rfkannen Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 So I have decided to start the plunge and start my first warhammer army by getting a start collecting flesh eater courts. It was a toss between them and gloomspite, and after figuring out gloomspite would have costed like 10000 times as much it was an easy choice lol. My plan is to get a start collecting box. I know the terrorgheist is a better unit, but I think I am going to build the zombie dragon as I like the model more. Not sure how ill build the rest of the models (would love tips) Any advise? What should I get after the start collecting box? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeytango Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Well, now that the Arch-regent is available on it's own, definitely grab him and the Bone Throne. From there, you could probably buy another SC, and a 20 pack of ghouls, and call it good for a lonnnng time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Beat me to it. Flesh Eaters are fast to collect and have a massive amount of options for the models you use. Once you got the Arch-Regent as your super durable spellcasting hero and the throne then it's just a matter of choosing which Grand Court to focus your noble army on(deadlier knights? Faster troops? Zombie dragon battleline?) and begin the royal banquet in your realm. Edited February 25, 2020 by Baron Klatz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfkannen Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, whiskeytango said: Well, now that the Arch-regent is available on it's own, definitely grab him and the Bone Throne. From there, you could probably buy another SC, and a 20 pack of ghouls, and call it good for a lonnnng time. Cool! How many points is that? 13 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said: Beat me to it. Flesh Eaters are fast to collect and have a massive amount of options for the models you use. Once you got the Arch-Regent as your super durable spellcasting hero and the throne then it's just a matter of choosing which Grand Court to focus your noble army on(deadlier knights? Faster troops? Zombie dragon battleline?) and begin the royal banquet in your realm. zombie dragon battleline sounds rad! any tips for making that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeytango Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, rfkannen said: Cool! How many points is that? zombie dragon battleline sounds rad! any tips for making that work? So, its somewhere between 1500-2000pts, depending how you build it. Nothing to sneeze at. Zombie Dragons and TG's become battleline in the Gristlegore grand court. I will say be careful running that. It is far and away the most competitive FEC build, and makes you a target for "THAT guy" accusations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yeah, gotta take it easy with that to not look a try-hard but man if it isn't cool. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/12/12th-feb-a-mordant-menagerie-building-a-flesh-eater-courts-armygw-homepage-post-3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said: Yeah, gotta take it easy with that to not look a try-hard but man if it isn't cool. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/12/12th-feb-a-mordant-menagerie-building-a-flesh-eater-courts-armygw-homepage-post-3/ Yeah and Tyrants of Blood is really powerful too, but at the same time running 3 Bloodthirsters (maybe even SKARBRAND) is flipping sweet so.... Rule of cool! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeytango Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Well, i'm not saying don't do it, i'm just saying be cognizant of what you're doing when you do it. Double attacking, striking first monsters don't usually make for a super fun play experience for your opponent, so if thats a concern of yours, Gristlegore (or Reapers of Vengeance Tyrants) might not be for you, despite having battle line TG's and ZD's. Edited February 25, 2020 by whiskeytango 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfkannen Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, whiskeytango said: Well, i'm not saying don't do it, i'm just saying be cognizant of what you're doing when you do it. Double attacking, striking first monsters don't usually make for a super fun play experience for your opponent, so if thats a concern of yours, Gristlegore (or Reapers of Vengeance Tyrants) might not be for you, despite having battle line TG's and ZD's. Oh yeah I don't want to play something that would be annoying. Would the army whiskeytango be unfun to play against? I don't really understand the rules of the game (I haven't bought any of the books yet, plan to do that next month), I mostly just want some fun models to paint lol. Btw, is it a bad idea to build one of each type of thing a model can be? Like I would rather build 1 crypt horror, 1 cyrpt flayer, and 1 courtier, so I could have a variety of models. but it sounds like that isn't a good strategy and it is better to build them all as one thing? also is there lore about how to paint them? Like is it tied to the courts? If it is, what do the gristlegore look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, rfkannen said: Oh yeah I don't want to play something that would be annoying. Would the army whiskeytango be unfun to play against? I don't really understand the rules of the game (I haven't bought any of the books yet, plan to do that next month), I mostly just want some fun models to paint lol. Btw, is it a bad idea to build one of each type of thing a model can be? Like I would rather build 1 crypt horror, 1 cyrpt flayer, and 1 courtier, so I could have a variety of models. but it sounds like that isn't a good strategy and it is better to build them all as one thing? also is there lore about how to paint them? Like is it tied to the courts? If it is, what do the gristlegore look like? Usually the lore is in their battletome with lots of pictures. Some more than others. The original Ironjawz battletome went more further into depth about it than the Orruk Warclans one, but I think it's because they crammed 2 armies into 1 and had less room for the "fluff" so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer & Pretzels Gamer Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, rfkannen said: Oh yeah I don't want to play something that would be annoying. Would the army whiskeytango be unfun to play against? I don't really understand the rules of the game (I haven't bought any of the books yet, plan to do that next month), I mostly just want some fun models to paint lol. Btw, is it a bad idea to build one of each type of thing a model can be? Like I would rather build 1 crypt horror, 1 cyrpt flayer, and 1 courtier, so I could have a variety of models. but it sounds like that isn't a good strategy and it is better to build them all as one thing? also is there lore about how to paint them? Like is it tied to the courts? If it is, what do the gristlegore look like? As far as building one of each type in most cases you will need/want to have the base unit size. For both Crypt Horrors and Crypt Flayers that will be 3 models each. That said if you’re just talking about your first Start Collecting Box it may be possible to build the two Courtiers (been awhile since I built mine so can’t remember if their parts overlap, sorry, but should be evident from instructions) and that’s more fun for you go ahead and have fun. If the Courtier parts do overlap than I would recommend starting with the Crypt Infernal Courtier and two Crypt Flayers. Then look on eBay where a cheap 3rd Crypt Flayers can often be picked up to fill out the unit. In general I’ve found Flayers more useful than Horrors, though opinions may vary. That said I feel confident in saying Flayers are more fun to paint which seems to be something you’re into. And yes, the tome does give different color patterns for different Grand Courts but no need to feel beholden to them. My FEC army is themed after Robinhood so forest greens and autumnal reds dominate my color palette despite running a Gristelgore list, which the tome suggests should be a bluish-grey I just wasn’t into. Oh yeah, wholly agree that next piece after SC box is Abhorrant Archregent. Resin annoying but also think worth considering a Varghulf Courtier as they are both another fun model to paint and a good potential Courtier to summon. Finally, at least one of your Royal Zombie Dragons or Royal Terrorgheists should probably be able to have an Abhorrant Ghoul King Mounted on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer & Pretzels Gamer Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Side note. Not sure whether you love painting small details (if so feel free to ignore) but when it came to the Crypt Ghouls I found contrast paints to be a lifesaver. If you start with a lighter tone for the body a lot of the details can be easily done using a darker tone. FEC was the first Army I completely painted on my own, and I doubled down on difficulty by having a tournament deadline I had to meet. Wouldn’t have made it without that little trick as it made the first base coat so much less stressful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtmjrcain Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I did my FEC with two layers of Contrast Skeleton Horde (two layers so it was darker) then picked out the "hair" (?) with Contrast Goregrunta Brown and the rest of the details with various Base or Layer paints from the other Citadel line. Not real hard to do, especially if I could do it. lol It's a quick paint job too, but there are lots of bodies to paint for a 2k army so time can be a factor still. I have 80 ghouls overall plus heroes and terrorgheist and zombie dragon. Heavily recommend the Varghulf Courtier... he's a good fighter on his own and has got some serious regeneration properties for the rest of your army. The Archregent is also most excellent for his spell casting and summoning abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtmjrcain Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Also... you can build one of each Courtier from the Start Collecting box without worrying about overlapping parts. You'll have a spare "knight" body to make into a Flayer or Horror or you could convert it into a Varghulf Courtier with some putty, time, and imagination. Then you would have one of each of the big Courtiers for your army and be able to expand out to Horrors and/or Flayers after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 8 hours ago, rfkannen said: Btw, is it a bad idea to build one of each type of thing a model can be? Like I would rather build 1 crypt horror, 1 cyrpt flayer, and 1 courtier, so I could have a variety of models. but it sounds like that isn't a good strategy and it is better to build them all as one thing? Depends on how big collection you want, if you are one of the maniacs like me who want to build huge armies - than you will want to have at least 2 Haunter and 1 Infernal Courtiers to be able to field Cannibal Court battalion which is over 5000 points. If not - you better search for spare model on the internet or split a box with someone. But no matter what way you choose - for your first couple of units don't build courtiers - instead buy a Varghulf, this way you'll be able to rise your point count faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfkannen Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Beer & Pretzels Gamer said: Side note. Not sure whether you love painting small details (if so feel free to ignore) but when it came to the Crypt Ghouls I found contrast paints to be a lifesaver. If you start with a lighter tone for the body a lot of the details can be easily done using a darker tone. FEC was the first Army I completely painted on my own, and I doubled down on difficulty by having a tournament deadline I had to meet. Wouldn’t have made it without that little trick as it made the first base coat so much less stressful. Ill try those out! I have one contrast so far, Guillman flesh, and it has been a lifesaver, ill try out another one! 3 hours ago, Sgtmjrcain said: I did my FEC with two layers of Contrast Skeleton Horde (two layers so it was darker) then picked out the "hair" (?) with Contrast Goregrunta Brown and the rest of the details with various Base or Layer paints from the other Citadel line. Not real hard to do, especially if I could do it. lol It's a quick paint job too, but there are lots of bodies to paint for a 2k army so time can be a factor still. I have 80 ghouls overall plus heroes and terrorgheist and zombie dragon. Heavily recommend the Varghulf Courtier... he's a good fighter on his own and has got some serious regeneration properties for the rest of your army. The Archregent is also most excellent for his spell casting and summoning abilities. Ill give that a try! I want to do something where I divide my whole army into squads and paint them diffrent (not sure what the divisions will be yet) but Ill try that for one! oh that sounds cool, giant bad monster is laso rad! 49 minutes ago, XReN said: Depends on how big collection you want, if you are one of the maniacs like me who want to build huge armies - than you will want to have at least 2 Haunter and 1 Infernal Courtiers to be able to field Cannibal Court battalion which is over 5000 points. If not - you better search for spare model on the internet or split a box with someone. But no matter what way you choose - for your first couple of units don't build courtiers - instead buy a Varghulf, this way you'll be able to rise your point count faster. Ah yeah I was mostly aiming for 1000 points first, stay there for a bit, and then build up to 2k, so I should probbably wait on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfkannen Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 If gristlegore is a bit much, any tips on a buying order for a diffrent 1k flesh-eater army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer49 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Watch AOS coach on youtube who just did a show on FEC which might be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 15 hours ago, rfkannen said: Any advise? Be careful with the wing from the gheist / dragon, I nearly poked my eye out with that thing 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer & Pretzels Gamer Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, rfkannen said: If gristlegore is a bit much, any tips on a buying order for a diffrent 1k flesh-eater army? Blisterkin probably your next best bet, and particularly good if you’re focusing on 1K initially. Makes Flayers battleline so you’ll want to focus there fir initial build out post SC box. Abhorrant Archregent and Varghulf Courtier just as appealing in Blisterkin as Gristelgore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbanks Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Alternative to buying an Arch-Regent: If you build two Courtiers from the Horror kit, use the bits and third to build your own the Courtier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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