Any tips on dealing with Orruk Brutes?

[TheAntsAreBack]

Hi, as the title says, I'm looking at how best to deal with Brutes with my LoN army. I'm wondering if my best bet is swarming them with skeletons in order to bog them down for as long as possible or whether I'd just go down faster like that?

My list is roughly:

• Prince Vhordrai,
• 2 Necromancers
• Mortis Engine
• 30 skeletons
• 20 skeletons
• 5 Dogs
• 12 Spirit Hosts
• 5 Hexwraiths

Edited February 17, 2019 by TheAntsAreBack

[Gdead909]

Use the spirit hosts. Brutes have rend and are the IJs big minster killers. Spirit hosts dont care about the rend and can just fish for 6s and wipe them out

[Mutter]

Last game I just send my VLoZD (LoB) into ten of them, accompanied by some Blood Knights. The VL took names and kicked some orruk-butt. My Ironjawz opponent wasn't impressed ...

[Evil Bob]

2 hours ago, TheAntsAreBack said:

I'm wondering if my best bet is swarming them with skeletons in order to bog them down

That’s pretty much Deathrattle 101.  Take the hit, then hit back.  Some people midigate it with Cogs or command/battalion rules that give a little extra movement.  That stuff can get tricky, tactically speaking.  Don’t hesitate going with a full 40 skeleton unit, one VDM and survivors will hit back.

If Brutes are causing a problem I think it has to do with few “hammer” options.  Your guy mounted on the zombie dragon is it.  You need either Morghasts or Grimghast Reapers for a good counter punch.  That or at the very least more skeletons since your numbers are awkward since unit sizes need to scale with the point value of the match.

Edited February 17, 2019 by Evil Bob
Tuning

[S133arcanite]

@TheAntsAreBack  Just use Vhordrai as a VLoZD, give him the ethereal amulet and send him into the brutes. Also, play LoB

[Honk]

Brutes are ugly and can hurt, especially our elite units. If you’re able, you can bog them down in skellis, a nice overwhelming dread or fading vigor... voila, au revoir

10 wolves with a corpse cart also tell them to get lost

[themortalgod]

Brutes have horrible bravery, get a banner near them and overwhelming dread. Then just cause a couple casualties and watch as the unit begins to melt. For this reason mortis engine can also do a fair bit to them. A banshee scream can also do work.

Edited February 18, 2019 by themortalgod

[soots]

Neferatta stackable -1 to hit

Overwhelming dread -1 to hit

Geminids -1 to hit/1- a

Azyrbane banner -1 to wound

Balefire Lantern -1 to wound

One or two of the above and any combat suddenly becomes in your favour

 

[Mutter]

15 hours ago, themortalgod said:

Then just cause a couple casualties and watch as the unit begins to melt.

Well, it's kinda hard to bank on this, 'cause if there's an opposing character about, that mightn't work so well.

[themortalgod]

6 hours ago, Mutter said:

Well, it's kinda hard to bank on this, 'cause if there's an opposing character about, that mightn't work so well.

Yes, but that, in itself, has benefits too. Ironjawz are generally speaking very weak relative to their pts cost. One of their few saving graces is the ability to stack powerful command abilities. If your opponent is saving/wasting CP in Inspiring Presence then they are not spending CP on actually making their units hit hard so it is win/win for you.