The Rumour Thread

[Mr_Whateley]

1 minute ago, Loskelodd said:

It's possible it will be updated for Warcry. Same could be said for the Gutter runners too, though, so who knows?

I’d like that. But also: PLAGUE MONKS! 
 

(ok, sorry for my enthusiasm but I really wanted them to be next).

[Gitzdee]

3 hours ago, EntMan said:

Based on responses to a comment I made the other day, I think this was only ever a thing briefly in AoS once and the colour scheme specific rules sillyness is much more a 40k thing.

What about daemons like pink horrors or the coloured gods? GW wants to move away from that too? We are talking about marines etc but isnt this the same problem? 

I think it would be great to not have daemons locked into a scheme. I know it isnt a rule, but ive never seen anyone move away from the GW scheme.

[Gitzdee]

Double

Edited April 16 by Gitzdee

[novakai]

Gutter runner maybe because they would fit in as a more of a specilist unit which works for Warcry but Plague monks being a more standard unit would probably not work as a warcry warband. (Given that warcry units can be discontinued at anytime now, both probably are not suited as warcry release for the long term)

Of course I doubt this Skaven release will cover every unit that need to be refresh or expand each clan all at once. It probably just Masterclan/Skyre units, Moulder with Rat Ogors, and brand new units.

[bethebee]

5 hours ago, Ferban said:

...am I the only one that prefers the golden boys?

i really never minded the gold-boy scheme, at least as much as a lot of other people.  i think it made them look otherworldly and powerful, which helped to sell the flavor of the army to me.  i do however think that more basic iron tones are much more appropriate for this new wave which has a much darker and more grounded tone; they aren't selling super-soldiers, but tragic heroes doomed to lose the last bit of their humanity.  the down-to-earth materials helps to remove the notions of glamor from the Stormcast and is perfectly fitting for a wave dedicated to their "dark" side.

i also think that it's just generally nice to get diversity in the box-art paintjobs, especially in an army like Stormcast where there are a lot of releases and a myriad of chambers to pick from.

[Ejecutor]

19 minutes ago, novakai said:

Gutter runner maybe because they would fit in as a more of a specilist unit which works for Warcry but Plague monks being a more standard unit would probably not work as a warcry warband. (Given that warcry units can be discontinued at anytime now, both probably are not suited as warcry release for the long term)

Of course I doubt this Skaven release will cover every unit that need to be refresh or expand each clan all at once. It probably just Masterclan/Skyre units, Moulder with Rat Ogors, and brand new units.

Don't take what happened as the rule but as the exception. Almost all the warbands removed were darkoaths and from the first edition. That was not a coincidence. And nowadays GW releases units for AoS using warcry, so it wouldn't be that weird to have plague monks. The only thing is that it won't be that soon, IMO.

[Gitzdee]

I think there is is difference now with Warcry units. Some of them are announced as both Warcry and AoS units. I think that was the case with the Wildercorpse Hunters and the Gorgers. Dont remember if they did the same with the recent warbands.

Edit: Could have only been on the stream.

Edited April 16 by Gitzdee

[novakai]

4 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Don't take what happened as the rule but as the exception. Almost all the warbands removed were darkoaths and from the first edition. That was not a coincidence. And nowadays GW releases units for AoS using warcry, so it wouldn't be that weird to have plague monks. The only thing is that it won't be that soon, IMO.

Well Warcry warbands are for warcry the game first and foremost. Warbands have to be design for each individual model to serve a role in the game but they don’t translate well as standard unit in AoS. Chameleon Skink are the onky warband that every replace a unit  from warcry to AoS but it only worked because CHam Skinks are a Specialist unit  for the most part. Gorger also replace a unit but change the profile and are also a specilist unit
 

a unit like Plague monks is like Clanrats, a standard unit with uniform design that probably should be release from AoS proper and not Warcry.

 

[Ejecutor]

40 minutes ago, novakai said:

Well Warcry warbands are for warcry the game first and foremost. Warbands have to be design for each individual model to serve a role in the game but they don’t translate well as standard unit in AoS. Chameleon Skink are the onky warband that every replace a unit  from warcry to AoS but it only worked because CHam Skinks are a Specialist unit  for the most part. Gorger also replace a unit but change the profile and are also a specilist unit
 

a unit like Plague monks is like Clanrats, a standard unit with uniform design that probably should be release from AoS proper and not Warcry.

 

I would say Wildercorpses are also a standard unit, without necessarily being a specialist one, that was released via Warcry. And little by little, IMO, we will see more cases like this one.

[novakai]

33 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

I would say Wildercorpses are also a standard unit, without necessarily being a specialist one, that was released via Warcry. And little by little, IMO, we will see more cases like this one.

Don’t know about that the more recent warbands have been buy one for collection but not a going to be a main part of your army.

they look like they turning away from players that buying 30 Slitterfangs to make up your army and now warbands being just a one off  flavorful unit now. with maybe a niche utility use.

Edited April 17 by novakai

[MitGas]

1 hour ago, Gitzdee said:

What about daemons like pink horrors or the coloured gods? GW wants to move away from that too? We are talking about marines etc but isnt this the same problem? 

I think it would be great to not have daemons locked into a scheme. I know it isnt a rule, but ive never seen anyone move away from the GW scheme.

Well, there are lots of different shades of pinks (from candy-colored to fleshy, to reddish to almost purple) and they could be multicolored too (like having blue limbs) seeing how they‘re made up of blue horrors anyways… in various artworks (and the background) they‘re much more varied than the minis by the Eavy Metal team. Some, like the Silver Tower sculpt got painted more interestingly too. 
 

The classic colors for each God are the typical choices but frankly you can paint a chaotic force however you please. Yep, blur or green or red or purple might be the go-to choice but those colors are not set in stone, usually just a form of superstition (as in lucky colors) and frankly have been modified, expanded upon and changed over the years anyways. 
 

So paint them however you want. Does it look strange to see green bloodletters? Yup, it even feels off after so many years of indoctrination. There‘s an established look for things but doesn‘t mean they have to be painted like that. I doubt Khorne would care, so why would you? Can‘t expect people to like it though but who cares, those are your minis. 
 

I think in some cases, like the one you’ve given, where you field a unit that is named after a color like Pink Horrors or you play an army with an established color scheme it feels a bit off but even within the confines of the background there is lots of room for creative paintjobs in those cases. They could just have pink flames or eyes. Limiting units of Tzeentch to any color feels pretty off anyways. „Disrespecting“ the lore might not be appreciated by others but if that‘s the case, try to play with other people. I‘d rather play against pink goblins if it makes my opponent happy. And they should be greenskins in theory. But invent a decent reason why they are not (might some pigmentation-mutation due to some rare shrooms and you can appease even fanatics of the lore and got some cool story for you army to boot. Dunno why people lament it, GW has always been pretty open about colors. 
 

There‘s only one solid exception in a tournament setting and that is when you paint e.g. your marines as another chapter than the one whose rules you use. I mean, explaining it would sort that problem too in like 5 secs but it is what it is…. So don‘t worry and mock the people that can‘t get over you painting your minis differently if needed! 🥳

[Vasshpit]

I'm feeling pretty good and haven't posted lately. I hope y'all are having a fantastic night or day!

With the design finalization of stormcast coming in strong I'd love either a updated or suitable challenger for the MEGABOSS of megabosses, Gordrakk. It's showing enough of early AoS design to warrant my claims and to have his thunder stolen like it was does need a recoconsilition. 

Rando, I know. 

Night yall. ✌️

[Danaork]

Hey chers amis du forum, ça fait un moment que je ne suis pas venu ici. Alors, quelles sont les nouvelles/rumeurs/fuites ?

Edited April 17 by Danaork

[Dragon-knight77]

22 minutes ago, Danaork said:

Hey chers amis du forum, ça fait un moment que je ne suis pas venu ici. Alors, quelles sont les nouvelles/rumeurs/fuites ?

New 4th edition models reveals

there also this rumor teasing about this free city of Hell Crown

oh and there been a bunch of model squatting including Beast of chaos, Bonesplitterz, Sacrosanct Stormcast & some miscelaneous resin models like Valkyia, Scyalla, Blue Scribes, Epidemius, eternity warden ect ect.

so a bunch of stuff happen

Edited April 17 by Dragon-knight77

[CommissarRotke]

6 hours ago, novakai said:

Skaven tend to be more earthly brown or red though 

though Skyre unit sometimes have dark bluish green color armor that stormfiends have.

what they're wearing yes, but from the 4e trailer we're going to see tons of warpstone, including Stormcast going inside the Vermindoom itself. Gold armor under a sickly green light is going to straight up look sickly green and not have much contrast at all

[Danaork]

11 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said:

Les nouveaux modèles de la 4e édition sont révélés

il y a aussi cette rumeur teasing sur cette ville libre de Hell Crown

oh et il y a eu un tas de modèles accroupis, dont Beast of chaos, Bonesplitterz, Sacrosanct Stormcast et divers modèles en résine comme Valkyia, Scyalla, Blue Scribes, Epidemius, Eternity Warden ect ect.

donc il se passe plein de choses

i have already seen the models on instagram but i don't have heard talking about Hell Crown.

[Dragon-knight77]

10 minutes ago, Danaork said:

i have already seen the models on instagram but i don't have heard talking about Hell Crown.

The Heraldry was shown off in the April Fool video so people weren't up in arm over it

But show up again in the tutorial painting video background with maps and stuff i show off above

 

[Magnusaur]

1 hour ago, novakai said:

Don’t know about that the more recent warbands have been buy one for collection but not a going to be a main part of your army.

they look like they turning away from players that buying 30 Slitterfangs to make up your army and now warbands being just a one off  flavorful unit now. with maybe a niche utility use.

I'm not 100% on this, but aren't the new Water temple Lumineth looking to become a fairly standard unit for AOS (even if half of them wear overalls).

It's kind of a mixed bag and while I don't want GW to limit themselves needlessly with WarCry, it feels like a fantastic avenue for updating/introducing stuff like Gutter/Night Runners, Plague Monks, Grave Guard, Saurus Guard, Greatswordsmen, etc.

[bethebee]

2 minutes ago, Magnusaur said:

I'm not 100% on this, but aren't the new Water temple Lumineth looking to become a fairly standard unit for AOS (even if half of them wear overalls).

It's kind of a mixed bag and while I don't want GW to limit themselves needlessly with WarCry, it feels like a fantastic avenue for updating/introducing stuff like Gutter/Night Runners, Plague Monks, Grave Guard, Saurus Guard, Greatswordsmen, etc.

i wouldn't say so specifically because of the base size difference in half the squad having big bases and more armor and the other half having smaller ones with little armor; it also seems like (from a lore perspective) that the River temple will have more models than most Lumineth armies, so splitting the unit into two smaller squads likely wouldn't work either.

[TheMawr]

3 hours ago, novakai said:

Well Warcry warbands are for warcry the game first and foremost. Warbands have to be design for each individual model to serve a role in the game but they don’t translate well as standard unit in AoS. Chameleon Skink are the onky warband that every replace a unit  from warcry to AoS but it only worked because CHam Skinks are a Specialist unit  for the most part. Gorger also replace a unit but change the profile and are also a specilist unit
 

a unit like Plague monks is like Clanrats, a standard unit with uniform design that probably should be release from AoS proper and not Warcry.

 

 

Personally I think a more Warcry'ish approach to Plaguemonks is really interesting ( basically, an expanded variant of the WHU warband ) I never liked the more "militarised" change to plaguemonks nor the individualisation of the clans. When I had my skaven army ( mostly metal.. old times.) I always felt that the clanrats for clan pestilens.. should be clanrats, likewise the clanrats for clan eshin too should be clanrats. I dont know if that was based on how things where then or if that was my own headcanon.

I had converted a bunch of clanrats with little oriental strawhats for my eshin side. But most of my army was born out of my favorite childhood cartoon Secret of the Nimh.. mad science everywhere.

[novakai]

15 minutes ago, Magnusaur said:

I'm not 100% on this, but aren't the new Water temple Lumineth looking to become a fairly standard unit for AOS (even if half of them wear overalls).

It's kind of a mixed bag and while I don't want GW to limit themselves needlessly with WarCry, it feels like a fantastic avenue for updating/introducing stuff like Gutter/Night Runners, Plague Monks, Grave Guard, Saurus Guard, Greatswordsmen, etc.

They are all in different base size though and maybe different profile between the armor one and the light blue guys. they are not as bad as the new NH, OBR, and Sylvaneth which are just complete mix max of different type of creatures.

but I feel it be better if refreshes came from proper AoS release and not Warcry where they have to design them all different profiles hence why I argue things like Plague monks and Saurus warriors should not be refresh through warcry. Since AoS boxes are better for bulk buying then Warcry.

Anyway Majority of Warcry release have been just unique Specilist units that are brand new with only Gorgers and Camo Skinks being replacement for niche units.

[DeLewko]

7 hours ago, Mr_Whateley said:

I’ve been around here for a couple of weeks now and I always forget to ask: Do you think we’re going to keep the ugly-old plague monks kit? GW didn’t include them on the “soon gone” skaven list and I fear we’re stuck with the same 20 year old models for who knows how much time…

After painting some of the plaguepack models there’s no chance at all I’m going to paint the old ones…

Gw has a tendency lately to leave 1 elite infantry untouched when redoing a line, see seraphon with temple guard and sbg with grave guard. No idea when they will update those kits. Theory floating around was that they left it for warcry update, but it has been 3 years since sbg was released and we still have them.. 

they will 100% be updated since we got the test models through WHU and I hope its pretty soon 

[DeLewko]

Double post

Edited April 17 by DeLewko

[GloomkingWortwazi]

Stop saying Grave Guard and update in the same sentences. You're making me itch over here! 😂

[BarakUrbaz]

16 minutes ago, DeLewko said:

Gw has a tendency lately to leave 1 elite infantry untouched when redoing a line, see seraphon with temple guard and sbg with grave guard. No idea when they will update those kits. Theory floating around was that they left it for warcry update, but it has been 3 years since sbg was released and we still have them.. 

they will 100% be updated since we got the test models through WHU and I hope its pretty soon 

Can't wait for Fyreslayers to be redone so everyone complains about Hearthguard being the same while Vulkites look better than them.