the Were-boar
BATTLELINE
Savage Orruk Morboys (155)**
Savage Orruk Morboys (155)**
Savage Orruks (165)**
     - Chompa
BEHEMOTH
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)***
OTHER
Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
Savage Boarboy Maniaks (290)***
Savage Boarboy Maniaks (290)***
ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS
1 x Purple Sun of Shyish (70)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Bounty Hunters
**Expert Conquerors
***Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 1995/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

What do you guys think? Barring any rules changes. This will probably be the list I take to my next event... whenever that is.

[Smash]

10 hours ago, bonzai said:

Tweaked my Incarnate list a bit. Basically dropped the emerald lifeswarm and freed up points for a purple sun, as it seems much more usefull in this list. I will miss the mobility of the wierdnob, but boy do I love me some multiple wardokks. Now my battleline counts as triple on objectives and my big stabbas will be brutal against opponents battleline. It's 5 drops now which is a little higher than I tend to go for, but I think that will be a trend in the meta in general.

 - Army Faction: Orruk Warclans
     - Army Type: Bonesplitterz
     - Subfaction: Drakkfoot
     - Grand Strategy: Waaagh!
     - Triumph: Bloodthirsty
LEADERS
Wurrgog Prophet (150)***
     - General
     - Command Traits: Master of Magic
     - Artefacts of Power: Glowin’ Tattooz
     - Spells: Gorkamorka’s War Cry
Wardokk (80)***
     - Spells: Glowy Green Tusks
     - Bonding:  Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur
Wardokk (80)***
     - Spells: Power of the Were-boar
BATTLELINE
Savage Orruk Morboys (155)**
Savage Orruk Morboys (155)**
Savage Orruks (165)**
     - Chompa
BEHEMOTH
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)***
OTHER
Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
Savage Boarboy Maniaks (290)***
Savage Boarboy Maniaks (290)***
ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS
1 x Purple Sun of Shyish (70)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Bounty Hunters
**Expert Conquerors
***Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 1995/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

What do you guys think? Barring any rules changes. This will probably be the list I take to my next event... whenever that is.

Is it not better to have the reinforced boarboyz maniacs in bounty hunters? More attacks and lower base damage gives more value, and the mobility lets you hit the right targets.  

Edited July 8, 2022 by Smash

[bonzai]

On 7/8/2022 at 6:26 AM, Smash said:

Is it not better to have the reinforced boarboyz maniacs in bounty hunters? More attacks and lower base damage gives more value, and the mobility lets you hit the right targets.  

Good point. This is why I put it up for review first. I think my brain was still thinking "mounts bad", but that doesn't apply to bounty hunters.

Edited July 10, 2022 by bonzai

[broche]

same comment as smash

also i think i would just go for 3 x 10 morboys

[bonzai]

On 7/8/2022 at 10:57 AM, broche said:

same comment as smash

also i think i would just go for 3 x 10 morboys

If I dropped the big stabbas and the wardokks I could fit a 3rd unit of 10. Would have to drop either the bounty hunters or conquerors battalion to make it work. Not thrilled about the idea of going down to just one hero though. I think I will try the list as is for now, except putting the Boarboys in the bounty hunter battalion instead of the big stabbas. 

Edited July 10, 2022 by bonzai

[Yargar]

I haven't seen anyone post here for awhile. How has everyones Bonesplitterz lists doing?  I enjoy the new rule of all models get the spirit of Gorkamorka.  I have been running individual units of Big Stabbas. They did well my last game.

[bonzai]

1 hour ago, Yargar said:

I haven't seen anyone post here for awhile. How has everyones Bonesplitterz lists doing?  I enjoy the new rule of all models get the spirit of Gorkamorka.  I have been running individual units of Big Stabbas. They did well my last game.

Lately I have been doing some small 750 teaching games to bring a friend into the hobby. I will be picking up an incarnate now that they are sold seperately, and am looking forward to giving it a spin.

My local GW store it thinking of running a fall Path to Glory campaign. I am torn between my FoC or Bonesplitters for it. If I run splitters, I will be kitbashing a squiggoth riding priest of gorkamorka as my Anvil of Apotheosis character. Would be fun to have a monster and cast curse again.

Plastic recently went 4-1 with his list. He did a list write up on facebook, but he hasn't posted a write up yet.

Edited August 30, 2022 by bonzai

[Yargar]

I'm hoping we can keep gaining traction, and get some new models in the future.

[Smash]

What do people think about including gordrakk in an bonesplitterz list? Is there any value in the tripple command? 

[NauticalSoup]

12 minutes ago, Smash said:

What do people think about including gordrakk in an bonesplitterz list? Is there any value in the tripple command? 

Wait, can you actually do this? I don't think you should be able to. He can order them in Big Waaagh but you can't take other orruks as allies in Warclans, you can only pick units that are tagged for your subfaction.

Although if you could I still probably wouldn't...

[Malakree]

33 minutes ago, NauticalSoup said:

Wait, can you actually do this? I don't think you should be able to. He can order them in Big Waaagh but you can't take other orruks as allies in Warclans, you can only pick units that are tagged for your subfaction.

Although if you could I still probably wouldn't...

No you can't.

[bonzai]

6 hours ago, Malakree said:

No you can't.

Which is BS. Especially seeing coalition rules other armies get.

[Smash]

Oh, that sucks. I guess I just got confused by the storm forge list builder in the official app. Because there he shows up when you filter on warmaster, and there is no problem adding him to a bonsplitterz list. I guess my list with Kragnos and Gordrakk would be to good haha. 

[Shirtripper]

After a long hiatus from Bonesplitterz, I took them to the NOVA Open this past weekend and placed 10th out ~160 players! I was in a three-way tie for 8th place and lost out on Strength of Schedule tiebreakers to make it in.  Still got Best Destruction.

I beat:

Nighthaunt - Scarlet Doom on Won't Back Down
Khorne - Bloodthirsters on Realmstone Cache
Seraphon - Thunderlizard on Silksteel Nests
Slaanesh - Pretenders on In the Presence of Idols

and lost to Daughters of Khaine - Khailebron on Close to the Chest (by 1 point)

Big shout out to @PlasticCraicfor the shell list he made that I shamelessly stole and made slight changes to!

The List:

Allegiance: Bonesplitterz
- Warclan: Drakkfoot
- Grand Strategy: No Place for the Weak
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
- Artefact: Mork's Boney Bitz
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Bonded to Incarnate
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
- Artefact: Glowin' Tattooz
- Lore of the Savage Beast: Glowy Green Tusks
Savage Big Boss (65)*
- General
- Command Trait: Great Hunter

Battleline
10 x Savage Orruk Morboys (155)***
10 x Savage Orruks (165)**
- Chompas
10 x Savage Orruks (165)**
- Chompas

Units
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (145)***
5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (145)***

Behemoths
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)
- Allies

Endless Spells & Invocations
Ravenak's Gnashing Jaws (60)

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Expert Conquerors
***Bounty Hunters

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 400 / 400
Wounds: 150
Drops: 14

[Lord Krungharr]

14 hours ago, Shirtripper said:

After a long hiatus from Bonesplitterz, I took them to the NOVA Open this past weekend and placed 10th out ~160 players! I was in a three-way tie for 8th place and lost out on Strength of Schedule tiebreakers to make it in.  Still got Best Destruction.

I beat:

Nighthaunt - Scarlet Doom on Won't Back Down
Khorne - Bloodthirsters on Realmstone Cache
Seraphon - Thunderlizard on Silksteel Nests
Slaanesh - Pretenders on In the Presence of Idols

and lost to Daughters of Khaine - Khailebron on Close to the Chest (by 1 point)

Big shout out to @PlasticCraicfor the shell list he made that I shamelessly stole and made slight changes to!

The List:

Allegiance: Bonesplitterz
- Warclan: Drakkfoot
- Grand Strategy: No Place for the Weak
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
- Artefact: Mork's Boney Bitz
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Bonded to Incarnate
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
- Artefact: Glowin' Tattooz
- Lore of the Savage Beast: Glowy Green Tusks
Savage Big Boss (65)*
- General
- Command Trait: Great Hunter

Battleline
10 x Savage Orruk Morboys (155)***
10 x Savage Orruks (165)**
- Chompas
10 x Savage Orruks (165)**
- Chompas

Units
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (145)***
5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (145)***

Behemoths
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)
- Allies

Endless Spells & Invocations
Ravenak's Gnashing Jaws (60)

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Expert Conquerors
***Bounty Hunters

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 400 / 400
Wounds: 150
Drops: 14

Those Gnashing Jaws messed me up this past weekend.  I'd love to fight the Splitterz with my Warherd!

[Holy_Diver]

On 9/6/2022 at 5:19 AM, Shirtripper said:

After a long hiatus from Bonesplitterz, I took them to the NOVA Open this past weekend and placed 10th out ~160 players! I was in a three-way tie for 8th place and lost out on Strength of Schedule tiebreakers to make it in.  Still got Best Destruction.

I beat:

Nighthaunt - Scarlet Doom on Won't Back Down
Khorne - Bloodthirsters on Realmstone Cache
Seraphon - Thunderlizard on Silksteel Nests
Slaanesh - Pretenders on In the Presence of Idols

and lost to Daughters of Khaine - Khailebron on Close to the Chest (by 1 point)

Big shout out to @PlasticCraicfor the shell list he made that I shamelessly stole and made slight changes to!

Hey!
Can I ask you any questions about the list? I am very curious to see how it behaves in my local meta, and also following the @PlasticCraic blog, I am trying to understand how the Bonesplitterz deal with certain situations.

For example: against Seraphon and Nighthuant how did you manage?

[bonzai]

On 9/5/2022 at 10:19 PM, Shirtripper said:

After a long hiatus from Bonesplitterz, I took them to the NOVA Open this past weekend and placed 10th out ~160 players! I was in a three-way tie for 8th place and lost out on Strength of Schedule tiebreakers to make it in.  Still got Best Destruction.

I beat:

Nighthaunt - Scarlet Doom on Won't Back Down
Khorne - Bloodthirsters on Realmstone Cache
Seraphon - Thunderlizard on Silksteel Nests
Slaanesh - Pretenders on In the Presence of Idols

and lost to Daughters of Khaine - Khailebron on Close to the Chest (by 1 point)

Big shout out to @PlasticCraicfor the shell list he made that I shamelessly stole and made slight changes to!

The List:

Allegiance: Bonesplitterz
- Warclan: Drakkfoot
- Grand Strategy: No Place for the Weak
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
- Artefact: Mork's Boney Bitz
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Bonded to Incarnate
Wurrgog Prophet (150)*
- Artefact: Glowin' Tattooz
- Lore of the Savage Beast: Glowy Green Tusks
Savage Big Boss (65)*
- General
- Command Trait: Great Hunter

Battleline
10 x Savage Orruk Morboys (155)***
10 x Savage Orruks (165)**
- Chompas
10 x Savage Orruks (165)**
- Chompas

Units
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)*
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (80)
5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (145)***
5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (145)***

Behemoths
Krondspine Incarnate of Ghur (400)
- Allies

Endless Spells & Invocations
Ravenak's Gnashing Jaws (60)

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Expert Conquerors
***Bounty Hunters

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 400 / 400
Wounds: 150
Drops: 14

Main question I have is, did Mork's Boney Bits ever do anything? Last edition I never left home without them, as I could get a 3+ to cast from them, a wardokk, and a Rogue Idol. Now with it being completely dependant on my opponents roster, I haven't looked at it since.