Duke of Gisoreux

Here's my Cities of Sigmar army collection. I only used the miniatures as they are supposed to be. This means I didn't use "count as" things like Swordmasters as Executioners or something like that. Doing so would approximately double the army's size. Anvilgard, Greywater Fastness, Hammerhal and Phoenicium are about 32000 points. Hallowheart and Tempest's Eye are around 35000 and Living City is at 39000. 3 Freeguild General on Griffon 2 Freeguild General 1 Steam Tank with Commander 1 Battlemage on Griffon 24 Battlemage 1 Celestial Hurricanum with Celestial Battlemage 1 Luminark of Hysh with White Battlemage 3 Dreadlord on Black Dragon 2 Anointed 2 Black Ark Fleetmaster 9 Assassin 1 Nomad Prince 8 Sorceress 14 Warden King 3 Runelord 5 Cogsmith 11 Demigryph Knights 26 Freeguild Handgunners 10 Freeguild Pistoliers 10 Freeguild Outriders 110 Freeguild Guard 40 Flagellants 2 Helblaster Volley Gun 1 Helstorm Rocket Battery 117 Dreadspears 21 Bleakswords 101 Darkshards 40 Black Guard 45 Executioners 35 Drakespawn Knights 2 Drakespawn Chariots 2 War Hydra 33 Phoenix Guard 2 Flamespyre Phoenix 1 Frostheart Phoenix 66 Black Ark Corsairs 1 Kharibdyss 25 Dark Riders 10 Shadow Warriors 29 Sisters of the Watch 60 Eternal Guard 40 Wildwood Rangers 11 Wild Riders 5 Sisters of the Thorn 20 Longbeards 10 Hammerers 30 Ironbreakers 10 Irondrakes 2 Gyrocopters 1 Gyrobombers 1 Celestant-Prime, Hammer of Sigmar 1 Vandus Hammerhand 1 Aventis Firestrike, Magister of Hammerhal 1 Averon Stormsire 1 Gavriel Sureheart 1 Neave Blacktalon 1 Lord-Celestant on Dracoth 1 Lord-Celestant 2 Lord-Relictor 1 Lord-Castellant 1 Lord-Veritant 1 Lord-Aquilor on Gryph Charger 1 Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon 1 Lord-Arcanum on Gryph Charger 1 Lord-Exorcist 1 Lord-Ordinator 2 Knight-Incantor 1 Knight-Questor 1 Errant-Questor 1 Knight-Heraldor 1 Knight-Vexillor 1 Knight-Azyros 1 Knight-Venator 25 Liberators 5 Judicators 12 Retributors 5 Decimators 9 Prosecutors 7 Evocators 3 Evocators on Celestial Dracolines 6 Castigators 10 Sequitors 3 Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows 3 Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows 3 Vanguard-Palladors 2 Fulminators 1 Celestar-Ballista 18 Gryph Hounds 6 Aetherwings 2 Stormsire's Cursebreakers 3 Steelheart's Champions 3 The Farstriders 1 Alarielle the Everqueen 1 Drycha Hamadreth 1 Ylthari 1 Spirit of Durthu 5 Treelord Ancient 3 Ylthari's Guardians 1 Arch-Revenant 2 Branchwraith 4 Branchwych 126 Dryads 10 Spite-Revenants 5 Tree-Revenants 3 Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Greatswords 3 Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Greatbows 3 Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Scythes 5 Treelord 1 Brokk Grungsson 1 Bjorgen Thundrik 2 Arkanaut Admiral 1 Aetheric Navigator 1 Aether-Khemist 1 Endrinmaster 50 Arkanaut Company 3 Skywardens 3 Endrinriggers 5 Grundstok Thunderers 1 Grundstok Gunhauler 2 Arkanaut Frigate 1 Arkanaut Ironclad 4 Thundrik's Profiteers 1 Aetherguard Windrunners 0 Charrwind Beasthunters 1 Greywater Artillery Company 1 Hammerhalian Lancers 1 Phoenix Flight 1 Viridian Pathfinders 20 Whitefire Retinue

You are wrong. RAW it's legal to have 2 CoS + 1 KO + 1 SC in a Tempest's Eye army or 2 CoS + 1 Sylvaneth + 1 SC in a Living City army.

Free Peoples Allegiance is already out with CoS. Actually it is not playable any more as all Freeguild warscrolls (except Freeguild Archers) lost their Free Peoples keyword.

So now you know how it feels like when playing Bretonnia. Oh wait, most Bretonnian knights are even worse for their points.

I compiled the following list from the GMG review. Helblaster Volley Gun 1 1 120 120 Artillery Helstorm Rocket Battery 1 1 130 130 Artillery Bleakswords 10 40 90 320 Battleline Darkshards 10 40 100 400 Battleline Dreadspears 10 40 90 320 Battleline Eternal Guard 10 30 130 330 Battleline Freeguild Crossbowmen 10 30 100 300 Battleline Freeguild Guard 10 40 80 280 Battleline Freeguild Handgunners 10 30 100 300 Battleline Ironbreakers 10 30 130 330 Battleline Longbeards 10 30 110 270 Battleline Anointed 1 1 100 100 Leader Assassin 1 1 80 80 Leader Battlemage 1 1 90 90 Leader Black Ark Fleetmaster 1 1 60 60 Leader Cogsmith 1 1 60 60 Leader Freeguild General 1 1 100 100 Leader Nomad Prince 1 1 120 120 Leader Runelord 1 1 90 90 Leader Sorceress 1 1 90 90 Leader Warden King 1 1 110 110 Leader Anointed on Flamespyre Phoenix 1 1 300 300 Leader, Behemoth Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix 1 1 320 320 Leader, Behemoth Battlemage on Griffon 1 1 300 300 Leader, Behemoth Celestial Hurricanum with Celestial Battlemage 1 1 280 280 Leader, Behemoth Dreadlord on Black Dragon 1 1 300 300 Leader, Behemoth Freeguild General on Griffon 1 1 320 320 Leader, Behemoth Luminark of Hysh with White Battlemage 1 1 270 270 Leader, Behemoth Sorceress on Black Dragon 1 1 300 300 Leader, Behemoth Steam Tank with Commander 1 1 250 250 Leader, Behemoth Celestial Hurricanum 1 1 220 220 Behemoth Flamespyre Phoenix 1 1 200 200 Behemoth Frostheart Phoenix 1 1 220 220 Behemoth Kharibdyss 1 1 170 170 Behemoth Battleline in ANVILGARD army Luminark of Hysh 1 1 210 210 Behemoth Steam Tank 1 1 200 200 Behemoth Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if STEAM TANK HERO general War Hydra 1 1 170 170 Behemoth Battleline in ANVILGARD army Black Ark Corsairs 10 40 80 240 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if SCOURGE PRIVATEERS general Black Guard 10 30 120 320 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if DARKLING COVEN general Dark Riders 5 20 110 360 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if SHADOWBLADE general Demigryph Knights 3 12 180 720 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if FREEGUILD general Drakespawn Chariots 1 3 80 210 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if ORDER SERPENTIS general Drakespawn Knights 5 20 170 680 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if ORDER SERPENTIS general Executioners 10 30 130 330 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if DARKLING COVEN general Flagellants 10 40 80 280 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if HUMAN general Freeguild Greatswords 10 30 160 420 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if FREEGUILD general Freeguild Outriders 5 20 100 400 Battleline in TEMPEST'S EYE army Freeguild Pistoliers 5 20 100 400 Battleline in TEMPEST'S EYE army Gyrobombers 1 3 80 210 Gyrocopters 1 3 70 180 Hammerers 10 30 140 360 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if DISPOSSESSED general Irondrakes 10 30 150 450 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if DUARDIN general Phoenix Guard 10 30 160 420 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if PHOENIX TEMPLE general Scourgerunner Chariots 1 3 60 150 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if SCOURGE PRIVATEERS general Shadow Warriors 10 30 110 330 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if SHADOWBLADE general Sisters of the Thorn 5 20 130 520 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if WANDERER general Sisters of the Watch 10 20 160 320 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if WANDERER general Wild Riders 5 20 130 520 Wildwood Rangers 10 30 130 390 Battleline in CITIES OF SIGMAR army if WANDERER general Aetherguard Windrunners 120 Warscroll Battalion 1 TEMPEST'S EYE Freeguild General on Griffon, 3-6 units TEMPEST'S EYE Freeguild Outriders or Pistoliers, 0-2 TEMPEST'S EYE Grundstok Gunhaulers Charrwind Beasthunters 120 Warscroll Battalion 1 ANVILGARD Black Ark Fleetmaster, 3 units ANVILGARD Black Ark Corsairs, 1-3 ANVILGARD Scourgerunner Chariots, 0-1 ANVILGARD Kharibdyss Greywater Artillery Company 120 Warscroll Battalion 1 GREYWATER FASTNESS Cogsmith, 2-4 GREYWATER FASTNESS Helstorm Rocket Batteries or Helblaster Volley Guns Hammerhalian Lancers 140 Warscroll Battalion 1 HAMMERHAL Freeguild General on Griffon, 3-6 units HAMMERHAL Demigryph Knights Phoenix Flight 130 Warscroll Battalion 1-2 PHOENICIUM FROSTHEART PHOENIX, 1-2 PHOENICIUM FLAMESPYRE PHOENIX Viridian Pathfinders 140 Warscroll Battalion 1 LIVING CITY Nomad Prince, 3 units LIVING CITY Wildwood Rangers, 0-1 unit LIVING CITY Wild Riders Whitefire Retinue 140 Warscroll Battalion 2-4 HALLOWHEART HERO WIZARDS Allies: Daughters of Khaine, Fyreslayers, Idoneth Deepkin, Kharadron Overlords (except Tempest's Eye), Sylvaneth (except Living City and Greywater Fastness)

Actually Steam Tank is a War Machine and a Behemoth, but you are right about the order.

The picture reveals more than what is obvious at first sight. I think it even reveals which units are unconditional Battlelines and which are conditional Battlelines. The first 9 pictures show the unconditional Battlelines which are presented in alphabetical order: Bleakswords Darkshards Dreadspears Eternal Guard Freeguild Crossbowmen Freeguild Guard Freeguild Handgunners Ironbreakers Longbeards After that there are 18 conditional Battlelines which are (also in alphabetical order): Black Ark Corsairs Dark Riders Demigryph Knights Drakespawn Chariots Drakespawn Knights Executioners Flagellants Freeguild Greatswords Freeguild Outriders Freeguild Pistoliers Hammerers Irondrakes Phoenix Guard Scourgerunner Chariots Shadow Warriors Sisters of the Thorn Sisters of the Watch Wildwood Rangers The last three are Behemoths that can also be Battleline: Steam Tank Kharibdyss War Hydra

You are not alone. It's similar here. I have 10 Tomb Banshees and 13 Cairn Wraiths for the same reason.

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I created a list with units that probably get squatted and how they could be used as alternate units that will probably still exist: Unit Use as Warrior Priest Excelsior Warpriest or Freeguild General Witch Hunter Freeguild General War Altar of Sigmar Celestial Hurricanum or Luminark of Hysh Unforged Grimwrath Berzerker Warriors Longbeards Quarrellers Freeguild Crossbowmen Thunderers Freeguild Handgunners or Irondrakes Archmage Battlemage or Sorceress Loremaster Battlemage or Sorceress Archmage on Dragon Sorceress on Black Dragon Drakeseer Sorceress on Black Dragon Swordmasters Executioners Freeguild Archers Freeguild Guard or Shadow Warriors Cannon Helblaster Volley Gun Organ Gun Helblaster Volley Gun Gunmaster Cogsmith White Lion Chariots Drakespawn Chariots White Lions Wildwood Rangers Dragon Noble Anointed or Freeguild General Dragonlord Dreadlord on Black Dragon Dragon Blades Drakespawn Knights Reavers Dark Riders Skywarden Scourgerunner Chariots or Grundstok Gunhauler High Warden Freeguild General on Griffon Chariots Scourgerunner Chariots Skycutters Scourgerunner Chariots or Grundstok Gunhauler Spireguard Black Ark Corsairs, Darkshards or Dreadspears Spellweaver Battlemage or Sorceress Wayfinder Nomad Prince Waystrider Nomad Prince Waywatcher Nomad Prince Glade Guard Shadow Warriors I am not sure about the units from Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower whether they get squatted or not. If so I would recommend the following alternatives: Unit Use as Mistweaver Saih Sorceress Tenebrael Shard Assassin Excelsior Warpriest Freeguild General

I expect my Cities of Sigmar force to be at least 80,000+ points and 3,000+ miniatures, so I won't be able to post a picture that shows all of them as the miniatures won't fit on my table... 😆

Right, but their profiles got removed again by GHB 2019 errata (except Master with Battle Standard).

Yes, indeed.

of course I would save my wife and my two children first, then my Green Knight and the Bretonnian 5th edition army book cover converted Knight (which is my avatar here).

Time for another collection update: The total just passed the 88% mark. But today I achieved a milestone as Grand Alliance Death is at 100% now! This means as of now I own everything from the Death Grand Alliance, which includes all Flesh-Eater Courts, Legions of Nagash, Nighthaunt and also the compendium units from Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts. Grand Alliance Death total is more than 40,000 points currently. There is also a Youtube video from some weeks ago that shows my whole collection (even though it's in German you can still enjoy all the miniatures):

Right, I use him as a Dragonlord.

That's a really bad comparison example. The Slaughterpriest is not out of scale, but is supposed to be really huge, like a 2m+ tall human. Compare him to other Blades of Khorne models like Bloodreavers for example and you will see that he is much taller than them although they are both AoS releases.

Short answer, I hope so and I am quite sure we will benefit from it more or less. Long answer: Cities of Sigmar will include 7 allegiances. We can be quite sure that these will be one for each of the 7 cities from the Firestorm expansion. But what does this mean to Bretonnia? Hammerhal, one of these 7 cities from Firestorm, currently allows you to use any ORDER unit (except SERAPHON) within their allegiance. This means you are allowed to use all Bretonnian units in a Hammerhal army. When they don't change the prerequisite, then Bretonnia could possibly get a fully usable allegiance ability. This would be the best possible outcome. But to be honest, I doubt that they don't change that. But even when they change faction keywords that are allowed in certain city armies, there is still much room to play Bretonnians as FREE PEOPLES or ORDER DRACONIS for example. So there will be something usable whatever they do. Question is only to what extent. This really makes me hope that with the battletome release cavalry will perform as well as it is supposed to which is good news for us.

Just wanted to share this picture of my rebased Bretonnian force: I even converted a Bretonnian Lord on Dragon to be used as a Dragonlord:

A Battletome without warscrolls? That's not going to happen.

I don't think "Battleline if"will be based on allegiances, but will be tied to your general like this: Phoenix Guard: Battleline if General has the ANOINTED keyword Dragon Blades: Battleline if General has the ORDER DRACONIS keyword Greatswords/Demigryph Knights: Battleline if General has the FREE PEOPLES keyword etc.

There's no difference between higher damage characteristic and higher chance to hit. Both inflict more damage when calculating average damage. The Field Trebuchet for example does double damage on average against 7+ models compared to a single model. 7+ models include 20+ models, so it's even better.

Wrong. As the hit chance increases the more models the unit has, it is definitely better against large units. Against unit of 6 or less models it does less damage as the chance to do no damage at all is higher.

5. Field Trebuchet (auto hits units of 7+ models) Demigryph Knights are not allowed in a Great Company as they are not FREEGUILD.