The Rumour Thread

[Black_Templar_Lad]

Underworlds getting a Demon warband for each God then maybe?

[Lord Kroak]

The presence of god characters is a major reason why the AoS lore doesn't appeal to me. From what I've read, it just feels like the only real characters in the setting are Sigmar, Nagash, etc, and everyone else is just their puppet.

For instance, all the Stormcast characters seem to just be vessels of Sigmar's will, who do little more than follow his orders. And all the Ossiarch and Nighthaunt characters are little more than Nagash's puppets, who exist just to enact his plans. Meanwhile, the Soulblight vampires are all terrified of Nagash, so they too just mostly do what he says (but unwillingly). The absolute power of Nagash over all death deprives all the other death characters of their own opportunities to be actual characters.

I think GW added god characters to the setting because at the time the Marvel Cinematic Universe was extremely popular, and they figured they could make the Mortal Realms appealing by adding superheroes and supervillains. But these kinds of uber-characters require a certain setting to work. When you shoehorn them into a high fantasy setting like AoS, all they do is steal the thunder from all the other characters and make the universe seem small.

I'd love to see the gods taken down a peg, have Nagash lose some of his power over death, and have other death characters rebel against him. There could be a death civil war between pro-Nagash and anti-Nagash factions. That would create some much-needed conflict and depth to the setting, and allow non-god characters to develop their own goals, motivations, and agency, making the setting seem alive.

 

[Magnusaur]

I would love to see a Death army based around galvanism and Frankenstein-esque (yes, the doctor, I know) monstrosities that are reanimated by science rather than magic. Some kind of loophole around Nagash's grasp.

[Twisted Firaun]

34 minutes ago, Danaork said:

The flies and maggots scream Nurgle, but the general theme of the post says FEC.... of course it could just be GW subtly teasing the newest facet of the Death vs Nurgle narrative: having the cannibalistic and disease ridden FEC be targeted by the Maggotkin (and vice versa).

[Beliman]

@Lord KroakDawnbringers campagin seems to be fixing this. But I partialy agree with you. It doesn't help that some of this Gods can be played on the table, and can be killed with a few units/combo. But the other side of the coin is that other Gods seems to be overpowered, and I mean, so strong that can even shape mountains or kill uber-gargants. When there is a big gap between rules and lore, players have a hard time to swallow the whole story.

And I know that it's impossible to represent god-like beings on the table, but maybe that's exactly our problem with the setting. Make all this titans be playable at 3000-5000 points, or maybe downgrade them to Primarch-like characters. I don't care what they do, but the story needs to be believable and rules will help in achieving that.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Beliman

[DinoJon]

18 minutes ago, Magnusaur said:

I would love to see a Death army based around galvanism and Frankenstein-esque (yes, the doctor, I know) monstrosities that are reanimated by science rather than magic. Some kind of loophole around Nagash's grasp.

We had that one Underworlds Warband so it's definitely possible! I'm an old time Warmachine player and having an undead army with mechanical doo-dads scratches an itch that AoS doesn't currently do. 

[dmorley21]

59 minutes ago, michu said:

This feels more Nurgle than FEC. WHU?

Definitely FEC. Maggots make sense for both armies, and we know FEC is coming during the preview show.

[dmorley21]

1 hour ago, Danaork said:

The great feast are coming !! ☠️

Might even be in time for a holiday feast…

[Twisted Firaun]

17 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

We had that one Underworlds Warband so it's definitely possible! I'm an old time Warmachine player and having an undead army with mechanical doo-dads scratches an itch that AoS doesn't currently do. 

I won't lie, Cryx was one of two factions that nearly tempted me into Warmachine/Hordes (the other being the Blindwater Congregation (cause voodoo gator men rule)), so a faction of Frankenstein's Monsters sounds really tempting. Unfortunately, odds are that we won't get that for AOS, but maybe in 40k as a part of the Dark Mechanicus.

[Someravella]

57 minutes ago, Lord Kroak said:

The presence of god characters is a major reason why the AoS lore doesn't appeal to me. From what I've read, it just feels like the only real characters in the setting are Sigmar, Nagash, etc, and everyone else is just their puppet.

For instance, all the Stormcast characters seem to just be vessels of Sigmar's will, who do little more than follow his orders. And all the Ossiarch and Nighthaunt characters are little more than Nagash's puppets, who exist just to enact his plans. Meanwhile, the Soulblight vampires are all terrified of Nagash, so they too just mostly do what he says (but unwillingly). The absolute power of Nagash over all death deprives all the other death characters of their own opportunities to be actual characters.

I think GW added god characters to the setting because at the time the Marvel Cinematic Universe was extremely popular, and they figured they could make the Mortal Realms appealing by adding superheroes and supervillains. But these kinds of uber-characters require a certain setting to work. When you shoehorn them into a high fantasy setting like AoS, all they do is steal the thunder from all the other characters and make the universe seem small.

I'd love to see the gods taken down a peg, have Nagash lose some of his power over death, and have other death characters rebel against him. There could be a death civil war between pro-Nagash and anti-Nagash factions. That would create some much-needed conflict and depth to the setting, and allow non-god characters to develop their own goals, motivations, and agency, making the setting seem alive.

 

For me, AoS has to be approached as a "Dark Souls" universe rather than a "The Lord of the Rings". There are a lot of myths, godbeasts, gods, and factions are like the bosses and the enemies of their areas.

I don't care to explain that 😝

[Grunbag]

Next Warhammer underworld will be kruleboyz then vampire 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Grunbag

[Vasshpit]

7 minutes ago, Grunbag said:

Next Warhammer underworld will be kruleboyz then vampire 

Any idea as to what will be for Kruleboyz? 

[Grunbag]

7 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:

Any idea as to what will be for Kruleboyz? 

No , just quoting @Nighthaunt Noob who said this .
 

Roadmap says Destruction anyway 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Grunbag

[Ejecutor]

15 hours ago, michu said:

This feels more Nurgle than FEC. WHU?

It does, indeed, but if you look at the borders it is looking more FEC with some bones, so it looks like a we would get a mix of both?

Edited November 16, 2023 by Ejecutor

[Copywolf]

1 hour ago, Danaork said:

This could still be FEC, what with the bones and insects may just indicate decaying meat?

[Luperci]

1 hour ago, Magnusaur said:

I would love to see a Death army based around galvanism and Frankenstein-esque (yes, the doctor, I know) monstrosities that are reanimated by science rather than magic. Some kind of loophole around Nagash's grasp.

we had that one WHU warband based on that idea sorta, I think the scientist was a soulblight vampire though. Would be cool to see more of for sure

[Someravella]

1 hour ago, Vasshpit said:

Any idea as to what will be for Kruleboyz? 

New Shaman?

Or

Spoiler

A band of trackers of Drogrukhs

😝

Edited November 15, 2023 by Someravella

[Grungnisson]

2 hours ago, michu said:

This feels more Nurgle than FEC. WHU?

I'd say the bones at the bottom are quite clearly pointing towards a cannibalistic feast.

[The Brotherhood of Necros]

The carrion king 😍

[Zagnog]

Tengo muchas ganas de ver una nueva banda de mis hermosos chicos del pantano, probablemente chamanes.

[Vasshpit]

1 hour ago, Someravella said:

New Shaman?

That's my bet. Throw that arachnarok rumor engine pic on his back and we good. 

1 hour ago, Someravella said:

A band of trackers of Drogrukhs

I really hope they don't end up as my bog boyz calvary....

[DinoJon]

Do we know what size the non-deified Drogrukhs were?  

[Snorri Nelriksson]

35 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

Do we know what size the non-deified Drogrukhs were?  

IIRC Kragnos got that huge cause he was on a Ghur realmstone diet...but considering they battled the Draconith maybe they are at least monstrous in size (like dragon ogors?).

[Kronos]

14 hours ago, Gitzdee said:

I agree for the most part. Chaos gods and Gorkamorka dont have a specific form that has ever been illustrated to my knowledge. They are some higher power that i dont think will ever get a model. If they dont make models for those gods they can continue to release a bunch of avatars and champion models for those gods. Not sure about Sigmar though. Does he go with the likes of Teclis, Kroak, Allarielle, Nagash etcetera or with the other gods.

Khorne and Tzeentch have had “recent” art but all 4 have Older Art from way back when. I’m very much in the mindset of More is more and would relish a Sigmar model. Unpopular opinion but I would want him in Resin (the real resin) with all the detail and attributes they give the Primarchs - just look at Horus Ascended and Fulgrim, now Imagine what Sigmar could be. If they can portray the Primarchs and the Emperor, they can Portray Sigmar. Horus Heresy got Horus, and Lord of the Rings got Sauron, Age of Sigmar is missing out 😂

[Ejecutor]

8 minutes ago, Kronos said:

Khorne and Tzeentch have had “recent” art but all 4 have Older Art from way back when. I’m very much in the mindset of More is more and would relish a Sigmar model. Unpopular opinion but I would want him in Resin (the real resin) with all the detail and attributes they give the Primarchs - just look at Horus Ascended and Fulgrim, now Imagine what Sigmar could be. If they can portray the Primarchs and the Emperor, they can Portray Sigmar. Horus Heresy got Horus, and Lord of the Rings got Sauron, Age of Sigmar is missing out 😂

If it is going to be 250 € like Fulgrim, better to do not release him!