jhamslam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, DJMoose said: Is the teleport wholly within 14" now? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, jhamslam said: 12 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) Hagg Narr 1. +1 to Rites of battle 2. CA - Pick one cauldron of blood within 3 of friendly hag narr units and wholly within 12 of a hag narr hero. add 3 to the move of hagg nar cauldron 3. 5 + FNP Wholly within 12 of the general 4. Pick one melee weapon add 1 to damage if it charged @Chumphammer Edited February 12, 2021 by jhamslam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, jhamslam said: Hagg Narr 1. +1 to Rites of battle 2. CA - Pick one cauldron of blood within 3 of friendly hag narr units and wholly within 12 of a hag narr hero. add 3 to the move of hagg nar 3. 5 + FNP Wholly within 12 of the general 4. Pick one melee weapon add 1 to damage if it charged @Chumphammer ****** man these are really good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I'm loving those Daughters rules. They've gone for keeping the rules we've long associated with each Temple but modifying them to be less exploitable, and hey, the Kraith rule might actually trigger now! Early times yet but it's looking good so far. Hagg Narr and Khailebron still look like my go-to Temples for the defensive bonuses given the meta we're in, but I do like the look of the other three moreso than before (hooray for Khelt Nar finally having rules!) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Yeah be interesting to see prayers and spells 1st thoughts is you will see more variety in factions now, a lot more options opened. Like hag narr only can hold 1 big block now to fit in 12, so more msu and 1 tank block with heart spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Khailebron and Hagg Narr both seem like obvious choices but Khelt Nar seems like it could be sneaky good. Retreat and charge is super powerful, especially with Morathi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) @Chumphammer Sisters of slaughter - 120 points no max bonus Witch Elves - 100 pts, no max bonus Avatar - 130 Bloodwrack Medusa - 100 Hag QUeen 90 Ironscale - 110 Morathi - 600 Morgwaeth - 80 Slaughter Queen - 100 Bloodwrack shrine - 160 Slaughter queen on cauldron- 270 Hag queen on cauldron - 220 Blood sisters - 130 BATTLELINE WITH. IRONSCALE OR BLOODWRACK Blood Stalkers. - 140 BATTLELINE WITH. IRONSCALE OR BLOODWRACK Warlocks - 120 Shadowstalkers - 100 Heartrenders - 80 Lifetakers - 80 Heart of Fury - 80 Bladewind - 40 Bloodwrack Viper Snake - 40 Edited February 12, 2021 by jhamslam lifetakers points wrong 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Also our allies changed only COS And IDK 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Some interesting changes there. 40pta drop in bloodwrack, 30 in ironscale and like 60 for Sq on cauldron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Chumphammer said: Some interesting changes there. 40pta drop in bloodwrack, 30 in ironscale and like 60 for Sq on cauldron Really good imo, there were some awkward points in there, we can fit in a good amount now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, jhamslam said: @Chumphammer Snip 100pts for a Medusa? 160pts for a Shrine!?! 130pts for Blood Sisters! Both kinds of snakes battleline with Medusa OR Ironscale? Sign me up! My body is ready! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Woah, those are some big drops on our characters! I'm wondering if their rules have been changed much, or if GW simply identified them as being too expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Yeah 160pts for shrine is great. Many there's gonna be a lot of rage tomorrow and I think so far we just got a big buff. Spells/prayers depending we are back A+/S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Jaskier said: Woah, those are some big drops on our characters! I'm wondering if their rules have been changed much, or if GW simply identified them as being too expensive? Probably trying to make non morathi builds more viable. She isn't an auto include of you can get a Sq on cauldron, bloodwrack shrine, ironscale medusa and HQ for 620pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 The point drops make sense if the warscrolls are staying largely the same. I'm very excited to try out new builds now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) Yeah assuming their warscrolls don't change much, this is a massive improvement. My problem with DoK before was fitting stuff in without compromising on the crucial characters, now that's not a concern anymore. Definitely going to be running a lot more Khinerai and Shadowstalkers from now on (rarely had the room in my Hagg Narr builds before!) I'm pretty darn chuffed, both Slaanesh and DoK look to be coming out really well with these updates! Edited February 12, 2021 by Jaskier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 so Many Optiooooons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chumphammer said: so Many Optiooooons Which lets be honest is the best thing to have. I'll admit my list builds have gotten stale. But now I have so many options it's super great to think about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, DJMoose said: Which lets be honest is the best thing to have. I'll admit my list builds have gotten stale. But now I have so many options it's super great to think about. Yeah, gonna have a lot of fun righting lists. Tbh I think non morathi can be really solid. All depends on scroll changes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chumphammer said: Yeah, gonna have a lot of fun righting lists. Tbh I think non morathi can be really solid. All depends on scroll changes Might actually be worth getting a second Ironscale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, jhamslam said: Might actually be worth getting a second Ironscale Was there a discount for max bloodsisters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, jhamslam said: Might actually be worth getting a second Ironscale Literally what I started thinking about with that points drop. And with Blood Stalkers for a third battleline slot... Might be able to have two units of 20 Blood Sisters, each backed up by an Ironscale for run and charge shenanigans. It's making me giddy just thinking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Gotta wait until we have all the info, but I'm definitely a bit concerned that DoK will be too good with these point changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, DJMoose said: Literally what I started thinking about with that points drop. And with Blood Stalkers for a third battleline slot... Might be able to have two units of 20 Blood Sisters, each backed up by an Ironscale for run and charge shenanigans. It's making me giddy just thinking about. Hammer and anvil 20 snakes with ironscale 20 snakes with bloodwrack shrine hagg nar general and heart. 2nd medusa to MR ironscale strike squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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