WathLab Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Overread said: One would hope that they do return the removed products to sale with the universal cards removed. Completely agree on this. Season 1 warbands are all great, and that would be a pity to lose such a great diversity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugane Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I hope this also means they will have the option for all universal cards being available as a standalone product, since they want the entry barrier being lower. I am quite tired of buying almost every warband I will never play just for the cards. And now 1 year of purchases is kind of invalidated card-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiotrW Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Wait, what??? The old bands won't be available..? I really wanted that Skaven warband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, PiotrW said: Wait, what??? The old bands won't be available..? I really wanted that Skaven warband Right now the models still are, but they removed the warband with cards from sale from the first generation. We still don't know what Gw's long term plan is and many are hoping that they re-release the 1st gen warbands with the character cards in them or release a character card pack or something to let them function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiotrW Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Aaaaargh! This is really frustrating! *goes hunting for a third-party shop that still has the Skaven warband in stock* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, PiotrW said: Aaaaargh! This is really frustrating! *goes hunting for a third-party shop that still has the Skaven warband in stock* See this is why I hope GW is just repackaging them. The warbands are tied to armies; Skaven players will want skaven warbands and just because the cards have moved on; doesn't mean that all skaven players got the warbands when they wanted them. And I can't see GW managing to release a new warband for every faction every 2 rotations of cards within the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiotrW Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Overread said: See this is why I hope GW is just repackaging them. The warbands are tied to armies; Skaven players will want skaven warbands and just because the cards have moved on; doesn't mean that all skaven players got the warbands when they wanted them. And I can't see GW managing to release a new warband for every faction every 2 rotations of cards within the game. Do you think it's wise to buy any of these warbands now? Or, maybe, GW will declare them non-legal for games... or re-release them with some completely new cards that will render the old bands invalid..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, PiotrW said: Do you think it's wise to buy any of these warbands now? Or, maybe, GW will declare them non-legal for games... or re-release them with some completely new cards that will render the old bands invalid..? GW said that they are legal for Beastgrove - however what their release plans are going forward are totally unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiotrW Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I found this article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/08/warhammer-underworlds-the-future-of-competitive-playgw-homepage-post-1/ If I understand correctly, it means that all warbands will be available, but with the updated card sets..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 It does look like it and I really hope so. It's the most sensible thing for GW to do - otherwise its just building in a weakness and problem. Heck I'd welcome them fully taking universal cards out of the model packs and making them a separate item from the models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiotrW Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 It'd be the most sensible thing to do, yes! That way, they wouldn't have to re-released the warbands all the time... They'd have only to update the core universal deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyshadow Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Gosh I love these warbands - I really hope they stay around too. (It looks like they will be which is good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Came here to see what y'all though, I am mostly hoping they don't go the WOTC route like Magic and rotate things so fast you have to spend a stupid amount of money to keep up. With them adding new mechanics past Shadespire though, it does make sense to stop printing Shadespire universal cards and rotating them out. I don't want to think the sky is falling but game companies and money grubbing is par for the course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: Came here to see what y'all though, I am mostly hoping they don't go the WOTC route like Magic and rotate things so fast you have to spend a stupid amount of money to keep up. With them adding new mechanics past Shadespire though, it does make sense to stop printing Shadespire universal cards and rotating them out. I don't want to think the sky is falling but game companies and money grubbing is par for the course The spending is just for modern though, and many of the generic cards are reprinted enough that they will always stay valid, I play Commander, and check yearly whether cards have come out that complement my warband, but the old cards rarely, if ever leave that format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, CommissarRotke said: Came here to see what y'all though, I am mostly hoping they don't go the WOTC route like Magic and rotate things so fast you have to spend a stupid amount of money to keep up. With them adding new mechanics past Shadespire though, it does make sense to stop printing Shadespire universal cards and rotating them out. I don't want to think the sky is falling but game companies and money grubbing is par for the course 2 years is a pretty long amount of time. I'm already tired of Shadespire cards and want something fresh. Obviously they want to make money. Nobody sane thinks any company is going to altruistically make their game sell at a loss or support something that doesn't make money. So yeah, the rotation gets them paid. But, it also is healthy for the meta, so it's a win/win in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Like some others, my guess is they're going to be repacked with the new 'full' decks of updated neutrals. If they were being culled I expect they'd have yanked the model-only packs along with them. My guess is we'll see them the same time as the Cursebreakers and Thorns get a standalone release. The updated Underworlds site, awash with Beastgrave, still lists them as playable Warbands... at the top of it, incidentally. Edited September 19, 2019 by Clan's Cynic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 They always said they would still be playable. The intent is that models never rotate. I doubt they get printed with new Universals, as the card count for Beastgrave is about the same as the previous sets. I imagine they get a separate release with just their Faction cards, or their Faction cards become available separately, as you can already buy the models by themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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