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Injury table is disappointing. Where's my multi-page list of horrible maimings? And improving your warband members seems quite limited. Everything else looks cool.

So Warband boxes are going to be around $60-65? Woof. Think they missed the mark there. I was excited to buy multiple as soon as they release, but now I'm likely going to put off buying them for awhile. $40 would have been the sweet spot, especially since we're only getting 8-9 models in each box. This pricing is even more premium than Witch Elves, which basically cost as much as gold.

It's worth looking closely at the warband group shots at the bottom of the page. Some of them show off alternate builds or weapons we haven't seen in the main reveals, such as a staff-like weapon for Corvus and what looks to be a banner/icon for the Iron Golems.

I think for a Slave to Darkness book to be successful it needs to avoid the trap the BoC book fell into: Unmarked/Undivided armies shouldn't be patently worse than Marked armies.

A Beasts of Chaos warband would be cool. Have 3-4 Gor models with a champion joined by a special Spawn of Chaos.

There's no simpler army than Gutbusters. Don't even have an allegiance you have to remember. No special command abilities. No shenanigans. No synergy. Blunt as a butcher's cleaver. Run forward and die---that's our mantra.

I'm confused on how the woods work now with these keywords. An Awakened Wildwood is 3-6 Citadel Woods (does that include the old Citadel Woods?), but they also say the Old Citadel Woods count as 1 Awakened Wildwood terrain feature. So...are you setting up 3-6 Old Citadel Woods, or 1 Old Citadel Woods? And if you're only setting up 1 Old Citadel Woods, wouldn't that be a big disadvantage since you could set up 6 New Citadel Woods over a larger area?

So I'm a bit confused on this. Does this now mean if you take an artifact or trait that lets a priest know an additional prayer, that they basically get an additional "cast" per turn?

Our battalions still need to come down by a decent amount. Other than that, I'm quite pleased.

You guys think the Black Oak might be a new model? We also have whatever was released from Lake Lethis roaming around. I'm wondering if there'll be a second wave of Forbidden Power releases centering around powerful, faction-specific vault characters.

Hooray for Troggoth point reductions! Dankholds and the Gitz battalions are still too expensive, but I'll take what I can get!

On a completely unrelated note, Creature Caster makes some good stuff. 😗

Maybe someday in the far flung future we'll find out how the dang thing plays.

Agreed. It's always important to remember that big companies are not our friends, even if the age of social media and constant customer interaction would have them convince us otherwise. GW is a business that has the singular goal of making money for itself and its shareholders, and these company men will never be content with booming profits. Nothing short of owning ALL of the money in a giant Scrooge McDuck bank vault will make them happy. Arguments like "inflation" and "well it's just an expensive hobby" have never held water and are sycophantic diversions---don't get drawn into them. These are simply excuses most companies will cower behind to justify their bulging pockets. This is not a specific rant at GW. We have far worse companies out there doing far shadier things; and the world of hobbying isn't going to end because they upped the prices on some models yet again. But just remember, GW isn't a small band of friendly, cool dudes like Duncan, Peachy, or Ben Johnson. Those folks are the artists, the ones who develop or tout the products we love because they love the artistry. The real power and intent always lies behind a board room of faceless business men and shareholders always looking to pluck another penny from our coin purses. Never forget this fact and protect yourself from questionable business tactics and the illusions of consumer loyalty (whether to a single company or an entire market).

Do we know what the contrast paints look like over a base that isn't white or grey? Does it simply not show up at all? Does it tint the base color?

I'd prefer if Gutbusters remained their own thing, if I wanted to play Beastclaw, I'd play Beastclaw (kind of the same attitude most have about allies); however, I wouldn't be affronted if they blended them together. I'd just like regular Ogors to get a proper book with cool new AoS lore, an actual allegiance ability, and all the rest of the standard stuff. If we get new models, dope, I think new Ogor sculpts could look incredible...but if we don't, it's fine---as long as all the models that do exist become viable (looking at you scraplauncher, ironblaster, and leadbelcher). And GW designers, if you HAVE to make our abilities and spells "lolrandom" because we're Destruction, at least make the effects worth being random. Our current Butcher has like a 33% chance to do something useful, or just stand around like an idiot. It is called the CANNON OF THE SKY TITANS. This thing should be a menacing beast. I swear, if they just keep it as yet another single shot, 4+ to hit with D6 damage...

The fact we didn't get anything in the GHB makes me think a book is imminent. Either that or GW hates us and has no plans to support Gutbusters outside of models.

I've heard a rumor that people will be upset about point changes no matter what they are.

Was kind of hoping the Shrine and Avatar would come down a bit. Stalkers are still worthless. Could have been worse, could have been better.

Blood Stalkers is a unit that mathematically does 1-2 wounds per shooting phase. I might take them at 100. It stinks, I was really hoping for an excuse to buy them.

All they have to do is get rid of that dumb "falling over/failed charge" rule for Gargants and people would start using them. That's all they have to do!

So you pay $57 instead of $61...but doesn't reach the free shipping threshold, so unless you're buying something else direct order, means you're actually paying more for these paints than you would at the store. Why does GW do this? Every other storefront in the world offers sales and discounts, you know, to encourage customers to shop with them. I was so ready to buy into this deal if it was something like $50 for the bundle. Man I'm disappointed. Guess I'll just pick up one or two contrast paints when they show up at the local shops.

Usually around half of them are painted or are in stages of being painted. Painting isn't my biggest lean into the hobby, so I usually get a burst of enthusiasm for it when a new army or book that I like comes out, then burn out on painting so many guys in such a short time. But it means I can go back and work on different stuff from time to time. I've never had a problem with people running entirely unpainted armies. Everyone should enjoy the hobby how they want, and many simply don't enjoy the painting aspect.

Viable, yes. I still think it overcosts a unit that on average will do 1-3 wounds in the shooting phase.

My ultimate vain hope is they somehow make Blood Stalkers good, because unless they drop to around 100 points, they're total garbage. Even then, they'd still be a tax for Temple Nest. Another situation where I don't think a simple point change is the answer.