DynamicCalories Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 For my wallet I hope so too. What are we expecting for prices? The Start Collecting I can see coming with One hero, 10 arkanauts, and the smallest ship, Or alternatively Hero, 10 Arkanauts and 3 Skyriggers. Given that Tzeentch got a Dameon one but not an acolyte one might suggest it's unlikely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 @Mohojoe I gotta get my money! K04L1F3 Another thing I've been mulling over. I'd expect the SC: KO to be a unit of Skyriggers, Arkanaut Company and a Gunhauler...Endrinmaster as the Hero. Gunhauler $60 Frigate: $90 Ironclad: $115 Brokk Grungsson: $50 (Hehehe now I want to give mine a mullet and a metal plate on his chest) Skyriggers: $45 Arkanaut Company: $50 Thunderers: $50 All other characters: $40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I am hoping you're in the ballpark with those. I think I've decided on starting off my collection with the Endrinmaster, an arkanaut company and either Skyriggers or a Gunhauler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 It's going to be an expensive release I'm sure, but I'm just sitting here (s)chilling out in a hot tub full of Bugman Bucks with Duncan and the rest of the GW Community team so I ain't worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I have decided to leave my Chaos/Nurgle stuff where it is for the time being so I can focus on these. Luckily an April release means I should be free from my academic responsibilities. I want to paint some dwarves yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediceabide Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Dez said: @Mohojoe I gotta get my money! K04L1F3 Another thing I've been mulling over. I'd expect the SC: KO to be a unit of Skyriggers, Arkanaut Company and a Gunhauler...Endrinmaster as the Hero. Gunhauler $60 Frigate: $90 Ironclad: $115 Brokk Grungsson: $50 (Hehehe now I want to give mine a mullet and a metal plate on his chest) Skyriggers: $45 Arkanaut Company: $50 Thunderers: $50 All other characters: $40 I sure hope you're talking AUD or CAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Actually looking at the US store for Stormcast, that's quite conservative: The Lord Cellestant on Dracoth is $140, and the Ironclad dwarfs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I was thinking USD, and @DynamicCalories has a good point. I'd up the Ironclad to $140, probably shift the Frigate up to $115 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 But Stormcast are priced as if they where made of actual gold... please GW don't base the price of this dwarfs in the Stormcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediceabide Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, DynamicCalories said: Actually looking at the US store for Stormcast, that's quite conservative: The Lord Cellestant on Dracoth is $140, and the Ironclad dwarfs it. 3 Skyriggers for $45 or 10 Arkanaut for $50, makes them quite a bit more than the new Tzaangor/Acolytes, where you get 3 Skyfires for $35, 10 Tzaangors for $40, not to mention 20 Kairic Acolytes for $50. The new Tzaangor character on disc and Changeling are both only $35 I would be surprised if they made them cost so much more than comparable models of the army they just released a month ago. My guess is that the Ironclad is $115, Frigate around $60, and the Gunhauler, which doesn't look that big at all, around $40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I was mainly talking about the Ironclad, I hope they are closer matched to the DoT stuff, but I can't see such a massive model being cheaper than the Dracoth Lad. Then again, Greater/Kairos is well valued for such a huge model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Hmm, excellent points! I did have the Stormcast loosely in mind with my theoretical pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Wait. Did you pay the same for the Kairic Acolytes than for the Tzaangors? here Kairic cost 40€ for 20 and Tzaangors (the AoS variant) cost 32,5€ for 10. Why they cost the same in $? Tzaangors are like 20% cheaper in total. Per model are 50% more expensive. EDIT: Ok nevermind, I saw the edit to correct the Tzaangors price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediceabide Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Galas said: Wait. Did you pay the same for the Kairic Acolytes than for the Tzaangors? here Kairic cost 40€ for 20 and Tzaangors (the AoS variant) cost 32,5€ for 10. Why they cost the same in $? Typo, I edited it. $50 for 20 Kairic Acolytes, $40 for 10 Tzaangor. 10 minutes ago, DynamicCalories said: I was mainly talking about the Ironclad, I hope they are closer matched to the DoT stuff, but I can't see such a massive model being cheaper than the Dracoth Lad. Then again, Greater/Kairos is well valued for such a huge model. Maybe, they've been reeling in the prices of new releases a bit lately, so we can hope for something relatively sane. The bigger issue with be the points per $ really. If you're expected to run multiple Ironclads at $115 each, that's going to add up fast, same with the smaller ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 These guys will be sky-high points especially if the infantry is 2 wounds. The Ironclad will be north of 500 with 4 cannons, a minigun, bombs, and whatever the characters on it do. Probably highly durable with little hand to hand options so it will shoot mostly as it doesn't look like it'd try to ram anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediceabide Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, daedalus81 said: These guys will be sky-high points especially if the infantry is 2 wounds. The Ironclad will be north of 500 with 4 cannons, a minigun, bombs, and whatever the characters on it do. Probably highly durable with little hand to hand options so it will shoot mostly as it doesn't look like it'd try to ram anything. I'm not banking on the infantry having two wounds, it seems unnecessary (at least for the Arkanaut Company, maybe on the Grundstok Thunderers). I'm also guessing that the cannons aren't going to be full-fledged cannons, probably just a 4 shots at D3 damage. Hopefully the bombs are better than the Gyrobomber's bombs. If anything you may be paying for resilience, and special deployment rules (for it and the Arkanaut Company inside)... all this based on absolutely nothing. Man I want more info badly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 That's what I've been saying. They will be a high points cost low model count force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 19 hours ago, pachawar said: 6 times, in one thread though. Is the irony lost on you that you're beating the same drum, just a different tune? why is it not OK for him to frequently post that he likes the stuff, but OK for you to repeatedly post why you don't like him doing so? It would be different if you were just posting why you don't like the stuff, but you're actually ridiculing someone else for enjoying something. Not cool. If you're not interested, go find a thread (or game) that suits you. But don't be a wet blanket on someone else's enthusiasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 15 hours ago, amysrevenge said: What we've got is a sliding scale of what we consider acceptable for the other guy to do with his army. Let's not pretend - this isn't about what you want to do with your own army; if you want the colours to match a sp[ecific scheme for any reason, you can make them match. This is about minimum standards you demand of the other guy. And let's not pretend again - by making this demand, we are saying "meet this standard or stay home" - we are explicitly excluding the other guy if he won't meet this standard. Well said, sir. I don't think anyone could disagree with this. (Well, except for Sleboda). I paint my armies the colors I want. There's a vast difference between equipment and the color it's painted, and any attempt to compare them is a false equivalency. News flash: If some particular Kharadron or Stormcast faction member were to wear differently colored armor in the world of the game, they would still perform the same way. If a Barak-Nar member put on red and white armor, he wouldn't suddenly gain different abilities. Personally, I think the best way to deal with someone who's that uptight about your army matching their expectation, is to find someone else who's interested in having fun and let that guy just play with himself. Have fun pushing your little dudesmen around an empty table and muttering about how no one else can understand how important it is to play "by the book" as if it's Holy Writ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baardah Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Im a bit baffled by the pain for rules debate. This was never an issue before and it certainly isn't something new. The new SCE tone had this with its differential stormhosts. The Sylvaneth had this with its different clans. If you play with a gnarlroot clan battalion you probably paint them to match or....if not isn't that ok too? My Sylvaneth are painted to match none of the suggested color schemes from the battletome. The important thing with the battalions is that the model are within the requirements right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 This is what I said, so many pants in a twist over another way of describing named formations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 It was more due to the wording from that screenshot than anything else. It veered close to an official GW ruling, but you'd have to see the whole book in context. If the warscroll battalions say the units must be painted a certain way... hoo boy. What a can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 In the immortal words of the Hitchhiker's Guide: Don't Panic. Maybe the battalions will require you to paint the units within them a certain way, maybe they won't. If they do I don't see a lot of players following those restrictions since the freedom to paint your army how you like is one of the main creative draws of this hobby. I can see GW recommending a certain colour scheme for a battalion if that battalion is meant to represent a specific force, but I don't see them making it mandatory. No need to worry about it until it (possibly) eventuates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorewood Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 As long as you have your army painted to a decent table top quality no one is going to care if the color scheme does not match. AOS is a new game, everything is still fresh. There is not decades worth of lore behind these color paletes and even if it had as long as your opponent knows what you are playing there should be no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm not espousing a moral panic over it, just mulling it over. My main concern is that it will a pain in the butt to paint with a fun colour scheme because there is so much metal on some models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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