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I wish that Grimnir and the Fyreslayers were under the Destruction banner. I also think it would have been cool if IDK were also destruction but their associated God obviously wouldn't be.

I have seen people suggest Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers. This makes me sad as I like his Octopus pal and want to add them to my IDK army!

Hey all, I am still slowly working on my Slaves to Darkness before I start my Idoneth Battleforce in earnest. However, social distancing will have me starting on my Idoneth earlier than anticipated. But I was wondering if anyone had some good references for sea creatures that they use to inspire their painting? I was also wondering if the points drop on the Allopex has improved their viability. I plan on running a shark no matter what but I am curious if I should just stick with one or run them both?

Pre-release I was really hoping that the Eye of the Gods table would become less random and more in line with the summoning mechanics for other Chaos armies. Namely if your hero achieved certain actions they would get blessings that could be spent on the table and these would include spell casting. I was actually hoping that the rules would follow the god specific point generation methods, so if you marked your character Khrone they would have to generate Blood Tithe points or Slaanesh Depravity points to spend on the Eye of the Gods. This would require developing a point method for undivided which would probably follow the current Eye of the God rules. To a further point I thought choosing your points on spawndom would result in the character becoming a spawn upon defeat; so there would not be a situation in which your general is randomly taken out. I think this would have been a fun and manageable approach to the Eye of the Gods but it would not have felt as in line with Chaos. So in the end, I am glad that my idea did not come to fruition but I still may try and develop my own ruleset for this approach to see how tenable it is.

Thoughts and impressions: AOS: The Hammer models look amazing and I will need some of those crests they have on top of their helmets. The big Cow Mountain model is not my favourite, but I do like that evokes a Keeper of Secrets and look forward to seeing those two models go toe to toe. The Scions look way cooler than I would have expected and I really want to get them. However I might use them as characters in my Chaos army as opposed to a unit. I might want to use the one with the staff as a Sorcerer Lord and the unit champion as a Chao Lord, maybe the Executioner as a Dark Oath Chieftain. Is this something that would be frowned upon? LOTR: I do not need a Rohan army, I do not need a Rohan army... Éomer looks fantastic and the Rohirrim are my favourite of Tolkien's cultures. But I do not need a Rohan army... 40K: Fabius Bile looks great and seems like a fun character. I am thinking of starting 40k when I finish up my Idoneth Deppkin and Emperors Children seems like it might be the direction I take (Chaos Knights, Chaos Space Marines and Necrons are my other interests). Lion El’Jonson seems like a cool model and I enjoyed the animated work and might check it out. Overall: I liked almost everything but feel let down after all the hype. Hopefully, we get some info about the Son's next week.

I should clarify that I do not expect my desire to see Malerion become an agent of Slaanesh will come true. However, my hope is to see Malerion become one of the most important figures within the Mortal Realms. I would want Malerion to be unwittingly following Slaanesh who would stay bound throughout this scenario. Malerion would see himself as a worthy replacement for Slaanesh and with the power of a Chaos God could bring about his version of order. He would unknowingly be playing right into the Chaos God's own hand. I also think the idea that Morathi has finally turned her back on Slaanesh only for the dark God to get its claws on her son could make for some compelling narrative potential for the Daughters of Khaine. Again, it won't happen but it would create a cool faction that would be narratively grey as it would be aligned to Chaos but also tied directly to Order. Plus Sigmar's pantheon would constantly try and win him back as an ally. He could dramatically tell them that he is doing what he must to stop chaos by embracing it. Despite not expecting this to actually happen, I still do think Slaanesh Mortals will be made and they will be Aelvish.

@Overread that is precisely why I hope that it happens.

I am inclined to agree that the release of Slaanesh will be a big deal. I am thinking that the reason we haven't seen Malerion yet, is that Slaanesh has been tempting him this whole time. I am hoping that his Aelves will become the mortal followers of Slaanesh. Beyond that I think that there will be a narrative split with Order and Destruction fighting while Chaos and Death continue to duke it out. That way everyone is involved in a conflict and all players can be sold further supplements.

As I said I am not super well versed in 40k. I have a general knowledge and have seen some speculation regarding those two factions. I knew that Eldar had lots of fine-cast but didn't know it cut into base infantry. I also didn't know that about the Tau and Kroot, very interesting.

I am going to post my uninformed and baseless speculation. AOS: I think that we will very likely get a fairly complete picture of the Lumineth range and a teaser for the Sons of Behemat, I think there will be a teaser image that will hint at new armies. I imagine an image featuring a representative of each grand alliance, Lumineth, Sons of Behemat, Vampires and Slaanesh mortals. I think that there will be a new Warcy box featuring Scions of the Flame and hopefully 'a new season' of warbands. We will also get a preview of the missing Underworlds Warbands, if there are any still outstanding reveals (I have not been following the reveals very closely). Personally I would be intrigued by a new Warhammer quest box for AOS but do not consider it likely. 4OK: I do not play 40K so you can ignore this section entirely as it is entirely baseless speculation on my part. I am hoping to see reveals for Dark Mechanicum and Exodites as those are two armies that would really make me consider joining the game. I also expect a new Kill Team expansion box in the same vein as Rogue Trader and something Blackstone Fortress related. I would love for a return of Battlefleet Gothic.

I know that this is entirely baseless speculation, but I am curious if the Scions of Flame were delayed to kickstart a second season of Warcry releases. If so this could be an entirely new warcry warband which would be neat. I am also becoming more convinced that something interesting is going on with Slaanesh and Malerion...

I absolutely love the new mage and the Daughters of Khaine Underworlds set. However, I am sad about no Warcy news and the archers are thus far my least favourite Lumineth models (I actually don't mind the hats, they simply feel to static to me). Oh and I am totally converting those Necromunda 'Death-maidens' into Warqueens for my chaos army! 😃 So going in with no expectations, I am actually overall quite happy with these reveals.

As excited as I am for new rumours, I am also looking for a breather post Seraphon. Hopefully we get some cool models for Warcry and Underworlds. As for Adepticon I have no clues or even speculation. However, here are my biggest hopes: Lumineth for Order, Sons of Behemat for Destruction, Slaanesh Mortals for Chaos (Aelvish followers) and something Vampire themed for Death. I also would like a supplement for naval/aerial units with a focus on Idoneth, Kharadron, Scourge Privateers and hopefully Grotbag Scuttlers and or Vampire Coast. Also as someone with only passing familiarity with 40k, I am still holding out hope for a Dark Mechanicum army.

I am playing 30 warriors in my list right now. 20 with sword and shield and two units of five with two hand weapons. It is fun and makes them feel unique, as I have a nice defensive core and two choppy units. They make a fun little hammer and anvil. I also play casually and doubt this is the most efficient use of my warriors.

Seraphon are sounding very fun and it seems as though they provide very versatile play options. I was originally contented with many of the smaller factions in AOS but this makes me think every army needs the option to, at least, run a pure monster variant.

I really like all the start collecting boxes particularly the new Skink box. My cousin is just getting into AOS with his old lizardmen and this is such great timing.

Is that not what I was stating? I think that chariots or warmachines would give Ironjawz new options that differ aesthetically from Bonesplitterz. I think it would diversify the range, especially with a hero option allowing a chariot to be built in two ways, but I did not know/think that chariots were that fundamentally broken in AOS.

I have always thought that Iron-Jawz needed a warmachine option or at least a chariot, as I believe even rudimentary technology would help give them a distinctive identity from bonesplitterz. The chariot option would be especially nice if you could put a hero on it.

@Koradrel of Chrace I suppose that superiority is something that I shouldn't be discussing as I just started collecting the ill formed abandoned sea dwellers. I have to say Aelven lore in AOS is so fascinating and the best carry over from the old world in my opinion. Returning to the function of the thread, I am really excited to see what the future holds for Seraphon lore and I really hope that Oxyotl will return in some fashion. But I do not think Chameleon Skinks made it into Warcry which makes me a little worried that they will not return at all.

That is until Malerion shows you what true superiority looks like...

I have yet to pick it up from my cousin, but it is a head swap and greenstuff on the chest plate. Depending on how the greenstuff works out I will see if I shall keep it or remove it, as the head swap is plenty in my opinion in conveying the appearance.

Hey Folks, I just got my hands on the Idoneth battleforce and I am very excited to be playing one of the most interesting and unique factions in the game. However, I am feeling a touch overwhelmed in terms of moving forward with the faction. I will probably get the start collecting set and my cousin has recently gifted me with a neat custom Akhelian Queen. I think that my army will not end up being very competitive, mixing infantry and cavalry, but I think that will be a more interesting force to collect and paint. I suppose I will very gradually move towards a more eel focused list. I look forward to learning the faction's play style and coming up with an interesting theme for my army.

I think Beasts of Chaos fit your needs but as @Myrdin suggests they are not in a great competitive space right now. I also think Flesh Eater Courts is a fantastic choice as their start collecting set is pretty much exactly what you have outlined.

The (current and ever evolving) lore for my Slaves to Darkness force is that they are the Cardinals of Chaos. They were devoted followers of Sigmar who went on a crusade to the Eightpoints to reclaim artefacts, lost to the forces of Chaos, and then they disappeared. Their families remembered them as heroes and then after a generation the soldiers reappeared with the greatest gift of all... the word of their dark lords. They are now on a new crusade to bring their faith to the mortal realms and to bring more under the banner of Archaon. The marauders and warcry units will be the initial converts to the Cardinals while the heavily armoured Knights, Warriors and generals will be the crusaders themselves. I am also inventing a background for the characters based loosely on the Borgia family. I just started an Idoneth army as of yesterday. I am still looking through their lore trying to pin down an exact theme for my own army's lore but I do know that I want them to be made from the souls of my old Warhammer Fantasy Dark Elf army. I would love some help on expanding their lore.

@Baron Klatz I was able to find some free time and swing by the hobby-shop and got my hands on the battleforce. Thanks for the encouragement, and I am excited to get to work on my sea elves. Although, I promised my partner I would finish my painting my Chaos first.