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I managed to get some test games with our new rules. Played against Tzeentch, OBR and Skaven. Lost against Tzeentch and OBR, won against Skaven. Stole a few list ideas from you guys, my thanks to @Enoby @swarmofseals. That being said, I did made mistakes during deployment against OBR, things could have gone a bit differently if I did not mess that up.
Overall, my concerns have been somewhat mitigated, we are solid mid-tier army. The new Hedonites play very much into strategic trapping and pinning down targets and denying your opponents chance to engage you unless conditions favor us greatly. Control of table is crucial.
Glutos is excellent, no issues there. Worth every point.
Sigvald is better than Light of Eltharion, he is a amazing beatstick well worth his cost. He is slow and has no meaningful synergy with the rest of army.
LoP, Shardspeaker and Syll'Esske are all worth their cost. More than pleased.
Blissbarb Archers, Blissbarb Seekers and Slickblades Seekers are great. Position Seekers properly in Lurid Haze and they are great.
Sadly, the units that appeal to me greatly, Myrmidesh and Symbaresh are really not that good. Their overall stats are simply not worth the cost.
Slaangors are a joke.
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9 hours ago, Jaskier said:
Also, yes, can we please hold off on sending rules feedback about an army none of us have actually played any proper games or really got to grips with yet? If the people who complained about Seraphon and KO at release (and before you try to change history, there were loads) did the same, what kind of message would that have sent to GW? Look where those armies are now. Our faction mechanics have been completely redesigned, and our units are obviously priced with the summoning changes in mind. Summoning is Slaanesh' main mechanic, whether we like it or not, so trying to argue that our units shouldn't be priced with it in mind is just foolhardy.
You want my advice, having seen this kind of pessimism for every single new book GW has released for the past 10 years I've been playing competitively? Wait. Play a bunch of games. Try things. You'll find - as is almost always the case - that most of your pessimism is unjustified.
I have placed purely out of love for Slaanesh and aesthetics on new models, a rather larger order.
I have zero intention of sending any feedback before I have at least 30 games.
18 items, 652.50£
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An in-depth statistical analysis of each unit in absolutely necessary. As is actual game data.
Nobody is sending anything until we have that.
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It is true that a proper and in-depth analysis must be done before any email be sent to GW.
That being said, a email document is already being created.
For the purpose of adding the thoughts of everyone who are not entirely happy or expressed concern to various degrees with our new rules, I am going to tag the following users: @AngryPanda@Rivener@Benkei @Poryague@Klamm@yukishiro1@JackStreicher@Feii@Inferno@azdimy
The initial draft of the document will be posted by user @AngryPanda
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Well I finally got a 360 view of Glutos (that sounds wrong), but is not the entire palanquin model far too in the back when viewed in 360 option?
Katakros and Saint Katherine are up close in 360 view.
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Well I finally got a 360 view of Glutos (that sounds wrong), but is not the entire palanquin model far too in the back when viewed in 360 option?
Katakros and Saint Katherine are up close in 360 view.
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3 minutes ago, Benkei said:
I don't really mind if units are a little overcosted, but what gets me is the total lack of creativity and lore/stats relation with the exception of Glutos. It feels really lazy, the example with the Blissbarb arrows and the Symbaresh weapons being the most egregious one.
Why couldn't most units be more like Glutos and the Shardspeaker? Not powerwise but varietywise
Precisely.
Maybe all the creativity went into sculpting models and afterwards everyone had no more creativity for lore inspired rules.
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I made a fool of myself when I wrote that "Overall, I am pleased". I have been reading full tome at Imgur on a link from /tg/.
The mortals are far too much expensive for what they do.
Also, I am was expecting more rules that reflect actual lore. With the exception of Glutos who is masterfully written. What happened elsewhere? Zero reflection of actual lore on rules. We debated what special rule Blissbarb archers will have, well basically boring as hell. Symbaresh have only one weapon profile, a unit where every model is packing two different weapons? The rules overall, come as if they had zero desire to invest some creativity.
I agree with @AngryPanda completely on marketing. They did not hype, because they have very little to hype.
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As others have said, the rules have been leaked.
Overall, I am more than pleased.
We got beautiful models, new art and some very interesting new game mechanics and synergies for us.
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3 minutes ago, Gistradagis said:
Perhaps they have a special rule. Cuz the article explicitly says you don't want them vs hordes, but rather for heroes and monsters lol.
This is purely my own lore desire, but I was hoping them to be infantry blender.
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No rend on Symbaresh? Well, that is odd.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/12/discover-the-new-rules-that-make-the-hedonites-of-slaanesh-even-more-gloriously-despicable/
Same here!
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Anyone please correct me if I am wrong, but it appears Syll'esske Host and Wrath of Everchosen sub-factions are gone?
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Taking into account rule leaks thus far, our list building options just got far more viable and interesting.
Depravity mechanic has been properly reworked.
Hilarious that they did not hype this.
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36 minutes ago, Chaos Shepard said:
Wouldn't that make the more human ones strait cannibals.
Read the Dark Harvest book, where Kurnoth speaks to protagonist throughout the book and finally appears in the end.
SpoilerHe devours all of his worshipers.
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17 minutes ago, Aeryenn said:
I'm really excited for another Kurnothi model. This greatly increases the chance that Kurnothi will receive a full AoS army one day. That's my most anticipated army.
Besides Hedonites, Kurnothi are my second most hoped after army.
That being said, we are now talking about quite a lot of new armies.
GW has always had stories or even one off miniatures of certain factions that were never properly fleshed out as standalone factions.
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I have decided to withhold any criticism or approval of new rules until they are fully revealed to us. I did, however, express and I will express my concern once more that new rules could be below average.
But look, even if our rules end up being below average, we still got some of the most beautiful models GW ever put out. Plus new artwork and hopefully new stories. ☺️
Also, this is coming from a person who plays in highly competitive local meta, everyone is prepping for tournaments constantly (Covid-19 breaking the routine atm) and the reaction when I bring the Fiends on table is usually either "Why are you wasting time on them?" or smirk.
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6 minutes ago, SirSalabean said:
I love the idea of new beastly wood elves but I’d think they’d be an expansion to Sylvaneth. I hope they get rid of the fiery mowhawks too they look hideous especially on the shapeshifter cat it put me of getting the warband
Will they be a expansion to Sylvaneth? Most likely.
Is that the best choice to fully explore the Kurnothi? No.
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Regarding Kurnothi as a faction.
If we are ever to get them, I believe for a proper exploration of all themes of a Hunting deity, that a standalone faction is a must. Forcing them to share battletome with Sylvaneth is a bad option in terms of lore, aesthetics and possible rules. Kurnothi are the exploration of savage bestial aelves dedicated to a Hunter deity.
I would love to see in AOS 3. a story where Kurnoth is reborn truly and tried to make realm of Ghur his own. After all, there was a description in Orruk battletome that Ghur was once ruled by hunter kings and shape-changing beast lords.
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I am fairly certain that the company the size and profile of GW has by now found optimal way to work under Covid-19 pandemic circumstances. Admittedly enough, I am hyped purely because having Slaanesh mortals army was a dream of mine back in WHFB. That is enough for me.
Could they have done a better job at marketing? Yes.
Well, maybe today leaves us all speechless and awed.
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18 minutes ago, Neverchosen said:
@Sorrow clearly I somehow messed up with my grammar as it should be plural Age of Morathis.
Unless Morathi was already the plural of Morathus? 😮All cool.
I made double posts by mistake when the first one was supposed to play on the character from Resident Evil 8 that has become a meme.
AoS 2 - Hedonites of Slaanesh Discussion
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Did not heard anything about that.
New Hedonite battletome next year?
I mean, I would love it if we get a third wave of new models, that would be pure joy.
But that is incredibly unfair to other factions.