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Wonder how they ****** the app up so badly when Battlescribe has worked just fine for free.

Haha, I know you're joking but there really are some people who draw these sorts of comparisons with a straight face. *edit I saw someone on facebook say their trip up Mt Everest cost more than their Warhammer collection, therefore Warhammer is reasonably priced. He must have lost some brain capacity in the high altitude 😂

Just saw the SoB price today. That's a huge nope from me. $320 AUD for a single kit is beyond absurd.

This is a reasonable suggestion if you feel as though you are getting fair value for the price that you are paying. Budgeting is always a good idea for personal finance. My issue with the SoB release is that the consumer is not getting fair value. In Aus they cost $320 AUD, that's not fair value at all. I can "afford" to buy a kit. I can "afford" hundreds of them today, technically, but why the hell would I when there are better things to spend my money on? No one, well almost no one, has infinite money. As adults we need to buy/pay off property, make investments, save for retirement etc. So fair value is extremely important when deciding how to use the money that we have for discretionary spending. I could spend $320 on this gargant kit, or I could make that $320 go MUCH further in a myriad of other ways. IMO the only people at this point who defend GW pricing either a) do not understand the value of money or b) have infinite money. I suspect it is more a) than b).

Yeah. Look at 40k - buy the core rule book ($110 AUD), buy the space marine codex ($70 AUD), buy the ultramarines supplement ($50 AUD), buy chapter approved ($70 AUD). You've now spent $300 AUD just to play the game, never mind how much you spent on the models. That's $300 AUD to play the game in its current state. Give it a year or so and you're expected to buy more rules, download erratas and FAQ's, maybe even buy some campaign books just for the bonus rules. It's insane.

Well yeah, this stems to my thought process of rules being something that should be available for free. We pay for the models. Fantastic models, but that should be the cost of entry. Paying for rules, printed rules at that, is unpalatable for me. I'm not getting into the gaming side of this hobby until they completely overhaul that side of their business. So much easier to just play video games and keep my hobby to collecting and painting only.

Ew. I hate how much printed material there is in this game. Can't stand it and don't want it.

If going online to look at points is a barrier then you must be like 80 years old or something.

No more rule books. Like literally, no more printed rules. None. The rules for 3rd should be via an app.

I was genuinely expecting a release date or at least something about the SoB from the latest reveal. I mean, where are they? What are they waiting for?

Wow, you can just say you don't like their style. "scum" and "over sexualised trash" just sounds like an angry GW fan boi.

TBH I would prefer all campaign books to NOT be applicable to matched play. It's better for game balance to keep narrative books to narrative play, lest we end up with way too much bloat.

Personally I think you should always go with the army you like the look of the most.

These loot boxes are $220 AUD each. I'm frankly astounded anyone would want to pay that much for a lucky dip of what is probably old stock that isn't selling well. I mean, most of us have a pile of shame already...

Agreed. Total waste of money.

Seriously 10/10

This thread reminded me that I have my Khorne Bloodsecrator on a 40mm and my Bloodstoker on a 32mm. Turns out they are meant to be the other way around, i.e. to be correct I need to swap their bases around. Problem is I've already painted each model and glued them firmly to their bases. Snapping them off is going to be a big pain and might result in me damaging either the models, the paint jobs or the scenic bases. How big of an issue is this if I want to play some matched play games in the future? So far I've only been collecting and painting.

Anyone able to explain what the destiny points system and hero customization is going to mean for matched play? Is it mostly an irrelevant narrative thing, or is it going to be a big rules change?

Maybe new idoneth battle tome soon?

I have Nagash and the start collecting skeleton horde box, which I built Arkhan from. I like the idea of running a mix of ghosts and skeletons together, I'm hoping there's a new LoN battle tome released in the future.

Oof, last post May 17. Dead battletome?

If you dropped the bloodletters & reavers for 3 x 5 flesh hounds you'd have some points spare for gore pilgrims.

Ya but if you could take them as regular units without occupying the important leader slots then I think they'd be worth taking, as they are pretty cheap. I agree that their lacklustre abilities could also use some tweaking. The short 'wholly within' ranges in our book are really annoying for me. The StD release had one thing that I like and that's the chungus lord on Karkadrak. A proper mounted beatstick for Khorne mortals.

Just had a thought, if the following heroes did not take up leader slots I think mortals would be a lot more fun to build lists for: -Skullgrinder -All flavours of deathbringers (aspiring & exalted) -Bloodstoker

New sculpts for Gors, Bestigors and Ungors would be nice, to bring them in line with the quality of the beastgrave models.