RuneBrush Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 15 hours ago, amysrevenge said: Thinking on it more, I reckon the most probable compatibility is forward only, not in both directions. By that, I mean that it seems most likely to me that they might come up with dual rules so that you could use your TOW models in AoS, but that they would NOT come up with dual rules so that you could use your AoS models in TOW. Just to steal the jam out of your doughnut on this line of thinking. We've had it confirmed that the AoS studio has absolutely no knowledge on what's being created by the Specialist Games studio. Now it is possible this has changed, but (at least initially), the plan wasn't to have cross-compatibility between game systems. 1 hour ago, Beliman said: Imho, I can't imagine anything about TOW that could not exist in AOS. The scale is the same (we are already using Empire, Wood Elf, etc...) and the aesthetic is not a problem. You only need to deal with square-round bases. The scale isn't quite the same. Classic WHFB was 25mm and AoS is Heroic 28mm. Some ranges (e.g. Cities, Seraphon) would still work - i.e. the armies that haven't had a range refresh, but others could look a bit off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccentricCircle Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 GW may have called it "25" or 28 mm respectively, but none of their i models have been true 25mm for decades. Newer models don't really keep to a proper scale, but are more in the 32mm range. From at least the mid 90s wfb models were "Heroic" scale and bulky for 28mm models. Lord of the Rings is closer to 25mm and that was specifically to distinguish the models from warhammer, so that they wouldn't be compatible. So while scale creep is certainly a thing, there wasn't some massive shift when aos came out, it was just the continuation of what had already been going on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RuneBrush said: The scale isn't quite the same. Classic WHFB was 25mm and AoS is Heroic 28mm. Some ranges (e.g. Cities, Seraphon) would still work - i.e. the armies that haven't had a range refresh, but others could look a bit off. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the last iteration of warhammer fantasy had 28mm miniatures. At least the last ones that are still valid for AoS, and it seems to be exactly what the Warhammer Community is talking about: Quote What? No! What madness is that?! The scale will remain the same as it ever was. We want people to be able to use their old armies if they wish, or to start new ones, or to add new miniatures to old armies – whatever they want. Btw, I know people that still plays Warhammer 6th edition with miniatures from 5th to 8th. And let's be honest, I'm not sure if that's a big deal.... Edited November 16, 2021 by Beliman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Beliman said: Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the last iteration of warhammer fantasy had 28mm miniatures. At least the last ones that are still valid for AoS, and it seems to be exactly what the Warhammer Community is talking about: Btw, I know people that still plays Warhammer 6th edition with miniatures from 5th to 8th. And let's be honest, I'm not sure if that's a big deal.... I find the scale creep issue to be a bit overstated, in any case. I can put Galen ven Denst from 2020 next to High Elf Banner Bearer 2 from 1992 and they don't look hilariously mismatched. Sure, the old mini is smaller, and the proportions are different due to the limitations of white metal casting, but they don't look like they are in a different scale, as such. The size difference between models is still at a point where you can justify it either as different "art styles", so to speak, or as them just being different sizes in-world. I don't think the same is true for some LotR models, which look noticable out of place next to warhammer models (the dwarves in particular). EDIT: Visual reference. Edited November 17, 2021 by Neil Arthur Hotep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I think the scale issue varies from model to model - I've a blood reaver that seems massive in comparison to an old Chaos Warrior for example, but other models the difference is barely noticeable and certainly models released in the 3 to 5 years prior to End Times had grown a bit 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durgin Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I think that there won't be official AOS rules for TOW minis, but there is no reason not to use TOW miniatures in AoS and viceversa: rockgut troggoth, after all, are just renamed Stone Trolls ^-^ And you can use Old World new state troops (if GW will ever make them) to count as freeguild troops. I just don't believe that GW will give double rules for Old World minis (as it happens for Underworld). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMMachine Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, RuneBrush said: I think the scale issue varies from model to model - I've a blood reaver that seems massive in comparison to an old Chaos Warrior for example, but other models the difference is barely noticeable and certainly models released in the 3 to 5 years prior to End Times had grown a bit 😊 The scale of 8th Edition models were already larger than stuff from before. Bloodreavers at least can still fit 25mm square bases as well as Blood Warriors. Stuff like the Fyreslayers or the new Aelfs are a larger problem in that case because those models have 32mm roundbases while the old dwarfs and elves had 20mm square. I don't know if we really need all the now "Old World" models with warscrolls in AoS or if something like Kislev could fit count as Cities of Sigmar units for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri Nelriksson Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 All the TOW human armies will be usable in aos cities imho. By Sigmar,even the Cathay contraptions could fit the ironweld or some other subgroups. I'd love some mash up between human armies making room for extravagant conversions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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