Galas Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 This its a stupid question but that just strike me talking with a friend. The typical special weapon option of a warscrol... can you give it to the squad leader? I have all my miniatures mounted with the special weapon in another guy, an thats why he its always the last to die after the champion. But if its true that I can give them to the champion and just have 1 more attack with the special weapon, I'll fell very stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yes you can give them to the champion it's in the FAQsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Good to know before I build my next 10 blood warriors PD: T.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yeah man standard. I do belive the champion can also for film the role of standard bearer. Don't see why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Thats actually a good question. Going RAW, the champion of the unit can be the musician or the standard bearer. Has this been FAQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Further question is, can a standard bearer also take a special weapon , nothing says no. Also, don't forget the skullreapers champion can also be the great weapon weidling guy as it's in addition to his other attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Hmm... going further the rabit hole. Can the champion be the standard bearer, the musician, and have too the special weapon? Going RAW, its actually posible. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Galas said: Hmm... going further the rabit hole. Can the champion be the standard bearer, the musician, and have too the special weapon? Going RAW, its actually posible. No? I suppose from a modelling point of view he could have the axe in both hands, the drum on his back with drumsticks operated by ropes on his feet and the standard sticking out of the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 I was actually having the mental image of a chaos champion with a giant blade and a banner at his back. The musician part brokes the awesomeness of the scene, but this its actually interesting if its posible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderingrogue1 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 works a little better for nurgle, the banner has brass bells on it...sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said: I suppose from a modelling point of view he could have the axe in both hands, the drum on his back with drumsticks operated by ropes on his feet and the standard sticking out of the top Not entirely sure I like the idea of my blood warrior champion looking like this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourSwordisMine Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 You can by the rules yes. I dont however as I use the champion from the Starter as the leader for my mob of 15 Blood Warriors. To me, it doesnt seem right to give the special weapons to the unit leaders. I feel the same way with my Stormcast as well. Just personal preference and self-moderation. I also only take 1 in 5 Maces with my Paladins as I feel the 2-5 is not sporting or fun for my opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlzee Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 To me, it doesnt seem right to give the special weapons to the unit leaders. Feels right to me that the most badass chap in the unit would demand the most badass weapon available. Especially in a Khorne army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haanz Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Feels right to me that the most badass chap in the unit would demand the most badass weapon available. Especially in a Khorne armyI 100% get the apprehension though, and I think it's got a lot to do with how the special weapons are never presented that way in box art, etc. Additionally, the units number of special weapons scales with the unit probably has an effect too - so, sometimes you could have a unit with two Goreblades, and the Champion no longer feels unique. Sometimes the special weapons don't synergise well with the Champions bonus either - a Starsoul Mace is wasted on a Paladin champion, for example. And then there's the fact it's an upgrade for any model in the unit, rather than specifically the champion - but doesn't exclude him - which is a bit of a new way of thinking for GW games IMO; the nonspecific wording contrasted with the change results in confusion - not unlike when AoS first came out and people weren't sure if they could shoot into/out of combat, etc. Consequently, to use 40K Space Marines as an example, people tend to see the weapon upgrades as more like a units plasma gun than giving a Sergeant a power sword or something. When in reality, it's like both and it's like neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbeardboss Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 only a few things target models in a unit but it would be funny when a stormcast dragon eats your champion, standard and horn blower in 1 roll of 3+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Its the price I'm willing to pay for having my champion with a mega-weapon and the banner at his back! A Giant can too pick a model and just "kill" it throwing it in his pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Similar question: the chaos chariot warscroll sez that "[a] unit of Chaos Chariots consists of any number of models" and "[t]he leader of this unit is the Exalted Charioteer. His attacks with a Chaos Greatblade or Chaos War-flail hit on 3+ rather than 4+." If I am running a unit consisting of a single chariot, that one dude is de-facto the Exalted Charioteer, right? It feels like it's going against old WHFB logic in the same way but I can't see anything preventing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, sandlemad said: Similar question: the chaos chariot warscroll sez that "[a] unit of Chaos Chariots consists of any number of models" and "[t]he leader of this unit is the Exalted Charioteer. His attacks with a Chaos Greatblade or Chaos War-flail hit on 3+ rather than 4+." If I am running a unit consisting of a single chariot, that one dude is de-facto the Exalted Charioteer, right? It feels like it's going against old WHFB logic in the same way but I can't see anything preventing it. Yup, if you're only rocking a single chariot in a unit, they'll be the champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cheers! Well now, hitting on a 3+ is a pleasant surprise for a fire-and-forget unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 So if you have more than 1 chariot don't have them in the same unit so they all get that bonus and then if they are khorne marked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, Praecautus said: So if you have more than 1 chariot don't have them in the same unit so they all get that bonus and then if they are khorne marked... Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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