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TBH I don't think I want Vampirates on the tabletop... they are a cool idea for TWW2 but a lot of us are still salty they made that entire faction without doing Kislev or Araby first : / Also have they even talked about oceans or seas in the Mortal Realms aside from Idoneth? I can't imagine too much happens with that entire Empire scouring around for souls... I think I'd much rather see Eastern/Asian themed undead than any kind of pirates edit: I KNOW I don't want Vampirates in AOS 😨

You need some cavalry or shooting in this list, am not sure how you'd want to switch it up to achieve that though. Htf is your friend taking 4 bloodthirster though? That matchup feels more like an issue of him cheesing

Pics please 👀 I have not attached her shield yet so I'm willing to try some extra conversion

Agree with the first part: I'm more interested in narrative and casual play, but I'm here for the competitive knowledge to guide what I buy and to keep up with news. Seraphon have their own entire community over at Lustria online, so they may not be a good example for your second point (or maybe it reinforces it more?)

I really would prefer new Freeguild models, that incorporated different races within units (separate boxed units that can be mixed on table with cohesive rules anyone??). And it would be great to not have the same floofy holy Roman Empire look... but unfortunately we will probably only see the current boxes repackaged with circle bases, and some metal models made plastic. While needed, this book isn't for new players. Whether they keep the HRE look or not, the poses need to be changed because as of now they are designed to be regimental-fit. Personally I don't see how every single Mortal Realm could end up with the same medieval Europe look for their Freeguilds, but its the lore to table disconnect that always happens. I do not think "just convert your own!" is a proper answer either, since that requires an even heavier investment in both time and money unless GW decides to make proper conversion kits for AOS.

The rules she comes with are "officially" just a Prime, but you're exactly right and the cape she gets means it's a no-brainer proxy. Questor seems like more of a narrative pick than matched though.

this is why I'm upset Leena Stormspire was a Liberator Prime and not a Questor... who tf is taking liberators with swords are you saying the swords are a closer matchup, since they'd go up to 4+ and not 5+?

is there an explanation between these 3 things somewhere? or we're waiting on that still... I do find it most likely that this fight doesn't involve Sigmar, though I am hoping Ogors don't go back to the weird/vague Mongolian theme. The Tyrant doesn't look like anything historical in particular besides his stache the wiki mentions nothing about him being THAT old, but definitely around since Sigmar's mortal life.

Barrow Kings? Is that why Kemmler got moved to the mountains in Total War Warhammer2?

Your speculation is 👀 The ruination chamber could very easily be damage focused mages and magical weaponry/artillery... "Ruination" is defined as widescale destruction, so my personal guess is that chamber opens when AOS gets siege warfare or large scale ruleset.

sorry for the third post, I just caught up and the Hysh aelves get me so excited 😅 But, those rumor engines coupled with the teaser for Underworlds: Beastgrave is pointing towards a Ghur-themed Wanderers faction. I've mentioned it in another thread, but I see this as part of the old faction splits--whereas Sylvaneth are the (Wood) Elves who merged with aspects/spirits of Athel Loren (LIFE), the Wanderers would be the Wood/High Elves who merged with the primal aspects (BEASTS). Aelf-centaur immediately reminds me of the Wild Hunt and Kurnous. The lion model could mean we will see some High and Dark Elves included in the Wanderers, since all 3 have rangers (shades, shadow warriors, waywatchers) and all 3 have beast-taming aspects. This ALSO lines up with the Ulgu and Hysh aelves still to be released: Ulgu is the Dark Elf split from Daughters, and Hysh is the High Elf split from Idoneth. I am not sure if those current aelf factions are tied to a realm specifically...but the parallels/mirror are definitely there. This can eventually lead to a shared tome too, like what happened with orruks.

I am so down for spirit soldiers/constructs fighting alongside angelic, geometric aelves... Please GW take my MONEY

anything faery-esque will probably be given to the Sylvaneth, as the new Wanderers are most likely going to focus on the primal aspect of aelves and the beasts that they share Ghur(?) with

This is my childhood dream come true 😨 thank you for this!!!

Beastgrave is setting up for a full Wanderers army it seems, unless Underworlds is going to expand factions where AOS can't. And I think Grungni dwarves are on the table as well? Either as a Dispossessed+Ironweld fusion or re-release that is separate from Fyre and KO. So to me, Order alone has 4 more factions to go: 1. Wanderers/Beastmeld aelves (where Sylvaneth are treemeld) 2. Hysh Aelves, Tyrion (and Teclis?) 3. Ulgu Aelves, Malerion 4. Third Dwarf faction, Grungni or revamp Dwarves split into 3, Aelves split into 6 (2 apiece, esp if you count Deepkin as Teclis' high elf split). Humans technically will have 3 if you count it as Stormcast, Freeguilds, and Slaves to Darkness. Honestly I am hyped as heck to have such different takes on the three archetypical fantasy races, and I'd definitely want to see them expand orks to stick with this 3-split they have going on.

Well thank the gods then... been waiting far too long to see dwarves and elves actually team up, with none of the overdone "allies by necessity" trope. That part does make sense; the new models they are adding are obviously cavalry, and it does flesh out that big question of "what happened to the elves that didn't become Sylvaneth?" -- it looks like the answer is that they melded/transformed with their beasts in the same way the sylv revenants melded with dryads/Athel Loren(?)

Redwall army!!! I could die happy if I could put armored badgers, otters, and hedgehogs on the table...

I was about to say, that's definitely a hoofed lower body. Wanderers seem weird to start with rather than Hysh or Ulgu aelves, but maybe there's more truth to that Wanderer x Ogor box rumor (which would also mean new ogor tome) that people have been throwing around.

Have they ever said the World That Was animosity kept up in the Mortal Realms? afaik there's no War of the Beard here... it would be kind of stupid to continue that grudgin' without a serious fracture in the Order Alliance storyline.

the chambers yet to be opened are the most intriguing to me, so I can't say I'd be upset 😅

Still, with how the terrain is set up on that demo board, I can't imagine you'd ever use/need 30" range

I will have to go back and read those stormhosts in full then oops!! The Hallowed Knight lore is "Since Alarielle gave her blessing to the Hallowed Knights during the Realmgate Wars, there has been talk of a glowing figure sighted in and around their foremost Stormkeeps. Known only as the Silvered Saint, this androgynous, feather-winged being appears in reflections and even bodies of water to lend its blessing to those afflicted by doubt in times of great need." Warhammer wikia says Lileath "granted the last of her ebbing divinity to her daughter, before sending both her and Araloth forth into a new world of her own creation " so I don't think they are the same being, but it also doesn't outright say Lileath died--whether this is because it's incomplete or not I don't know. However it seems more likely we'll see Lileath's daughter instead. Not sure if I'd want that Silvered Saint to be a World That Was hero-turned-(demi)god, or a new demigod entirely

Stormcast models for Warcry were confirmed https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/ I wish we were able to use Prosecutors instead of Longstrikes especially since I expect LOS to be more limited. They feel like overkill for a small skirmish game. I get why they didn't give us Palladors though.

Did you post this on reddit too? 😝 The Winds of magic infused with a bunch of the Heroes, who are now the new Gods in AOS. There's an End Times synopsis on the warhammer fanwiki that is? ongoing? but it's a bit spotty and sometimes not coherent. The ending parts about the Winds of Magic splitting out of the Vortex were good to know for AOS though. I don't recall what happened to Ulric, but if he DID survive we can expect wolf humans for free peoples perhaps

the 3 from SC Vanguard are now useful as a unit 😅