misthv Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just now, Malakithe said: Haha and that would probably be what would be needed to block off endless skellies, tunneling vulkites and tons of skaven hordes. And thats just blocking cuz horrors cant actually fight. Going to need supported Tzaangors to actually do dmg to hordes Yeah, but maybe its just a game of objectives, and no horde will ever be ground down. So, with enough initial speed and bodies you're winning!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I suppose that with brimstones doing the blocking ... that it will be even more applicable to shout "Feel the Burn!" As the brimstones hop around in impotent anger! Or "You have made me very very angry!" Given that they are angry bitter little Daemons ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Well I can see a fully filled out Multitudinous Host being suuuuuper annoying to fight against. With maxed out units they would be very hard to clear out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boelimaa Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Malakithe said: Haha and that would probably be what would be needed to block off endless skellies, tunneling vulkites and tons of skaven hordes. And thats just blocking cuz horrors cant actually fight. Going to need supported Tzaangors to actually do dmg to hordes Well i think of heavy summoning and all of purpose not to destroy just to delay! Those brim's gonna hold any objective for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Acolytes are down in points. Anyone looking at a list with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Maybe one unit of Acos in Fatesworn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 They have stiff completion in the form of 5 Warriors for 90 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misthv Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Nico said: Maybe one unit of Acos in Fatesworn. What's your Fatesworn set-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderingrogue Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 hours ago, misthv said: What's your Fatesworn set-up? fatesworn - 100 gaunt summ - 120 balewind - 100 Lord on manticore - 250 Lord of Chaos - 100 20 karic acolytes - 200 20 marauders - 120 30 warriors - 480 beast chariot - 100 beast chariot - 100 5 knights - 160 5 knights - 160 this is what im thinking - posted it up on the gt final whats app group and me and nico are debating the merits of the acolytes or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinTheOccult Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 My fatesworn list is something like this: Spoiler Allegiance: Tzeentch Heroes Chaos Lord On Manticore (250) - Blade & Shield Chaos Sorcerer Lord (160) - Runestaff Ogroid Thaumaturge (160) Battleline 9 x Chaos Knights (320) - Ensorcelled Weapons 18 x Chaos Warriors (360) - Hand Weapon & Shield 9 x Chaos Warriors (180) - Hand Weapon & Shield 18 x Kairic Acolytes (200) Units 1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (100) - War Flail - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch 1 x Chaos Chariots (80) - War Flail - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch 1 x Chaos Chariots (80) - War Flail - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch Battalions Fatesworn Warband (100) Total: 1990/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malin Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/16/2017 at 10:23 PM, TheOtherJosh said: I've only used the Silver Tower Tzaangor models myself.@malin So... there are 4 sprues in the box? 2 sprues for each 5 models. And 4 total savage greatblades [2 axe versions, and 2 sword versions] in the box of 10? So all the models can be made, one just can end up with the Champion carrying the other Savage Greatblade? Exactly as you said. Champion can be armed with any of the available weapons in the unit. Savage Greatblade seems to be most suitable option for a champion of unit such as Tzaangors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgrima Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, DarrinTheOccult said: My fatesworn list is something like this: Hide contents Allegiance: Tzeentch Heroes Chaos Lord On Manticore (250) - Blade & Shield Chaos Sorcerer Lord (160) - Runestaff Ogroid Thaumaturge (160) Battleline 9 x Chaos Knights (320) - Ensorcelled Weapons 18 x Chaos Warriors (360) - Hand Weapon & Shield 9 x Chaos Warriors (180) - Hand Weapon & Shield 18 x Kairic Acolytes (200) Units 1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (100) - War Flail - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch 1 x Chaos Chariots (80) - War Flail - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch 1 x Chaos Chariots (80) - War Flail - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch Battalions Fatesworn Warband (100) Total: 1990/2000 Hey I just want to check as I am looking at similar lists am I correct that you get the benefit of Destiny dice and the extra spells as you are a Tzeentch list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Basically Kairos, Blue Scrubs (practically mandatory for DoT), some more heroes, chaff and a big Summoning Pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vomikron Noxis Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Nico said: Basically Kairos, Blue Scrubs (practically mandatory for DoT), some more heroes, chaff and a big Summoning Pool. What's kairos like? Worth it over a standard LoC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots468 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So, we can still take Slaves to Darkness in a Tzeentch army? They only count as allies if they have a different mark / no mark? Having a max 400 pts from StD would leave Tzeentch lacking a few options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 We'll find out how good Kairos is at Blackout. As for the StoD units, yes they don't count as allies if they are marked Tzeentch. Otherwise they would do, but why would you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinTheOccult Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Fulgrima said: Hey I just want to check as I am looking at similar lists am I correct that you get the benefit of Destiny dice and the extra spells as you are a Tzeentch list? Yep, all the units have the Tzeentch keyword so they can get those abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The shrine is not considered worth it? Even with a unit of 30 warriors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonomiyakimarine Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 i see that here is a lot of discussion for competitive list and hope for some feedback for rather casual games, I guess. i am new to AoS and do not play tournaments. I try to build a fun lists with some (old) Tzeentch minis i still have and am currently looking at adding Tzaangor Skyfires to reach 1000 pts. I did not see something like this in the thread, so probably it is just a strange idea, but please let me know if and how you think this would do: Leaders: Changeling (140), Tzaangor Shaman (120), Gaunt Summoner + Familiars (Silver Tower) (120) / Units: 2x Pink Horrors (280), 2x Skyfires (320) / 980 pts total. My idea was to use familiars as buff/wounds to keep the Gaunt Summoner alive a bit and the Changeling to copy spells, Shaman with buffed Skyfires as snipers, horrors to block and do a bit of shooting. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhellion Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 22 hours ago, Vomikron Noxis said: What's kairos like? Worth it over a standard LoC? IMO, No. Kairos is good paired with a LoC but a solo bird is better to be a LoC than Kairos. I take both in my current list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomba776 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Is Tzeentch army still competitive without any horrors and burning chariots ? I like the whole Disciples of Tzeentch range except horrors and chariots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhellion Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, bomba776 said: Is Tzeentch army still competitive without any horrors and burning chariots ? I like the whole Disciples of Tzeentch range except horrors and chariots. Tzaangor lists can definitely work. 2x30 for 900 points is enticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritofHokuto Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 From the leaked tables it looks like Kairic Acolytes are now just battleline for Disciples of Tzeentch as opposed to Tzeentch Arcanites now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 They used to be and should still be inherent battleline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 [mention=3426]SpiritofHokuto[/mention] - Everything I've seen has Kairic Acolytes as Battleline, not "Battleline if" The new profiles don't have Arcanites and Daemons of Tzeentch split out from a Battleline perspective for the Diciples of Tzeentch. However, one could previously use Kairic Acolytes or Pink Horrors in a Tzeentch aligned Army as Battleline. (Or even Tzeentch aligned Marauders or Chaos Warriors.) You would just be using different Command Trait tables depending on which KEYWORDS your General had available. And you now have to have your general be an actual Hero, you can't select a non-hero model (or an entire unit) as your General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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