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On 1/2/2020 at 1:46 PM, Scurvydog said:

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Sorry for the late reply! Thanks for the info and I agree 40 is probably too much. 

What do you and everyone else advise in situations when you are against a shooting heavy list and / or heavy magic (so Hallowheart basically). Say you are going in knowing 99.9% even before list building its a heavy shooting and magic list, what are your lists looking like? Would you recommend something like prismatic palisade? What about Immortis guard for the heroes?

By heavy shooting and magic im talking 30 Darkshards, 2-4 reaper bolt throwers (we allow them in our group despite them not being "legal"), and basically 4 casters, (2 sorcs, 1 battlemage and dreadlord with artefact to cast). The Battlemage with the Transmutation of Lead spell is a pain, and a lot the Hallowheart spells look like massive kick in the groin as well to boot. 

I may have a game soon with this list, which is VERY un-optimised  - at least whilst I am waiting for my crawler and Katakross to arrive and be built etc. I name it my "I finally have close to 2k, this is what I have and I am tired of building, I just want a game for heavens sake!" list: 

Legion: Up for debate but i'll stick in PE for now. 

  • Liege Kav 
    • Helm of the Ordained
    • General
  • Bone Shaper
    • Godbone armour
  • Bone Shaper
  • Soul Mason
     
  • Mortek Guard x 20 - Swords
  • Mortek Guard x 20 - Swords
  • Mortek Guard x 10 - Swords
     
  • 1 unit Morghast Harbinger / Archai
  • 1 unit Morghast Harbinger / Archai
  • 1 Unit Stalker / Immortis 
     
  • Mortek Shield Corp. 

1990 / 2000

So yeah, far from the best and still unsure on a lot of things like which of the Morghast variants to go with and whether to go with them as one or two units. Same with stalkers over immortis. I may pull a Morghast unit or the stalkers / immortis and just buy and build a harvester quickly. Also may even get the Endless spells and build the Carrion as well if I drop a Morghast unit. 

Would this be a definite Null Myriad choice? Or even something like Stalliarch to get in there asap and cause some mayhem? Or is PE still the go to even in this scenario?

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Just remember if you run Stalliarch you'll lose that helm of the ordained as the first liege to get an artifact has to use the Stalliarch artifact.

 

Speaking of which if you dont give a liege an artifact in stalliarch lords you are open to all Mortisan and realm artifacts. Rule just says "the first Stalliarch Lords Liege to receive an artifact. . ." So as long as you leave him blank you can give your mortisans whatever.

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9 hours ago, Gwendar said:

Only used it once so far and did a batrep on it. It went fine, though I'm not convinced it works from a competitive standpoint.. could probably go even.

I just run Nagash, 3x20 Mortek and 6 Stalkers. Like I said, it works well enough but I've only played it against Sylvaneth and I feel against many other armies it could potentially crumble with the low RDP which this army really hinges on.

Had a look at your batreps, Double mortarch wouldve been cool. What do you run in that list and how has it fared?

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45 minutes ago, ArgyBargy said:

Had a look at your batreps, Double mortarch wouldve been cool. What do you run in that list and how has it fared?

The Katakros + Arkhan list looks like this:

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Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite

Leaders
Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)
- General
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
5 x Kavalos Deathriders (180)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield

Units
6 x Necropolis Stalkers (400)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Nightmare Predator (40)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 110
 

Unfortunately I haven't been able to play it yet. Was going to today but had to cancel my game, so I will likely get 1-2 games in with it come next weekend. I suspect it will be my favorite choice for competitive play and I fall back on the Nagash list for everything else. I don't want to go with Crawlers for reasons that have been discussed for pages and pages (easily shutdown, swingy) and Harvesters are far too easily shot\MW'd off the board to make a difference to me. With the above I'm getting solid mobility and 2x20 Mortek are generally enough to cover an objective each while Stalkers 'hunt and kill' what is needed... Kavalos just go where needed or screen backfield. With a minimum of 6 RDP you're doing pretty good in that department too.

Katakros is a great buff piece and Arkhan can expand on that.. plus if you manage to get off a solid Curse of Years that's a pretty cool moment too 😉

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Hello all! So I'm finishing up my first list for bonereapers and wanna know what you guys think. 

I'll be playing Null Myriad.

Budget is a little tight, I'll be buying a liege and death riders this month, but I am open to suggestion. Would Arkhan be a better choice? It is his legion after all.

 

Liege Kavolos - General

          -unsettling sinister

          - Baleful Blade 

Boneshaper

          - artisan key

Soulmason

Mortek guard x10 Blade

Mortek guard x10 Blade

Mortek guard x10 Blade

Kavolos Deathrider x5 spear(?)

Mortek crawler

Mortek shield Corp

Necropolis stalker x6 spirit blades

Morghast Archai x2 Halberd

Ravenaks gnashing jaws

2000pts exactly.

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I know its really dumb but what do you guys make of this 12 stalkers list?  Theyre absolute murder machines and i want a novelty list with as many as i can fit.

Liege
Shaper 
Mason

40x Mortek
10x Mortek
10x Mortek

6x Stalkers
6x Stalkers

Shrieker
 

or 

 

Katakros

20x Mortek

20x Mortek 

5x Deathriders

6x Stalkers 

6x Stalkers

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@ArgyBargy I mean if novelty is your thing I would just go with the Katakros list.. also because I don't like Mortek in 40's or 10. Katakros' aura should cover most of the fightable board area if he stays above that threshold so.. could be interesting.

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11 hours ago, Gwendar said:

The Katakros + Arkhan list looks like this:

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Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite

Leaders
Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)
- General
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
5 x Kavalos Deathriders (180)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield

Units
6 x Necropolis Stalkers (400)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Nightmare Predator (40)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 110
 

I’ve played a couple of games with the following Katakros + Arkhan lists (once each so far)

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite

Leaders
Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)
- General
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
5 x Kavalos Deathriders (180)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield

Units
2 x Morghast Harbingers (210)
- Spirit Swords
2 x Morghast Harbingers (210)
- Spirit Swords

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Suffocating Gravetide (20)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 110
I played vs Slaanesh with this list. Gift From The Heavens, it didn’t go well for me. The Locus making you fight last plus their ability to fight multiple times hurts a lot.

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite

Leaders
Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)
- General
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
10 x Kavalos Deathriders (360)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield

Units
2 x Morghast Harbingers (210)
- Spirit Swords

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Nightmare Predator (40)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 113
I played this vs Stormcast in Places Of Arcane Power. It was technically a draw when we called it but I would have automatically won in the next turn as I’d killed all his heroes. I probably could have tabled him too. I did make some rules mistakes though (gave Katakros the Petrifex Elite -1 rend command ability, Deathriders probably weren’t wholly within 6” of the Hekatos for command abilities)

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@Joseph Mackay Yeah...when I play Slaanesh with anything but Skaven (or anyother shoot\teleport heavy army) I never have a great time. I haven't been able to play them since their FAQ so all in all I would fair better but... yeah, AFL + Double Pile-in will always hurt.

But yeah.. wholly within 6" of Hekatos is the reason I don't run more than 20 or more than 5 of Guard and Kavalos respectively.. and I really think those are the best numbers to have for each overall. Did the Harbingers work for you at all? I really never considered them (even with their 3d6 charge) as the Stalkers just put out so much more. While it's nice to be able to charge over a screen and hit the supporting units behind, I find that 6 Stalkers will kill whatever is in front of them anyway and they're seldom afraid of what is behind that screen.. unless it's something like a Maw-Krusha or TG.

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@Gwendar I’m not sure on the Morghasts to be honest, I’ve been running them mostly because that’s what I have.

sometimes they do quite a bit of damage and other times they just get murdered

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38 minutes ago, Joseph Mackay said:

other times they just get murdered

Which is why a lot of people who do take them will go with Archai but.. meh. Harbinger charge range is great but the output isn't there when Stalkers can RR their charges and put out more for fewer points which... is nuts on that and I feel it's an oversight.

Initially I had anticipated using them as hero assassins instead of a Crawler as they could easily get into the backline, but that also proved to not be worth it in comparison 😉

 

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I'm a fan of this list so far- it's won me a match vs Blightkings.

 

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite
Mortal Realm: Shyish

Leaders
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)
Mortisan Soulmason (140)
- General
- Trait: Mighty Archaeossian
- Artefact: Godbone Armour
- Lore of Mortisans: Arcane Command

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
10 x Mortek Guard (130)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades
10 x Mortek Guard (130)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades

Units
3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)
3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)

Behemoths
Mortek Crawler (200)
Mortek Crawler (200)

Battalions
Mortek Ballistari (100)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Soulsnare Shackles (40)
Bone-tithe Shrieker (30)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 104
 

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11 minutes ago, abesolutzero said:

I'm a fan of this list so far- it's won me a match vs Blightkings.

 

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite
Mortal Realm: Shyish

Leaders
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)
Mortisan Soulmason (140)
- General
- Trait: Mighty Archaeossian
- Artefact: Godbone Armour
- Lore of Mortisans: Arcane Command

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
10 x Mortek Guard (130)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades
10 x Mortek Guard (130)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades

Units
3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)
3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)

Behemoths
Mortek Crawler (200)
Mortek Crawler (200)

Battalions
Mortek Ballistari (100)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Soulsnare Shackles (40)
Bone-tithe Shrieker (30)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 104
 

Pretty sure the list is illegal.

Ballastari needs a boneshaper.

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Anyone got any good recommendations for 25mm movement trays for our Mortek units?

Bonus points if there is a little bit of space to put some basing material on there.

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9 minutes ago, BadDice0809 said:

Pretty sure the list is illegal.

Ballastari needs a boneshaper.

Stupid hero names look all the same. Guess that'll save me a lot of points, then, by not bothering with the Ballistari. Reroll 1s to hit is way too valuable.

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55 minutes ago, BadDice0809 said:

Anyone got any good recommendations for 25mm movement trays for our Mortek units?

Bonus points if there is a little bit of space to put some basing material on there.

None that I currently like, but this kickstarter looks promising:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tt2/thunder-trays?fbclid=IwAR1vA-GMgTpsOX_H6Kc414gINb2zk539Prl6GybdloFxugM0jFk5CwL1Ae0

 

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Had my first game with a Nagash list the other day, and did not expect him to do as well as he did. In addition to shutting down casting, he's just so much more resilient AND deadly in OBR - between Petrifex, Protection of Nagash, and healing 3 each turn defensively, coupled with +1 to hit from Shrieker, additional -1 rend from Petrifex CA, +1 attack from Liege, and his own CA rerolling 1s, he is MUCH more of a presence in combat than in LoN. Not to mention the +3 move you can give him to get him where you need him to be much easier. None of this is even "magical christmas land", you can reliably do all this and have 2-3 RDP left over for Shieldwall and whatnot.

For reference, my list was:
Petrifex Elite
Nagash
Liege Kavalos (general)
20 Mortek
20 Mortek
10 Deathriders
Bone-Tithe Shrieker

I didn't feel as starved for RDP as I expected, and this list was really fun to play. As the only one who plays OBR at my store, I'm getting the sense the other players are definitely of the mind that OBR (or at least Petrifex) is a bit OP, and I can't say I disagree. Haven't even come close to losing a game with them yet!

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Hello everybony,

Im new to the community, also new to the obr, and i like to join a regional tournament with this army next month. 

1500 points 

Katakros

Mason

2x20 guards sword

3 stalkers

200 points left...

 

Harvester for more durability?

Crawler to snipe champs?

More stalkers?

Riders?

 

Help me pls 😋👍

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32 minutes ago, bigmoerk said:

Hello everybony,

Im new to the community, also new to the obr, and i like to join a regional tournament with this army next month. 

1500 points 

Katakros

Mason

2x20 guards sword

3 stalkers

200 points left...

 

Harvester for more durability?

Crawler to snipe champs?

More stalkers?

Riders?

 

Help me pls 😋👍

Oh no... i misscalculated... thought of 230 points for 20 guards... so 140 points left, and that means 10 guards on top.

 

would be this list:

Katakros (500)

Soulmason (140)

20 guards (260)

20 guards (260)

10 guards (130)

3 stalkers (200) = 1490 points.

 

Any suggestions?

the szenarios we will play are

-starstrike

- border war

- shifting objectives

i think, that these missions are not that fast, more statik and slow. good for our guards and katakros. what do you think?

 

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I’ve been playing OBR for a month now trying the different sub factions and units to see what works/doesn’t work. Haven’t played with Katakros cause I don’t own him yet, but as a post-holiday gift I decided to treat myself by purchasing him as he’s a gorgeous model. 
 

When I finish painting him up I plan on fielding this list along side a bunch of mortek guard. I really want to make use of the mortek guard as I love the models, and I plan to do so with the buffs that Katakros and the other heroes provide, in addition to the various types of healing. Let me know what you guys think;  any suggestions/improvements are welcome: 

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Mortis Praetorians 

Leaders
Katakros  (500)
- General

Mortisan Boneshaper (130)
- Lore of Mortisans: Reinforce Battle-Shields 

Mortisan Soulreaper (120)
- Lore of Mortisans: Drain Vitality 
- Artifact: Artificer’s Blade 

Mortisan Soulmason (140)
- Lore of Mortisans: Empower Nadirite weapons 
- Lore of Mortisans: Protection of Nagash
- Artifact: Gothizzar Cartouche 

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
20 x Mortek Guard (260)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades

Behemoths
Gothizzar Harvester (200)

Battalions
Mortek Shield-corps (120)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Bone-Tithe Nexus (0) 

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 106

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Got my second AOS tournament on the weekend. I finished painting my OBR last night.

The lists have been published. Tournament is 40 players and there's some rough lists. Like one list with four Bloodthirsters of Insensate Rage. 

There's a cool Skyre list with a Warpcog Convocation.

...

I sure have painted a lot since Contrasts came out six months ago.

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44 minutes ago, Obeisance said:

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Got my second AOS tournament on the weekend. I finished painting my OBR last night.

The lists have been published. Tournament is 40 players and there's some rough lists. Like one list with four Bloodthirsters of Insensate Rage. 

There's a cool Skyre list with a Warpcog Convocation.

...

I sure have painted a lot since Contrasts came out six months ago.

allofit.jpg.d478864111614dd394ff589ab5999165.jpg

 

 

 

 

Whats this 4 insensate rage BT list? That could really hurt OBR.

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Adam Simpson

Battlemaster AOS

Adam Simpson’s Khorne Demons

Allegiance: Khorne

Slaughter Host: Reapers of Vengeance

Hidden Agenda: Obliterate,  invade, Ancient Heirloom, dominate, terrify, retake, onslaught and overrun 

Command Points: +1

Army Total: 1960

 

LEADERS

(General)

Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270]

Artefact of Power: Skullshard Mantle, Mage Eater

Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270]

Artefact it Power: A’ragth the King of Blades

 

Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270]

Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270]

Bloodletters (30) Bloodreaper Horn blower Standard bearer Bloodsoaked Banner [300]

Flesh Hounds (5) [100]

Flesh Hounds (5) [100]

Bloodcrushers (3) Blood Hunter Horn blower Icon bearer [120]

Bloodcrushers (3) Blood Hunter Horn blower Icon bearer [120]

WARSCROLL BATTALIONS

Tyrants of Blood [140]

https://downunderpairings.com/ArmyList.php?ArmyID=15297

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To be honest, I'm not really sure how to handle it if I play it. Aside from try to limit Insensate damage and kill them on the counter charge. Try to play the scenario.

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I play Khorne as my other army, unsurprising given my pic...

I think that list would really struggle, without buffs, which other than locus there aren’t any, all of the IR thirster will be hitting on 4s with only 5 attacks each on the top bracket. 
 

The one to look out for is the one with A’ragth as that will hit heroes on a 2+, so as long as all your heroes are screened it should be fine.

Also, apart from the bloodletter blob, when it’s >20, you can pretty much ignore the rest of the units, they will just bounce off of mortek guard.

Meant to add, any debuffs like the -1 hit from the nexus are your friend!

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