Congratz Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 What do you guys think the new meta will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilddog Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Still real early but from the first few games I have gotten in, (got the GHB 2017 last night and play 4 games) I think things are a little more balanced and there will be a greater diversity of armies that are playable. At first we will see holdovers of stuff that was good in the last edition and is still good. I except to see the Khorne Murderhost throwing 90 Bloodletters forward a lot, the Stormcast Hammer and Atherstriking and the Kunnin Rukk still pew pewing. This will be mixed with some of the new armies that got strong new abilities like the Seraphon. Should be a fun time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzai Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Yeah, initially I predict a small shuffling of list configuration not a change in lists themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrycontra Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Whether meta will change or not is not the most important thing about ghb2017. What matters most is that for 100 % certainty I can say that the gap between low tier armies and top tier armies will narrow down considerably. Sure that boneplitter kunnin rukk might still be effective and kill that cowardly skaven army, but that army costs considerably more while skaven army (such as pestilens) was brought down in their cost (even if ever so slightly). I don't care if there is going to be new top tier army as long as the lower tier armies have genuinely good chance at combating that army. With that said, I predict SCE will be top tier in the upcoming meta as they received very little to no nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 #HordeMeta2017 is going to be a real thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 HORDES OF MORTAL-WOUNDING SPIDER-RIDERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 7 hours ago, angrycontra said: I predict SCE will be top tier in the upcoming meta as they received very little to no nerfs. Well ain't that a surprise Major victories against that lot should get double points. (I'm role-playing. Totally fine you hate on my enemies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamierk Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Skinks, so many skinks.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncshooter426 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I'm buying 3 boxes of spiderfang. All hail the venom cavalry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, ncshooter426 said: I'm buying 3 boxes of spiderfang. All hail the venom cavalry! Venom for the venom God. Hail the spider queen! Arachnoprobe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielFM Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 16 hours ago, angrycontra said: I predict SCE will be top tier in the upcoming meta as they received very little to no nerfs. They got basically no discounts (-20 for Tempestors and +20 for Javelin prosecutors could be a wash, but the latter were more usually fielded), while their battalions (which were part of what made them powerful in the first place) got hit hard. Plus no real benefit from Massive Regiments (30 liberators are expensive and unwieldy). I would consider that, everything considered, a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungrim Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 For a little while at least, hordes, hordes everywhere. Folks will take advantage of the max unit discounts to counter shooting and take objectives. Whether that will last? Who knows. There's some amazing, cheap monsters floating about now - wouldn't be too surprised if eventually the horde counter will be big gribblies capable of munching through large units. All that said, shooting is still shooting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Remeber too that the "no 2x the same item" hurt a bit the stormcast. No more double mirroshield/lantern of the tempest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielFM Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, ledha said: Remeber too that the "no 2x the same item" hurt a bit the stormcast. No more double mirroshield/lantern of the tempest. Well, good luck getting more than one Artifact in the first place with the new battalion prices, I think battalions will be rarely seen in tournament Stormcast lists. Why did they introduced the rule in this edition is something I will never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, DanielFM said: Well, good luck getting more than one Artifact in the first place with the new battalion prices, I think battalions will be rarely seen in tournament Stormcast lists. Why did they introduced the rule in this edition is something I will never understand. aetherstrike force is cheap enough to be affordable i think. And a vanguard wing with a big blob of 30 liberators will be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, ledha said: aetherstrike force is cheap enough to be affordable i think. And a vanguard wing with a big blob of 30 liberators will be seen Aetherstrike remains a top battalion, and the points increase won't hurt it much. With a few Gryph-hounds and a Castellant you still get everything you want from this battalion with points left over for other things (such as a Protector screen, my personal favourite), without giving up anything of what made it good in the previous edition. As for the 30 Liberator blob, that idea is going to die out fast, once people realise the actual footprint of that unit, and how completely impossible it's going to be to ever port it around if your opponent is even remotely aware of board control and table space. Multiple units of 5-10 is still the way going forward. I fully expect Skyborne Slayers to make a return, and Vanguard Wing to die down. Back on topic, I think the new meta will consist heavily of three things; speed, hordes and less monsters. Shooting is still going to be good, but less dominant in a horde meta, and the new battleplans will require far more board control than the old ones. Being able to cover ground fast with lots of wounds is going to be imporant, and keeping those wounds alive since you're spread out more is going to become key. Alpha strikes and deathstars will still be dangerous, but less so since the objective play cost of these strategies will make you vulnerable to losses even when you destroys everything on the table. Quick prediction; the winners for destruction are Bonesplitterz, Spidergfang and Gore-gruntas. The losers are BCR, Gutbusters and Megabrutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Payce said: Being able to cover ground fast with lots of wounds is going to be imporant, and keeping those wounds alive since you're spread out more is going to become key ... Quick prediction; the winners for destruction are ... Spiderfang This bodes well for my spider army protected by many grots and trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burf Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 22 hours ago, ledha said: Remeber too that the "no 2x the same item" hurt a bit the stormcast. No more double mirroshield/lantern of the tempest. Not very many lists actually cared about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSDdeloach Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 3:54 PM, Sheriff said: HORDES OF MORTAL-WOUNDING SPIDER-RIDERS Really REALLY like this IDEA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broche Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 i expect ironjawz to be quite dominant. they were good before, and they got some love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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