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  1. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    Yea that’s why I said borderline necessary. If you are going for a straight up alpha strike that is meant to cripple the enemy I think he is close to an auto include. Otherwise a good unit but not critical. The hit and run trait can help him survive a bit longer, too.
  2. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    If you’re going very Squig heavy, I’d think yes. Every extra unit of Bounders/Hoppers/Herd magnifies his return on investment. Just himself and a small number of Squigs might not be the best points investment. But in a Squig army a Mangler boss seems pretty strong/maybe borderline necessary.
  3. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    See, I feel the opposite. I think the Mangler is a great “distraction Carnifex” in any list on its own, that is only enhanced by thematic buffs. With +1 to wound it’ll do great work, but without it it’ll be fine. It’s relatively mobile, and can get to places it needs to be, and maybe not need a tough 9” charge like the Skitterstrand. I’m not saying the spider is bad by any means, but for around the same price (or as I pointed out, Manglers+shaman is about equal to Webspinner) you can’t go wrong. Just pure damage alone, the Manglers win, and I don’t think ability to deepstrike makes the Skitterstrand a better choice. Opponents will realize quickly that it doesn’t pose a massive offensive threat and deal with it accordingly.
  4. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    Eh. It brings spells, one of which buffs only SPIDERFANG, and only marginally increases its own utility. I thought the discussion was purely non-character versions tho? For the Webspinner price I get Manglers and a shaman for similar, and can access any lore. Even the Foot Webspinner if I want. Squigs have great buffs available, if we’re moving beyond the solo models. Better, I think, than the spiders. In the mid-200s range I think Manglers are the obvious better choice. They are very self sufficient but can benefit greatly from buffs where there. Really tho, it’s probably don’t to personal preference. Neither is SO good or bad that they’re obvious auto-includes or leave-homes. I just like the idea of a major melee threat that, if you don’t quite kill it the whole way, suddenly it’s perfectly fine again. And the Skitterstrand deepstriking behind enemy lines sounds nice, but unsupported it’ll just amount to a distraction (albeit a good one) and maybe objective grabber.
  5. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    I think just by the numbers the Mangler Squigs outmatch the Skitterstrand. By a decent margin too. Plus as they get closer to death they get better again, while the spider just plain degrades. The Mangler is even 20pts cheaper. The spider can appear wherever tho. That’s nice I suppose. I’ll be much more likely to take Manglers than a Skitterstrand personally.
  6. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    True. I'm most concerned with updates to warscroll builder! Really want to start toying around with some lists!
  7. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    I don't know a ton about pre-Gloomspite grots, but I don't think that too much was completely eliminated. Sourbreath Troggoths are gone, I believe. Squig Herds are a combined Squigs/Herders warscroll now. There might be some more I'm missing. Moonclan infantry are not Shootas and Stabbas. Shootas are armed with bow and slitta, while Stabbas have a choice between Pokin' Spear and Stabba (I know that makes it confusing, since they're called Stabbas!). Standard order of spears hit on 5+ but have 2" reach, while stabbas are 1" reach but hit on 4+. The app is definitely not up to date. There are only a few units in the Gloomspite list, and whiles they're all up to date there is a lot missing (various characters, mangler squigs, snufflers, and probably a lot more I'm forgetting). The next round of pre-release starts tomorrow. The app should hopefully update along with that, and I'm also hoping Warscroll Builder updates soon too! Hope that helps! EDIT - As an aside, some things seems to have gained, not new warscrolls but enough changes and distinction to be actual separate units. The big case here is the Araknarok. The 3 different versions all seem to have their uses, and aren't identical in rules/points anymore, so that's a plus!
  8. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    All Moonclan, Spiderfang, and Troggoth is being rolled into Gloomspite (plus Gargants). Nothing is being rebranded, however not everything is GROT. Certain things are only MOONCLAN, SPIDERFANG, etc. Most seems to prevent hiding fanatics where it wouldn't make sense and other odd rules interactions. No Gitmob, however. They can still ally in, as can Bonesplitters and Greenskins.
  9. FPC

    Variable Attack Characteristic

    Fair enough. Still think it could use specific clarification but I’m convinced. Honestly it’s probably better that way.
  10. FPC

    Variable Attack Characteristic

    Well yea that's what I meant. Do you have a reference in the rules anywhere to support the other point tho? That's what I'm looking for. Like I said I've seen both so clarity in the rules or an FAQ would be nice! My thinking to the counterpoint is that the UNIT has an attacks characteristic. More specifically, the WEAPON has an attack characteristic of d6 (for Fanatics) and I don't see anything that clarifies how this works. But generally similar characteristics don't vary between models in a unit. The reason I got to this question is that in 40k I believe this is clarified (with a general answer in the rules as well as special cases pertaining to certain units).
  11. If a unit has a variable attack characteristic like d3 or d6, do you roll once for the unit each fight phase and multiple by how many are in the unit, or do you roll for each model and total it up? Thinking of units like Fanatics. I've seen both ways referenced and/or done in battle reports.
  12. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    What allows Grots to reroll all hits?
  13. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    Any word on what the dead goblin on a base that appears with Fanatics and Skragrott is for? Just aesthetic I guess?
  14. FPC

    AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

    Agreed, effective rend -1 is excellent. Imagining 60 Stabbas with both Snufflers and Sporesplattas buffs, under the moon, mortals on 6s from foot Loonboss, with the opponent effected by Mommet -1 sv...then throw in some nets, sneaky distraction, the Gobbopaloza -1....crazy! Obviously a lot of moving parts but even getting a few of these going is huge!
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