SchleuderMann2 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 What dies Skyborne Slayers exactly do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombyeyeah Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-skyborneslayers-en.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 If I run a Grand Alliance Order army I can use the Skyborne Slayers battalion, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 9:43 AM, Hannibal said: If I run a Grand Alliance Order army I can use the Skyborne Slayers battalion, right? Yes. That's the beauty of it. You don't have access to SCE rules and artifacts though. It's been nerfed a bit since you can't take Malign Sorceries anymore and because most order miniatures are now COS, which limits synergies. What list do you want to do ? If you go ORder that's because you have something specific in mind, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Hammers of SigmarLeadersVandus Hammerhand (260)- Mount Trait: Drake-kinKnight-Vexillor (110)- Pennant of the Stormbringer- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone StandardKnight-Azyros (100)- General- Command Trait: We Cannot Fail- Artefact: God-forged BladeBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Shockbolt Bows10 x Judicators (280)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Shockbolt BowsUnits10 x Decimators (340)10 x Protectors (340)- 2x Starsoul MacesBattalionsSkyborne Slayers (180)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 127 So i come with idea. 3 drops. Battalion is the "their sky", Vexilor on the ground, Azyros in normal sky". Later Vexilor just teleport himself with his standard to heal everyone. Vandus give attack aura and delete stuff, Azyros give rerolls and ward 6+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Nizrah said: Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Hammers of SigmarLeadersVandus Hammerhand (260)- Mount Trait: Drake-kinKnight-Vexillor (110)- Pennant of the Stormbringer- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone StandardKnight-Azyros (100)- General- Command Trait: We Cannot Fail- Artefact: God-forged BladeBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Shockbolt Bows10 x Judicators (280)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Shockbolt BowsUnits10 x Decimators (340)10 x Protectors (340)- 2x Starsoul MacesBattalionsSkyborne Slayers (180)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 127 So i come with idea. 3 drops. Battalion is the "their sky", Vexilor on the ground, Azyros in normal sky". Later Vexilor just teleport himself with his standard to heal everyone. Vandus give attack aura and delete stuff, Azyros give rerolls and ward 6+. Seems a bit of a waste to have the vexillor teleport himself. Why not leave the azyros on the ground and the vexillor in azyr? The azyros should be quick enough to get in position, especially if you give the enemy the inistive in t1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucur Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I think skyborne slayers requires the Lord Celestant warscroll, not the keyword, thus Vandus can't satisfy the battalion's requirement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah u need the lord celestant on foot version sadly. Nice plan tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I almost do the same i use the foot celestant with 3 commandpoints and vindicator stormhost. It gives both paladin units plus 1 attack and plus 1 to hit rerolling 1 on the charge. It does decent damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Sadly yes, ******. Thats a bummer. But i can just take LC for one of the 5 Judi. And its still should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) On 8/2/2020 at 1:09 AM, Nizrah said: Sadly yes, ******. Thats a bummer. But i can just take LC for one of the 5 Judi. And its still should work. How about that list (2 drops) and you've got 100 points left : Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Hammers of SigmarLeadersKnight-Vexillor (110)- Pennant of the Stormbringer- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone StandardKnight-Azyros (100)- General- Command Trait: We Cannot Fail Lord-Celestant on Dracoth (200)- Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield- Artefact: God-forged Blade - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Thunderbolt CrossbowsUnits10 x Protectors (340)- 4x Starsoul Maces10 x Decimators (340)- 4x Starsoul Maces3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge TridentsBattalionsWarrior Brotherhood (170)Total: 1900 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 133 Edited August 3, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 @Maturin where can i find warrior brotherhood battalion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nizrah said: @Maturin where can i find warrior brotherhood battalion? Grand Alliance: Order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Maturin said: How about that list (2 drops) and you've got 100 points left : Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Hammers of SigmarLeadersKnight-Vexillor (110)- Pennant of the Stormbringer- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone StandardKnight-Azyros (100)- General- Command Trait: We Cannot Fail Lord-Celestant on Dracoth (200)- Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield- Artefact: God-forged Blade - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Thunderbolt CrossbowsUnits10 x Protectors (340)- 4x Starsoul Maces10 x Decimators (340)- 4x Starsoul Maces3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge TridentsBattalionsWarrior Brotherhood (170)Total: 1900 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 133 Im not sure that without Vandus extra attack this will have enough killing power Vandus x3 on 10 protectors is amazing, its 60 attacks. Also warrior brotherhood start 9 from enemy and skyborne slayers 5. Edited August 3, 2020 by Nizrah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Nizrah said: Im not sure that without Vandus extra attack this will have enough killing power Vandus x3 on 10 protectors is amazing, its 60 attacks. Also warrior brotherhood start 9 from enemy and skyborne slayers 5. mm that means no starsoul maces and then its a lot of attacks hitting on 3+ wounding on 3+ doing -1 for 1 damage. thats a lot of investment with vandus and very weak to screening. Cause to pull this off you cant put your skyborne slayers on the flank cause vandus has to be in range of them. And all that trust in a 8 wound hero..Im not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 10:47 AM, Maturin said: What list do you want to do ? If you go ORder that's because you have something specific in mind, right ? Well, there are some beautiful models in Grand Alliance Order that do not only look amazing, but also allow for a whole "deepstrike" force. Skyborne Slayers would compliment such a collection. That's it. It's all about the option to deploy nothing at the start of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hannibal said: Well, there are some beautiful models in Grand Alliance Order that do not only look amazing, but also allow for a whole "deepstrike" force. Skyborne Slayers would compliment such a collection. That's it. It's all about the option to deploy nothing at the start of the game. Which one are you thinking about ? Khinerais? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, Maturin said: Which one are you thinking about ? Khinerais? Namarti Thralls led by the priest who allows for deepstrike Hearthguard Berzerkers led by a rune smiter (also deepstrike) Khinerais I'm still thinking to start a 1000 point project. Just like the models and the theme. a min battalion of skyborne slayers comes to nearly 1000 points and would allow for a 2000k all deepstrike list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primes Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 With our new points I am thinking of the following 4-Drop List (no sense in competing with KO, Tzeentch for 1 Drop, everything else seems to be at least 5 Drop?). Skyborne Slayers is a big distraction, stalls the enemy and scores Objevtives while Prime and Evos act as precision strikes. Combo of Prime, Lord Celestands Hammer Cloak and Heraldor with Judies allows for rather realiable Hero Sniping. Thoughts?LeadersLord-Celestant (100)Knight-Heraldor (100)Celestant-Prime (300)Battleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & ShieldUnits5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows5 x Protectors (170)- 4x Starsoul Maces5 x Decimators (170)- 2x Starsoul Maces6 x Evocators on Dracolines (520)- 4x GrandstavesBattalionsSkyborne Slayers (180)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Primes said: With our new points I am thinking of the following 4-Drop List (no sense in competing with KO, Tzeentch for 1 Drop, everything else seems to be at least 5 Drop?). Skyborne Slayers is a big distraction, stalls the enemy and scores Objevtives while Prime and Evos act as precision strikes. Combo of Prime, Lord Celestands Hammer Cloak and Heraldor with Judies allows for rather realiable Hero Sniping. Thoughts?LeadersLord-Celestant (100)Knight-Heraldor (100)Celestant-Prime (300)Battleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & ShieldUnits5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows5 x Judicators (140)- Skybolt Bows5 x Protectors (170)- 4x Starsoul Maces5 x Decimators (170)- 2x Starsoul Maces6 x Evocators on Dracolines (520)- 4x GrandstavesBattalionsSkyborne Slayers (180)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 118 From my experience. Small units of paladins dont do anything usefull. Ive seen a 5 men squad of decimators with this battalion get some work against hordes if you activate them first but after that 2x5 is super small to get anything done. Even dropping them at 5 inch and putting 2 maces in isnt enough most of the time. When i look at the newer meta lists i think you need atleast 2 hammer units and then a turn 3 prime for the second hammer. A turn 3 prime does around 15 damage. Its enough to kill weakened dudes but not strong enough to headbut into a big unit. Your evocators are right now your damage dealers they would love a lord arcanum on dracoline with them to put them to there best effect. If you remove the prime and put more points into the damage of the evocators it could be enough. My best games are with atleast 1x10 protectors but never 2x5 paladins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Primes said: With our new points I am thinking of the following 4-Drop List (no sense in competing with KO, Tzeentch for 1 Drop, everything else seems to be at least 5 Drop?). Or you can do a total opposite and focus on shooting : https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/26289-maturins-emporium-of-wonky-lists/?do=findComment&comment=444335 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evantas Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) On 8/7/2020 at 7:26 PM, Juicy said: From my experience. Small units of paladins dont do anything usefull. Ive seen a 5 men squad of decimators with this battalion get some work against hordes if you activate them first but after that 2x5 is super small to get anything done. Even dropping them at 5 inch and putting 2 maces in isnt enough most of the time. When i look at the newer meta lists i think you need atleast 2 hammer units and then a turn 3 prime for the second hammer. A turn 3 prime does around 15 damage. Its enough to kill weakened dudes but not strong enough to headbut into a big unit. Your evocators are right now your damage dealers they would love a lord arcanum on dracoline with them to put them to there best effect. If you remove the prime and put more points into the damage of the evocators it could be enough. My best games are with atleast 1x10 protectors but never 2x5 paladins. Will be trying out the Skyborne Slayers soon, with Evocators on Dracolines to mitigate the general immobility. Enough points to bump one of the paladins up to a unit of 10. My question though: are decimators or protectors better for a unit of 10? Edited August 18, 2020 by Evantas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, Evantas said: Will be trying out the Skyborne Slayers soon, with Evocators on Dracolines to mitigate the general immobility. Enough points to bump one of the paladins up to a unit of 10. My question though: are decimators or protectors better for a unit of 10? 100% protectors. Reason is the 3 inch reach. It means with 4 starsoul maces u can get some more attacks in. My 10 protectors do an average of 12-14 damage total to a unit with an 4+ armour save in my games. Where my decimators hardly find any hordes to fight and then only do damage with the starsoul maces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Played a 24 player 1 day tournament with skyborne slayers. Took second place. I failed to complete 1 auxiliary objective sadly. I played against khorne, lumineth and k- overlords. I felt even with outdated low damage warscrolls the deepstrike ability still has a place if you know what you are doing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evantas Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Juicy said: Played a 24 player 1 day tournament with skyborne slayers. Took second place. I failed to complete 1 auxiliary objective sadly. I played against khorne, lumineth and k- overlords. I felt even with outdated low damage warscrolls the deepstrike ability still has a place if you know what you are doing. Briefly, what scenarios, army compositions and what Aux Objectives did you pick? Edited August 31, 2020 by Evantas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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