backslide Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Glad to hear about good results, but I'm gonna try to stay away from ratdaemons cause I have none and it doesnt work for me thematically... Painted my horrors, epitome tonight then the bloodcrushers Likely I'll try the slaneesh battlion next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1k game tomorrow only thing I really have locked in is gaunt summoner and a contorted empitemy think it will be vs daughters of khane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonlizardfromouterspace Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I am thinking of getting into LoCA/Legion of the Forst Prince, just for hobby reasons. Does anyone have a army with an interesting paint scheme? Especially one, that has a unifiying paint scheme for daemons of all sorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, demonlizardfromouterspace said: I am thinking of getting into LoCA/Legion of the Forst Prince, just for hobby reasons. Does anyone have a army with an interesting paint scheme? Especially one, that has a unifiying paint scheme for daemons of all sorts? All my bases match does that count? If you are.doing it for hobby reasons why do you want it to match? Edited May 27, 2020 by backslide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Ready to lead forth the legions of ascendant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonlizardfromouterspace Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, backslide said: All my bases match does that count? If you are.doing it for hobby reasons why do you want it to match? To have a demon army that looks at least a little bit like a combined force. I get it, that the several demon factions each have their distinct colour scheme (Khorne red, etc.), however I think it woul look nice, if theer was a shared element in them all. What I have in mind is something like a combined demon force where every mini has an orange colour feature on it, no matter if it's a Nurgle Daemon, Slaanesh, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeToWaste85 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, demonlizardfromouterspace said: To have a demon army that looks at least a little bit like a combined force. I get it, that the several demon factions each have their distinct colour scheme (Khorne red, etc.), however I think it woul look nice, if theer was a shared element in them all. What I have in mind is something like a combined demon force where every mini has an orange colour feature on it, no matter if it's a Nurgle Daemon, Slaanesh, etc. Make the weapons the same color? The bloodletters’ swords, Daemonettes’ claws, horrors’ flames and plaguebearers’ swords all one matching color? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I finally used the legion today! Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant- Host of Chaos: Legion of the First PrinceThe Contorted Epitome (200)- General- Command Trait: Ruinous Aura- Artefact: Fourfold Blade- Spell: Bolt of RuinGaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240)Spoilpox Scrivener Herald of Nurgle (90)10 x Daemonettes (110)10 x Plaguebearers (120)6 x Bloodcrushers (240)Total: 1000 / 1000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 200Wounds: 61 Vs daughters of khane, bloodshrine general 3x10 witches 10 doom fire warlocks Summoned 20 horrors turn 1 didnt kill much but they sucked in most of his army into a grind that he couldn't escape 50 wounds on a unit when you can keep it going with a command point is awesome Crushers just came up the flank and charged and crushed stuff he could have tied them up but was more worried about their attacks than he should have In total summoned 30 pinks 1 unit of which went all the way down to 4 brims... Plaugebearers never made contact but was a good meat shield daemonettes didnt do much but the threat of them sticking after they died annoyed him Epitome was brilliant support I need to get some endless spells 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendar Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, backslide said: Summoned 20 horrors turn 1 didnt kill much but they sucked in most of his army into a grind that he couldn't escape 50 wounds on a unit when you can keep it going with a command point is awesome Crushers just came up the flank and charged and crushed stuff he could have tied them up but was more worried about their attacks than he should have Epitome was brilliant support I need to get some endless spells Honestly at 1k, I don't think there is much that any combat focused army can do about Legion just summoning in Pinks every turn. Even shooting oriented ones can have trouble with it. Another potential solution to Horrors that I see would be to make it so you only get 10 Blues rather than 20, cutting total wounds down to 30. I've been really curious about running a big unit (say 9 to ensure you get d3 MW impact hits for longer) of Bloodcrushers in place of the typical K'Daai that many run. You'd have a large blob of 36 wounds on a 4+ this way that can do reasonable damage on the charge. That said, 2 Exalted Chariots are the same price, and while they have less wounds they have the potential to put out more MW's. Of course, this is when I start going back to Skarbrand who can easily just throw out 8-16 MW's every turn. Been thinking a lot about the Epitome myself recently.. though I don't personally want to replace it with my Corrupter. Having it around along with the Mesmerizing Mirror seems like it could work exceptionally well in a casting based list, which is what I've been planning: Spoiler Allegiance: Legion of Chaos AscendantLeadersVerminlord Corruptor (280)- General- Command Trait: Ruinous Aura- Artefact: Fourfold Blade- Spell: Echo of HatredKairos Fateweaver (400)- Spell: Bolt of RuinGaunt Summoner on Disc of Tzeentch (260)- Spell: Bolt of RuinThe Contorted Epitome (200)- Spell: Spirit GougeBattleline10 x Daemonettes (110)10 x Daemonettes (110)10 x Daemonettes (110)Units3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)1 x Exalted Flamers of Tzeentch (100)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsUmbral Spellportal (70)Darkfire Daemonrift (50)Mesmerising Mirror (60)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 80 Edited May 28, 2020 by Gwendar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The epitome is pretty dang good, 9 attacks with the relic 2 other attacks that are 2 damage each it's good, fantastic utility caster, its basic spell helps your whole army too Reroll all 1s to hit vs d3 targets my horrors poured out shots didnt do much but still 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Has anyone tried Legion of the First Prince yet? I'm half way through a game on TTS using the below: Belakor VL Corruptor - Fourfold Blade 20 Bloodletters 20 Daemonettes 20 Plague Bearers 10 Pink Horrors 6 Blood Crushers 3 Seeker Chariots My opponents list isn't very hard (200 Clanrats, Thanquol, Screaming bell with grey Seer, a few Claw Lords) but we're on the first half of turn three and it's going okay. The Corruptor is understandably bonkers. Crushers felt incredibly weak to be honest and the Chariots whiffed hard and died before I had a chance to Regen the unit. I built the list to try and take advantage of the Belakor buffs but it feels quite hard to get all four gods in range at all times and it slows Belakor down, having to stay within range of them. Giving up a command trait is tough (the 5+ shrug aura is amazing). Do you think it's worth ignoring the reroll buff to Belakor and instead focus on units of multi wound models for his CA instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Charlo said: Do you think it's worth ignoring the reroll buff to Belakor and instead focus on units of multi wound models for his CA instead? Yes. Be'lakor is an OK fighter, but the conditions are so restrictive. And that command is the best reason to take Crushers IMO. After their charge they do very little, but then they just keep regenerating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 22 hours ago, Roark said: Yes. Be'lakor is an OK fighter, but the conditions are so restrictive. And that command is the best reason to take Crushers IMO. After their charge they do very little, but then they just keep regenerating. This... 1 unit of 6 isnt enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 My second game with the legion tomorrow night... going for a slaneesh bent Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant Keeper of Secrets (360) - General - Shining Aegis - Command Trait: Ruinous Aura - Spell: Bolt of Ruin The Contorted Epitome (200) - Artefact: Fourfold Blade Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240) Bladebringer, Herald on Seeker Chariot (160) 20 x Daemonettes (220) 10 x Daemonettes (110) 10 x Daemonettes (110) 10 x Seekers (240) 10 x Seekers (240) Host of the Depraved (120) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 114 Relic for the general is undecided as is the realm I will proabbly for for something defensive I had a version of this list with 3x 10 seekers and only 3 characters but I wanted to use the blade bringer as the retreat and charge goes nice with the battlion and with retreat wander over near and objective and summon daemons then charge lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firtahl Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 6 Skull cannons done. Just need to finish the 100 horrors, 109 plaguebearers, and Be'lakor. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Have a tourney in about 3 weeks list suggestions? Have basically everything bar the weird rat stuff and chaos dwarfs must have a gaunt summoner and Belikore I want a list to maximize his command ablity where possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Stupid list idea... may drop the epitome for belikore Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant- Host of Chaos: Legion of the First PrinceMortal Realm: GhyranLeadersBloodthirster of Insensate Rage (270)- General- Command Trait: Ruinous Aura- Artefact: GhyrstrikeKairos Fateweaver (400)Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240)The Contorted Epitome (200)Battleline10 x Daemonettes (110)10 x Daemonettes (110)10 x Plaguebearers (120)Units6 x Bloodcrushers (240)6 x Bloodcrushers (240)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsPurple Sun of Shyish (50)Suffocating Gravetide (20)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeToWaste85 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Isn’t the BT of IR 280pts? I’m positive it is, per 2019 GHB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drib Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, TimeToWaste85 said: Isn’t the BT of IR 280pts? I’m positive it is, per 2019 GHB It is changed to 270 in the Dec 2019 Errata, link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 hours ago, TimeToWaste85 said: Isn’t the BT of IR 280pts? I’m positive it is, per 2019 GHB Its straight from warscroll and its what's on asur as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blisterfeet Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I have continued playing crazy versions and I want to point out a few findings in over 10 games now with this allegiance. Kairos is a monster and I love him in this army. Corruptor - autoinclude. Flex for 4th slot I run a BT but I could see arguments for Epitome, Gaunt etc. Screamers with a FNP and their move speed and loads of wounds are awesome and I'm running 9 to 12 to give me space (as most people give me first turn due to deep deployment) Skreech is hilarious if you want to have fun. Bodge (for the non English speakers, change his roll to succeed) his roll for his spell with Kairos and spawn clanrats 🤣🤣😂 Lists I've played on various battleplans - Seraphon 4 times(3-1 in games so far), Ironjawz twice, Cities 3 times, Sylvaneth twice, Stormcast. Disclaimer: not a top player, anecdotal evidence your mileage may vary, not tested Bel'akor really and I know he's very strong. Chaos for the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatpipeline Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, Blisterfeet said: I have continued playing crazy versions and I want to point out a few findings in over 10 games now with this allegiance. Kairos is a monster and I love him in this army. Corruptor - autoinclude. Flex for 4th slot I run a BT but I could see arguments for Epitome, Gaunt etc. Screamers with a FNP and their move speed and loads of wounds are awesome and I'm running 9 to 12 to give me space (as most people give me first turn due to deep deployment) Skreech is hilarious if you want to have fun. Bodge (for the non English speakers, change his roll to succeed) his roll for his spell with Kairos and spawn clanrats 🤣🤣😂 Lists I've played on various battleplans - Seraphon 4 times(3-1 in games so far), Ironjawz twice, Cities 3 times, Sylvaneth twice, Stormcast. Disclaimer: not a top player, anecdotal evidence your mileage may vary, not tested Bel'akor really and I know he's very strong. Chaos for the win! Can you post your latest list? You've definitely got me curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blisterfeet Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, meatpipeline said: Can you post your latest list? You've definitely got me curious Sure thing so as I don't know what you are looking for I will post the more competitive list and the hilarious list just in case. Hilarious Verminlord Corruptor [G] with 4fold blade - Echo of hatred Kairos Fateweaver - Bolt of Ruin BT of insensate rage Skreech - Spirit Gouge PlagueB 10 PlagyeB 10 Bloodletters 10 (I don't have more PB if you do run another 10 blob of these) 9 Screamers Spell portal (Kairos uses this to snipe support heroes and do damage from backfield). 1990 with extra CP More competitive version I swap the Skreech for a Deceiver. Though I know alot of people run Bela'kor + Epitome which you can do by cutting down on my choices. Tactics deployment varies on list but generally. Verminlord/BT/Screened by screamers front line. Kairos screen in a bubble with PB X2 and then 3rd Battleline and other hero go mid field or side flank. Always summon pinks. Anyways very fun, lots of flex and play in list building and on table tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Blisterfeet said: Kairos is a monster and I love him in this army. I'm planning on trying fateweaver this week with a rage thirster hopfully spike the outrageous carnage right in the middle.... I dont have much in the way of endless spells yet Lady fate does feel suitable for the legion of the dark prince doesn't she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blisterfeet Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, backslide said: I'm planning on trying fateweaver this week with a rage thirster hopfully spike the outrageous carnage right in the middle.... I dont have much in the way of endless spells yet Lady fate does feel suitable for the legion of the dark prince doesn't she? Amazing work dude! I think the synergy with Kairos and being able to trigger that vital boom or stopping a potential game winning spell or as shown in the hilarious list getting Skreech spell off, is worth it alone. It's fun in all the right doses. My friends don't mind playing against it either because they feel they are in it for large portions too. Which is hard to find in good lists. Nothing worse than a game being 1 sided or non interactive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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