meet.the.doctor Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Did you notice that playing in Shyish in new Malign Portents campaign our general can generate additional attacks for a nearby unit (12”)? Arrer Boys shooting 120 dice AGAIN! I am going to send Sigmar and Nagash back to where they belong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broche Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Malakree said: Difference is that the gargant doesn't take up a hero slot and if you are after something to die, so you can get the +1 on your Morboys, then a gargant or two is a cheap and effective way to get it. In that regard the added survivability of the wyvern is actually a negative not a positive True, but i find counterproductive to pay point for a model that i want dying. It's also easier to ignore the giant (he is less threatening). If you're opponent really don't want you to get the +1 to hit he can just ignore him. If he find it anoying then he can just easily kill him. Also considering the fact that you get the +1 by killing an opposing monster, i find it hard to justify him at 170 pts... I would rather go for Mangler squig at 240, at least he hit for real! But model look nice, he is fun to play in more casual game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I think if you were going to do that I'd actually splash for 2 Gargants at 340 rather than a Wyvern at 240. For 100 points it gives you a bunch more and together they are far less likely to be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymajq Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Any good models to count-as wyvern? It's a finecast model and a big one at that = huge no no for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meet.the.doctor Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I played Wyvern last night and it was much more amazing than Giant. With Mystic Shield, Kunnin Beast Spirit and re-rolls from Boss Shield he is really survivable. The re-rolls give a lot, I didn’t imagine. My morboyz were waiting just behind wyvern waiting for it to die, but it was not possible for 2 rounds of combat with 3 Stormvermin and some other rats! But the MVP were again Big Stabbas flying 15” on Hand of Gork. Chewing one unit after another, and getting to enemy lines in 2 turns. people still think Arrerboyz are the only threat in our army and concentrate all their firepower on those poor ******;) Big Wurrgog mask again failed killing my Wardokk. But fortunately we were playing Malign Portents scenario in Shyish and the guy came back from dead the next turn. PS. Malign Portents are great - play it while the campaign lasts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymajq Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 How many big stabbas do you run? Can I get away with a unit of 4, or do I need more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broche Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 @meet.the.doctor: look you had a fun game what was your list? i see a wurgog on balewind, did it work well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'm also curious about your big stabba usage. How do they do? Do they tend to get shot to death? Also, nice movement trays - where did you acquire those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svnvaldez Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 http://elementgames.co.uk/element-essentials/element-movement-trays https://www.ageofhobby.com/shop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, svnvaldez said: http://elementgames.co.uk/element-essentials/element-movement-trays https://www.ageofhobby.com/shop/ Thnx very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 9:17 AM, Mikeymajq said: Any good models to count-as wyvern? It's a finecast model and a big one at that = huge no no for me. There is a Mierce promo on at the moment to buy one, get one free on monsters. I prefer their sculpt anyway (GW one looks pretty dated imo), and you can choose which weapon loadout. This link is the one with choppa and shield, whereas I believe the GW kit is only two choppas? Minor conversion work, but still... http://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_blg_bnl_cha_045_000 Apparently their resin is awesome and very detailed (never bought it myself, but had it recommended by friends). I'm interested to hear what others think of Mierce resin if they have direct experience with it? They also have some very cool Orc Shamans which would make nice alternatives to multiple identical Wardokks: http://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_blg_bnl_cha_048_000 http://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_blg_bnl_cha_050_000 http://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_blg_bnl_cha_011_000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meet.the.doctor Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 10:54 AM, Mikeymajq said: How many big stabbas do you run? Can I get away with a unit of 4, or do I need more? I run 4. 2 from sets, 2 custom made. I would run more if it was not so hard to build them. the list: Allegiance: BonesplitterzLeadersManiak Weirdnob (120) - Kunnin Beast spirit Savage Big Boss (120)- General- Stonecleava- Trait: Squirmy Warpaint Wardokk (100)- Artefact: Big Wurrgog Mask - Lore of the Savage Waaagh: Hand of Gork or MorkWardokk (100)- Lore of the Savage Waaagh: Brutal Beast SpiritsWurrgog Prophet (140)- Artefact: Mystic Waaagh! Paint - Lore of the Savage Waaagh: Squiggly CurseOrruk Warboss On Wyvern(240)Battleline10 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys(120)- Bonesplitterz Battleline30 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys(360)- Bonesplitterz Battleline20 x Savage Orruk Morboys(240)- Bonesplitterz BattlelineUnits4 x Savage Big Stabbas (200)BattalionsKunnin' Rukk (160)SceneryBalewind Vortex (100)Total: 2000 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 174 Strategy is pretty simple: ****** the Rukk... throw arrow boys in the middle and let them shoot what they can. Hand of Gork and Brutal Beast they last 2-3 turns other bait is the Wyvern - Kunnin Beast Spirit and Mystic Shield. Boss shield helps him survive 2 rounds at least. He is for taking objectives and hunting small heroes, warmachines. and meanwhile Morboys wait on objectives( or screening) for Wyvern to die. Big Stabbas sneak from the side on hand of gork from turn 2 and kill what is in their way(brutal beast, hand of gork). Wurrgog snipes on Vortex small heroes with arcane bolt and squigly curse, getting additional +1 from changing opponents to squigs. In one moment if near arcane he has autocast arcane bolt and 3+ squigly curse. a lot of magic, a lot of fun. Not going to win tournaments with alpha strikers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Peanut Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Hi , I have a question , I read in another topic that with the kunnin rukk the arrowboys can do another shot with 5s and 6s, is that correct? I thought they only can do extra shots with a 6. thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Hot Peanut said: Hi , I have a question , I read in another topic that with the kunnin rukk the arrowboys can do another shot with 5s and 6s, is that correct? I thought they only can do extra shots with a 6. thanks for the help. Yep, and you can give them +1 to Hit from Brutal Beast Spirits so 5s become 6s. Maybe Damned Terrain too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svnvaldez Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 and/or +1 to hit from damn terrain. With brutal beast spirits, damned terrain, bone spirit, and the big bosses command ability: you are hitting on 3s, rerolling 1s and generating an extra attack on 4s . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Peanut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Thanks for the explenation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanamorf Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I have been running 6 big stabbas since GHB17 landed and I have to say it will be hard to go back to not having them. If I could work out the points I would run all 8 that I own, unfortunately 2 have to stay in the case On 2/22/2018 at 7:58 PM, Furious said: I'm also curious about your big stabba usage. How do they do? Do they tend to get shot to death? My experience has been that some games yes they get shot up and do very little. However in those games you just have to accept that other things were not being shot at. In the games where they do not get shot they are just so much fun. Get Brutal Beast Spirits on them and they are way better. Their 3" reach makes it so easy to get them all in to effective range even behind a screen of something else. My favorite trick is to set up a screen of Orruks to act as alpha strike chaff, put the stikkas behind so they are in combat when the screen is charged and wait. Remembering the Prophets command ability you can have 3 rounds of combat with them in 2 turns. 36 attacks at rend 2 and 3 damage. I played a Sylvaneth Alarielle list last week and after 2 turns of being shot at 4 made it into contact with Alarielle, supported by the remenants of 2 units of boar boys. The boars never got to attack as the 4 stikkas killed her from full to dead, first shot. @meet.the.doctor I love that you are using the Wyvern, its not a model I own and keep thinking I may pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meet.the.doctor Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Still WiP: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broche Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I also want to test the Harbringer shaman as the general in my next built. Retreat and charge on Big stabbas or boarboys Maniak look quite nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymajq Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 What would you guys run at 1k pts? I'm slowly crawling up from 500 to 1k. After losing every single game at such low pts I was discouraged to continue the army, but now I'm feeling that savage whaaag again and got a box of 20 more boys. I sort of done goofed as I also bought an old box of 10 boys (super cheap) to get my numbers up, but now Everytime I get a box of 20 and build the big stabbas I will have 5 boys left over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanamorf Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mikeymajq said: What would you guys run at 1k pts? I'm slowly crawling up from 500 to 1k. After losing every single game at such low pts I was discouraged to continue the army, but now I'm feeling that savage whaaag again and got a box of 20 more boys. I sort of done goofed as I also bought an old box of 10 boys (super cheap) to get my numbers up, but now Everytime I get a box of 20 and build the big stabbas I will have 5 boys left over I would be tempted to try something like Allegiance: DestructionLeadersWurrgog Prophet (140)- General- Trait: Squirmy Warpaint - Lore of the Savage Waaagh: Squiggly CurseWardokk (100)- Lore of the Savage Waaagh: Hand of Gork or MorkWardokk (100)- Artefact: Big Wurrgog Mask - Lore of the Savage Waaagh: Bone KrushaBattleline5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (160)- Bonesplitterz Battleline20 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (240)- Bonesplitterz Battleline5 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (160)- Bonesplitterz BattlelineUnits2 x Savage Big Stabbas (100)Total: 1000 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 94 Maybe consider dropping a Wardokk for more Stabbas There are never "left over boys" just extras for converting to more Stabbas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymajq Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Nice, quitr different from my thoughts which was more horde-ish. Yeah I just need some actual big stabbas or something, got one extra from the 10 boys sprue. But I guess kitbash or ebay might be a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Mikeymajq said: Nice, quitr different from my thoughts which was more horde-ish. Yeah I just need some actual big stabbas or something, got one extra from the 10 boys sprue. But I guess kitbash or ebay might be a good idea I've seen some awesome conversions. You don't even need to have two dudes on there - you can have an Ogor wielding that big stick (maybe paint him green, and greenstuff on some pointy ears!). As long as it's the right sized base you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanamorf Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 11:41 AM, Mikeymajq said: Nice, quitr different from my thoughts which was more horde-ish. Yeah I just need some actual big stabbas or something, got one extra from the 10 boys sprue. But I guess kitbash or ebay might be a good idea My favorite kit bash is actually made from a stick from the garden with two of the larger spear blades wedged in the end. Then I used some thin string to make it look like it was correctly held in place. It works really well. If you want to go more radical I saw someone using a whole totem the other day as the stabba. I am sure the picture was on a blog on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Why are people using the Orruk Warboss on Wyvern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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