Gecktron Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, Trokair said: So a Medusa, 10 to 15 Sisters and 10 Stalkers would be a viable army at 1000p. Good to know, thank you. How important is the Medusa shrine verses just the Medusa? I don’t really like the shrine and would rather just have the Medusa on the ground. Im looking at the Temple Nest Battalion myself right now. I thinking about dropping 5 of the Blood Sisters and taking either Witch Aelfes/SoS or a unit of Khinerai Heartrenders instead. I think either more bodies or more mobility would help this list. In regards to the Medusa, I would always take the shrine. For 20 points more you get the Aura of Agony (more mortal wounds) the goadstaffs of the shrinekeepers and more than double her wounds. All for trading 2" movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofpaddsmar Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Also noticed a mistake in the tactics bit says a slaughter queen can use her dance of doom prayer to get 8 attacks doing d3 damage each. I may be blind but cannot see a dance of doom prayer anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, ageofpaddsmar said: Also noticed a mistake in the tactics bit says a slaughter queen can use her dance of doom prayer to get 8 attacks doing d3 damage each. I may be blind but cannot see a dance of doom prayer anywhere It's only for Slaughter Queen on foot not on Cauldron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofpaddsmar Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Yeah just found it booooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 It would be way too good on Cauldron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowspite Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, DantePQ said: It would be way too good on Cauldron Besides, if she tried dancing up there in those heels, she'd probably end up going head-first into the cauldron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Out of interest anyone know if the old dark eldar wych shoulder blades fit into the witches for the Daughters? I've seen that the plastic kit arms fit into the elves pretty well, but I can't find anything on the shoulder blades (but that might just be poor googling and tagging taking place) For reference I mean bits like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DARK-ELDAR-WYCH-SHOULDER-PAD-2-1998-OOP/251819350860?hash=item3aa19a5b4c:g:tV8AAOSw8d9U0MTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Kaleun said: because people will be asking about what to build for the first time: What do you think? Khinerai: Heartrenders > lifetakers Melusai: Stalkers < Sisters Ladies: Witch Elves > Sisters of Slaughter I mean it cant be answered that easily, as you need list concepts and must take the battalion requirements in consideration. I write that just for a basic direction of thinking when you start Daughers of Khaine. #needthatformyself I have to disagree with the Witch elves > Sisters of the Slaughter. The rest are fine as a rule of thumb, but that one is too close to really call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURF1 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, DantePQ said: It would be way too good on Cauldron a slaughter cauldron with that ability would do like 18 damage to a 4+ save lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quina2525 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I see the Temple nest Battalion question has been answered, but in terms of Taking Blood Sisters as battle line, you need a Bloodwrack Medusa as a general. Does that mean it has to be the model on foot or can you use a bloodwrack shrine? Does this Keyword in bold come into effect? I know it doesn't let you do it in the Azyr app, but the battle line stuff unlocking is trash. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaMage Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Yes you can use the Bloodwrack Shrine. The Shrine has the keyword, and the requirement is in bold meaning it's the keyword not the unit that is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 What would be a good list with just the snake ladies and maybe the bat ladies? I like those models the most lol Shadow Patrol looks fun too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood&skulls Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Can anybody tell me what can be built from the blood coven box? 10 witch aelves /sos hag queen on foot bloodwrack shrine/cauldron Medusa in shrine or on foot slaughter queen? Is that correct? I’m planning on getting two and magnetising then so I can field two cauldrons, two shrines, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecktron Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Malakithe said: What would be a good list with just the snake ladies and maybe the bat ladies? I like those models the most lol Shadow Patrol looks fun too... Looks like the Temple Nest battalion is the way to go for Melusai-heavy lists. A bloodwrack medusa and 4 units of melusai (2x Sisters and 2x Stalkers) are a good core. You can add two more melusai units to the battalion when chosing the Khailebron cult as your temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burf Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Malakithe said: What would be a good list with just the snake ladies and maybe the bat ladies? I like those models the most lol Shadow Patrol looks fun too... If you want 100% only snakes and bats(and blood cauldron because let's be real) I recommend Without Morathi: Khailebron Shrine Double Spell Mindrazor Hagdron Double Prayer Exploding 6s heal D3 Medusa -Bravery 20 Blood sisters 5 Blood Sisters 5 Blood Sisters 5 Blood Stalkers 5 Blood Stalkers 10 Heart Renders Temple Nest With Morathi Hagg Narr Morathi Mind Razor Hagdron Double Prayer D3 Heal, Exploding 6s Hag +1 Blood Rites. Shrine Double Spell Shroud 10 Blood Sisters 5 Blood Sisters 10 Witch Elves 5 Blood Stalkers 5 Blood Stalkers Temple Nest 10 Heartrenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 @Blood&skulls I would go for Slaughter Queen on Cauldron and Medusa on Shrine if you want to magnetize it - I did it. Then Witches with extra knives are safe bet I like SoS much better but have Witches nonetheless in every build. If you can build hag queen on foot as well go for it. @Malakithe I believe Temple Nest could be very strong especially in smaller games but you could start with it and then expand into witches if you want but for 1200 you can get Shrine, 15 Sisters, 10 Stalkers and two units of Heartrenders which should be awesome maybe you will be able to squeeze Hag as well. @Burf so far I like Morathi a lot, she's a lot of points but flexible and without her you need two wizards anyway (which you can cut with her in an army) and in Kheliborn she is - 2 to hit with shooting so unless you are playing against some crazy Changehost she should be fine blasting spells and then changing when needed. But I guess we will see some crazy builds without her as well as I think that horde approach (if someone has/will buy so many witches) could be ultra strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood&skulls Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, DantePQ said: @Blood&skulls I would go for Slaughter Queen on Cauldron and Medusa on Shrine if you want to magnetize it - I did it. Then Witches with extra knives are safe bet I like SoS much better but have Witches nonetheless in every build. If you can build hag queen on foot as well go for it. @Malakithe I believe Temple Nest could be very strong especially in smaller games but you could start with it and then expand into witches if you want but for 1200 you can get Shrine, 15 Sisters, 10 Stalkers and two units of Heartrenders which should be awesome maybe you will be able to squeeze Hag as well. Thanks for the advice mate but I just wanted to confirm that you do get a medusa, slaughter queen and hag queen in the box? And the ability to construct a bloodwrack shrine and a cauldron all from one box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Yes ideally you can assemble for example :Bloodwrack Shrine, Slaughter Queen or Hag Queen on foot,Avatar on foot or Cauldron with HagQueen/Slaughter Queen + Medusa on Foot and any combination with magnetizing parts. It's possible to get Cauldron, Shrine, Medusa, Avatar and Slaughter Queen or Hag Queen from that kit with magnets. Also with so many bits it would be easy to get some extra bits and assemble extra HagQueen/Slaughter Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood&skulls Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, DantePQ said: Yes ideally you can assemble for example :Bloodwrack Shrine, Slaughter Queen or Hag Queen on foot,Avatar on foot or Cauldron with HagQueen/Slaughter Queen + Medusa on Foot and any combination with magnetizing parts. It's possible to get Cauldron, Shrine, Medusa, Avatar and Slaughter Queen or Hag Queen from that kit with magnets. Also with so many bits it would be easy to get some extra bits and assemble extra HagQueen/Slaughter Queen. Perfect thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkspear Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 My contribution to the war effort. Still wip. Ran out of paint while shut in at home. Hopefully can get supplies soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzel Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I made a list I plan to build. I think I will be taking Khailebron as my city. I like the 'deep strike' command trait. Also -1 to hit against, is very strong in a meer list. Morathi will be at -2 to hit against ranged attacks. I like the cauldron guard with the ability to appear within 9" the +1 on charges and rerolling 1's will help a lot! I am not sure about the warlocks yet. Some bow-snakes also look nice. Also, of anyone has some tips about the artefact I could take. That would be awesome. I am learning toward more spells for the medusa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 At 1000 points I am thinking for Hag Naggar. Melusai (mindrazor) @ 140 Hag queen (reroll invuln) @ 60 20x blood sisters @ 480 5x Blood stalkers @ 160 5x Khinerai heartrender @ 80 5x Khinerai heartrender @ 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Come on warscroll builder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksmash Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 So based on wording I'm thinking of running this; Temple: Khailbron (-1 to Hit & Teleport Command Trait) Shadow Compact Battalion - 80 Slaughter Queen - 100 (Know 2 prayers) 5 Liberators - 100 - Battleline (1 Grand Hammer) 5 Liberators - 100 - Battleline (1 Grand Hammer) 5 Judicators - 160 (1 Shockbolt Bow, 4 Skybolt Bow) 3 Prosecutors - 100 (Celestial Hammers & Shields) 30 Witch Elves - 270 - Battleline (2 Sacrificial Knives) 30 Witch Elves - 270 - Battleline (2 Sacrificial Knives) 5 Bloodstalkers - 160 20 Heartrenders - 320 Non-Battalion Units Hag Queen - 60 (Chalice) Bloodwrack Medusa - 140 (+1 to Cast Shadow Spells), Mind Razor Bloodwrack Medusa - 140 So 4 drops which isn't amazing but is pretty decent. Dang near auto-wins if it goes first against armies without screens. With screens you can obliterate the screens with a turn 1 charge from 30 witches since you teleport, stringing back to be within range for spells, brews, and prayers. Make sure you're within 6" of a stormcast unit and then proceed to move. You're now within 3" with the majority of a 30 model unit of witches. You can next turn repeat the trick if you need to or you can deepstrike 20 heartrenders and double shoot them doing 1 damage each with rend -2. Lots of bodies, lots of tools, and very little of it tied to characters. The other option has one less caster, 10 less witches and 5 less heart renders but has a 9 man unit of prosecutors and a castellant to give it a potential 2+ reroll 1's save flying tank unit. This is completely different from my pure DoK which includes Hyrda's as allies because theme is cool. But I think it's super solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burf Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, Hulksmash said: So based on wording I'm thinking of running this; Temple: Khailbron (-1 to Hit & Teleport Command Trait) Shadow Compact Battalion - 80 Slaughter Queen - 100 (Know 2 prayers) 5 Liberators - 100 - Battleline (1 Grand Hammer) 5 Liberators - 100 - Battleline (1 Grand Hammer) 5 Judicators - 160 (1 Shockbolt Bow, 4 Skybolt Bow) 3 Prosecutors - 100 (Celestial Hammers & Shields) 30 Witch Elves - 270 - Battleline (2 Sacrificial Knives) 30 Witch Elves - 270 - Battleline (2 Sacrificial Knives) 5 Bloodstalkers - 160 20 Heartrenders - 320 Non-Battalion Units Hag Queen - 60 (Chalice) Bloodwrack Medusa - 140 (+1 to Cast Shadow Spells), Mind Razor Bloodwrack Medusa - 140 So 4 drops which isn't amazing but is pretty decent. Dang near auto-wins if it goes first against armies without screens. With screens you can obliterate the screens with a turn 1 charge from 30 witches since you teleport, stringing back to be within range for spells, brews, and prayers. Make sure you're within 6" of a stormcast unit and then proceed to move. You're now within 3" with the majority of a 30 model unit of witches. You can next turn repeat the trick if you need to or you can deepstrike 20 heartrenders and double shoot them doing 2 damage each with rend -1. Lots of bodies, lots of tools, and very little of it tied to characters. The other option has one less caster, 10 less witches and 5 less heart renders but has a 9 man unit of prosecutors and a castellant to give it a potential 2+ reroll 1's save flying tank unit. This is completely different from my pure DoK which includes Hyrda's as allies because theme is cool. But I think it's super solid. It's a really really solid list but i think you're really going to struggle with both positioning and battleshock. Getting witchbrew on the TPing WEs is going to be very, very difficult against someone who knows what you're trying to do. It's a 12" line of WEs if your opponent puts their valuable unit on the line perfectly across from the hag queen. You're also relying on 6=< wound heroes. Even at -1 that's gonna be scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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