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https://www.vrfocus.com/2018/03/ar-card-game-warhammer-age-of-sigma-champions-announced/

On the one hand this shows that the license is actually atractive to start bringing in people that ask it.

On the other one, I am fairly puzzled they greenlit this as the first AoS license. It has me interested but I honestly thought they would start up with something bigger.

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Hi guys, perhaps it was discussed before but I just found out through Bell of Lost Souls that PlayFusion obtained a licence for PlayFusion to create an Age of Sigmar Trading Card Game, called Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Champions. As a board/mini/cardgame player I'm certainly interested in this and would love to know if some of you are familiar with PlayFusion products.

From the Bell of Lost Souls article itself:

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PlayFusion will launch the new Warhammer Age of Sigmar Champions experience in July 2018. The physical trading card game will feature hundreds of collectible cards that players can use to build their own decks to fit their strategy and tactics.

The physical cards will also come to life when viewed through PlayFusion’s Enhanced Reality Engine™, allowing fans to unlock various enhanced gameplay options while also giving them an exciting new way to explore the Warhammer Age of Sigmar world. PlayFusion will continue to partner with Games Workshop for many years to come to offer new game expansions and additional card reveals.

Available for iOS, Android and PC, the game will give the Warhammer community a new way to experience the universe either physically or on their favorite devices with online play. Warhammer Age of Sigmar Champions will also feature unique physical-to-digital experiences that allows players to import their physical cards into the digital game and play them online.

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In addition to that your allready able to sign up here: https://www.warhammerchampions.com/

As someone who watches these kinds of games from time to time I have yet to find a succes story of a game being completely able to integrate both physical and digital gaming fantastically in there system but I am certainly interested in this product. Even if it's a short lived thing, I hope to see the wonderful Age of Sigmar artwork on these cards and at least have something neat to collect. Afterall Games Workshop is printing cards too these days and I think this is why they searched for a design team familiar with such games also.

I'd love to know what you guys think about it! In addition those who have played Lightseekers are certainly welcome to explain what that game is about. To me it looks like Heartstone but I wouldn't be opposed to a Heartstone like Age of Sigmar cardgame at all.

If anything it's interesting news to me!

Cheers,

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9 minutes ago, KillagoreFaceslasha said:

*Unsheathes Katana*

I pick Mcleod!!!!

It's cardgame videogame Killagore! :P 

But as a principle I do think the game can lead to some really interesting options. Basically the Grand Allegiances could lead the path as colours and have Keywords like MtG matter depending on Leader played. But we'll see how it pans out :) 

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5 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said:

I've just merged the topics so you are both one ;) 

Sounds interesting. Think I'll need to see it in action before I get too excited. Love Hearthstone but just hoping this isn't a copy with a bit of AR

I just love how it all basically went full circle :P But that topic is neither here nor there offcourse. However what I mean by it is:

- First World of Warcraft was intended to be a PC game designed for Games Workshop with Warhammer Fantasy in mind.
- Games Workshop refused it, WoW became it's own thing.
- Thanks to the decline of WoW online mmorpg Heartstone came to life, as a cardgame that really conquered the world more or less.
- Many Heartstone like games appear. 
- Games Workshop now embraces the compagny who got big with a Heartstone-like game.

Just gotta love that :D . No ill will intented. But imagne if GW accepted "WoW" at the time. Assuming the rest of the future continued it could have been one incredible Blizzard/Games Worskhop combination...

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25 minutes ago, Killax said:

I just love how it all basically went full circle :P But that topic is neither here nor there offcourse. However what I mean by it is:

- First World of Warcraft was intended to be a PC game designed for Games Workshop with Warhammer Fantasy in mind.
- Games Workshop refused it, WoW became it's own thing.
- Thanks to the decline of WoW online mmorpg Heartstone came to life, as a cardgame that really conquered the world more or less.
- Many Heartstone like games appear. 
- Games Workshop now embraces the compagny who got big with a Heartstone-like game.

Just gotta love that :D . No ill will intented. But imagne if GW accepted "WoW" at the time. Assuming the rest of the future continued it could have been one incredible Blizzard/Games Worskhop combination...

Wow wasn't the first product that Blizzard and Games Workshop tried to band together. Warcraft1 was the one that tried that and was discarded. WoW was dones between wc3 and wc3ft, and at that time, Blizzard was working all just by itself. Btw, even if hearthstone/OW are Blizzard main flags, WoW is still their first moneymaker product (even if wow's economy model is outdated...). 

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40 minutes ago, Killax said:

It's cardgame videogame Killagore! :P 

Just picked on this. My bad.

*grabs deck*
I place McLeod in attack position!

 

Anyways, their other game, Lightseekers, seems to have a solid rating. Some have pointed its a bit generic but I think that, with part of the work already done by GW, that won't be too much of an issue.

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56 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said:

Sorry bit of generalisation off me but basically I hope this isn't just a straight copy of something with a Age of Sigmar brand on it. Be interesting to see how it turns out

Yeah I don't think it will directly be the same as Heartstone but I do think a lot of the designs from Lightseekers will be used for this game also.
What makes Heartstone so cool is the WoWtcg concept of a Leader and we do have confirmation that this game will revolve around four Leaders at first. My best guess for that is that the first four Leaders will all be linked to one of the four Grand Allegiances... Just because from a AoS standpoint that would make the most sence to me.

Other than that a lot of options are possible. I think that FFG did a swell job for WFB and 40K cardgames also but I also believe that an easier system with less extras bits and bobs will lead to a more solid game that will be picked up easier by cardgame players. One issue I had with the FFG cardgames was that they always put some extra stuff in there, which is nice but also annoying at the same time.

Looking into Lightseekers a bit I think it's a fine system. I'd love to know what the actual plans are for Age of Sigmar Champions and if they just started the design or allready have a clear plan. We will see.

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I'm very heavily invested into Hearthstone as my digital product of this type. I also pick up a booster box from each Final Fantasy TCG release (even though I haven't had much opportunity to play of late) and am getting back into MtG this year, so that covers off the physical side.

I find it a slightly odd choice of first IP, as I wonder if it will appeal to some of the same people who like Shadespire and I'm not sure you'd want to have the two competing. It'll be very interesting to see where this sits.

I'll keep an intrigued eye on this one for sure.

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8 minutes ago, Ar-Pharazôn said:

I'm curious about the potential audience. The name has recognition for us, but how will it be promoted to people outside of wargaming? Hearthstone had the benefit of coming from a much more popular IP. 

The way I see it is that Games Workshop stores will likely function more and more as game stores in the future. 

Since 2015 Games Workshop has basically invested a lot of time in money in their related content that isn't ****** a wargame. E.g. Warhammer Quest, Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire, all the returns of the old Specialist Games. It's because of that that I also think that the combination of these compagnies will lead to a game that might be GW exclusive but is another great cardgame that can function as a game in and on itself. 

In general I'd say board/mini and cardgames serve the same audience so the potential audience is really there for anyone who's interested in Games Workshop games. As a fan of Shadespire and Age of Sigmar the army game I've found that the audiences crosses over really well. For sure it isn't for everybody but it also doesn't need to be. GW has their printing facility and PlayFusion has the knowhow for their carddesign and digitalisation :) 

The only downside of licensed games remains that it is still in hands of GW and if it flops the game might be very short lived. FFG used to do a lot with GW also but since their separation their Warhammer games basically died. At the same time though I think GW has a good plan for this, this time around.

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Played a lot of TCG's in my life, still actively playing WoW TCG (check the reddit for discord if interested), and I'm hoping it's a digital card game.

Might be really cool, I'll wait before passing judgement.

Though I may refrain from getting close to another big  GW product line, as I'm sure these cards will not be cheap, it's GW here.

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Yeah, this is pretty cool. I've been playing Hearthstone for a while, but haven't bought into the new expansions and haven't preordered the Witchwood one. Might jump over to this game if it gains a playerbase and the gameplay is solid.

Probably will pick up the core set or whatever is released regardless.

Huge + for me that it can be played both physically and digitally. I prefer to play with and collect. physical cards but that's not always an option.

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Excited for this. I have a good sized lightseekers collection from the first set. all 6 Starters and about 100 booster packs of cards.

If they match the card quality of lightseekers, im very hopeful. They have almost a plastic like feel on the back of the cards so very durable.

The game itself is simple, but if your interested in this I do recommend trying out lightseekers.  I hope Sigmar has a little more depth as lightseekers is more designed for a younger audience.

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huge fan of lightseekers. really unique game with a fascinating way of dealing with 'resources'.

I was ecstatic to find out playfusion was going to pick up the Aos liscense! already subrcribed to the newsletter! i would say even if youre not a ccg kind of gamer, to definitely pick this up when it comes out, game play is fast and furious and the rules never clog game flow. i can see this becoming Aos' very own combat cards if you dont collect boosters. however this is the perfect oppurtunity to convert the lush IP into more content, locations ,items, attacks etc. i will definitely collect this!

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