Iradekhorne Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Nevvermore said: Those were different models, we're talking about kits. Tzaangor, Arcanites, Tzaangor Skyfires, Shaman, they are all completely new kits. Pretty sure they won't be releasing a Start Collecting with these models for quite a while, like I said I expect 6-12 months. But the silvaneth release was in June of 2016, and they sre new nodels too in that moment, but Gw put a start collecting the next month.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevvermore Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Iradekhorne said: But the silvaneth release was in June of 2016, and they sre new nodels too in that moment, but Gw put a start collecting the next month.... ...with only one of the new models. The rest were years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N_Watson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, Nevvermore said: Those were different models, we're talking about kits. Tzaangor, Arcanites, Tzaangor Skyfires, Shaman, they are all completely new kits. Pretty sure they won't be releasing a Start Collecting with these models for quite a while, like I said I expect 6-12 months. I think the tzangor kit is the same as the 40k one, but minus a sprue, so that's been put almost 2 months I think now. The way GW have been changing this up lately, I think it's entirely possible to get it sooner. Ironjawz was a little shy of 6 months I think. The gruntas and the warchanter were entirely new sculpts. Guess we can only wait and see. 20 x acolytes, 10 tzaangor and ogroid would be a good base for an arcanites box. Something like this would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darsis Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi guys, great forum. Picked up a box of acolytes and Tzaangors today to start my very first AoS army. Any advice on how to arm them? Should I max out on Greatblades for Tzaangors and Shields for Acolytes? Thanks.Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, Darsis said: Hi guys, great forum. Picked up a box of acolytes and Tzaangors today to start my very first AoS army. Any advice on how to arm them? Should I max out on Greatblades for Tzaangors and Shields for Acolytes? Thanks. Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Max greatblade, max mutants, the rest shields seems to be the consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodwin Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Welcome to the party Darsis! You need to read the Tzaangor Warscroll carefully as it can have a mix of items. You're going to want 1/5 of your guys using Greatbaldes, 1/5 of your guys with the mutated double head (mutants with 2 hand weapons), plus your musician and standard bearer. As per the FAQ it seems like you can make your Champion have special equipment, so mine is carrying a Greatblade. After that, its up to you, the rest can be Shield or x2 Weapons. The shields will be useful for hopefully eating some wounds, let them die before the others. At least, I'm pretty sure that's how its been decided they should be run. Can't comment on the Acoclytes as I've only been paying attention to Tzaangor stuff. Speaking of which, for my Tzaangor heavy force, I'm thinking 3 Tzaangor Shaman in a Cabal instead of Fatemaster. Should give me like 6 spells if everything is going well, with a chance at doing 9 in a critical phase if I pop my Vials too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iradekhorne Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I have another question, the Fatemaster in the warscroll batallion of the cabal, dont win a attempt to cast spell and can cast it? he isn't a wizard, but he win the chance of cast a spell, if you give them the command trait of know two spells, and the warscoll batallion allow him to cast one "extra" spell, you can cast it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Good question, does giving him 2 spells make him a wizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Goodwin said: As per the FAQ it seems like you can make your Champion have special equipment, so mine is carrying a Greatblade. Any chance you can link me this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Soulsmith said: Any chance you can link me this? There's nothing saying you can't make him a wielder of special weapons, I do it all the time. And yeah there is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darsis Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Max greatblade, max mutants, the rest shields seems to be the consensus.Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darsis Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Thanks for the reply Goodwin, champion with a Greatblade is a nice idea. Looking forward to getting more involved in the thread now I've decided to join the ranks of Tzeentch! Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniJunkie Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 hours ago, Iradekhorne said: And another question... Where go the disc of tzeentch profile of the everchosen Gaunt Summoner?? Oo he missed it in the warp? haha Anyone know the answer? also, I know the model is more expensive but I'm curious if anyone else is thinking of using the Magnus model as a Lord of Change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just use the one in the app. No idea why he isn't included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 The one in the book is just the 100pts foot one but you can still use the other ones. Only difference is points. Not sure why they didn't make just one big multi profile thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 The Gaunt Summmoner in the DoT book is 100 points, on foot, no familiars. The Gaunt Summoner with familiars is 120 points and can be found on the GW website as a pdf. The Gaunt Summoner on disk is in the Everchosen book, and is 120 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Tzaangors heavy list idea... Could drop the battalion and Enlightened for something else but have the extra artefact is nice. Not sure how effective it would be. I figure a block of 30 Tzaangors will straight murder anything they come in contact with in addition to whatever spell help they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N_Watson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I have a feeling that if you want to take a tzangor heavy list, you will need a one drop list. If you come up against something that can one drop like warrior brotherhood and they shoot off 10 or more tzangor before you buff or give the 30 block inspiring presence you could be losing d6 +5 to battleshock at least. Cult of the transient form and not taking any demon might be the only way to deal with things like this. Even then, it's a 50/50 chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yeah to recover the loses. I just don't want to take the lame Acolytes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N_Watson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Malakithe said: Yeah to recover the loses. I just don't want to take the lame Acolytes lol Only need 10? Not that bad haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Maybe using the immune to battleshock might have to start becoming more of a thing, instead of relying upon their bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Ok revised a bit. Should be one drop due to the include any number of additional arcanite. Could always swap a Shaman for Magister. If I cant figure out a Tzaangors heavy list i like then I'll have to go full on daemon list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniJunkie Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I bought a box of Tzaangors today, and also own a Silver Tower set on sprue...but those extra six are useless for Pitched Battle, right? Given min unit is 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodwin Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thanks so much for the ideas guys. I kicked up my collection to 30 Tzaangor, 6 Skyfire, 3 Enlightened, 3 Tzaangor Shaman, Ogroid, LoC, Changeling and 10 Pink Horrors. I like those suggestions though so I may look at grabbing som emore Tzaangor or Skyfire. Thanks again!! @ArkihamI don't think Fatemaster gets to cast spells. The rules specifically state Wizards can attempt to cast a spell. Nothing gives him the Wizard keyword. You can eqiup him with spells, and put him in the Arcanite Cabal but I'd still see him as not having the Wizard keyword. It is a shame, but I could see some significant push-back on trying to cast with him. @MiniJunkie Yeah, unless you are generating Tzaangor from an ability you are only going to have 10, and then if you do use an ability you are getting less then 10 but still paying for ten. Its why I didn't end up getting Silver Tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yeah you can replenish for free but if you want a new unit you'll need extra points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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