Summoning Dryads with Branchwraith in matched play

[Zen]

So, in the new Sylvaneth tome the Branchwraith still summons "only" 2d6 dryads.

At first I thought that these were "free" summons, i.e. You don't need to pay points for them re: summoning rules. This made sense in my head as summoning 2d6 dryads isn't overly strong, and other armies (flesheaters) don't pay points when they re-summon into dead units (which is where the distinction lies)

So the question is: do you pay the whole points cost for the unit of dryads, even if you're summoning, for instance, only 2? 

They're usually 120 pts for 10, so the possibility of having to pay 120 for 2 does not really outweigh the advantage of paying 120 for 12?

 

[BaldoBeardo]

Consensus at the moment appears to be you pay the cost for however many minimum choices it would take to get that unit on the board.

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[bottle]

Page 108 seems pretty clear to me. If you summon 2-10 you would need 120 points remaining in your reinforcement pool. If you summon 11 or 12 you would need 240 points. You could choose to reduce that 11-12 down to 10 if you don't have 240 points remaining.

[DamonRafael]

I guess you can also decide not to complete the summon, if you only summon 2.. saving points even if loosing the spell for that turn

[DeCaramas]

I have been wondering this as well. Cant see her getting table time in matched play. Also isnt there a minimum unit size? So she will break this as she is most often going to summon below this

[DamonRafael]

That's not the only case however. Can't remember who but I've seen something similar already

[DeCaramas]

Go a reply from GW seems she is not worth it. Also she cant summon above 10 models

 

[WoollyMammoth]

You can pay 240 for 20 dryads on the side. If you roll a 12 you can take those and put them on the board, then you still have 8 left to summon. If you roll 10 the next time, then you only have 8 to deploy. 

If the rules seriously expect you to pay 360 points for 20 dryads because their rule was written poorly - well pretty much everyone is going to be willing to ignore this nonsense and just let you have them for 240.

The new summoning rules have the key limitations but lack clarity and are left wide open for loopholes and problems. I'm hoping the FAQ that comes out with the handbook fixes this.  

[daedalus81]

Well this one is an odd duckling, because most summoning just says drop a whole minimum sized unit on the table.  I'm not sure what they were trying to achieve with her, but they should probably let he add to a unit or increase it to 3D6.

[DeCaramas]

@WoollyMammoth i agree thats how its should work and will play it that way. But my answer came straight from the AoS FB page. Hopefully they will fix it

[WoollyMammoth]

AoS Facebook's reply is not completely clear, they simply say you have to pay 240 for 12, which makes sense. It does not say whether you would have to pay another 120 to place another 8 (maybe its best to not ask). 

[DeCaramas]

In the response to me they say she cant go over 10 models, which would make her even worse as a 10, 11,12 nets you 10 models. They dont say you can over spend as you do when building the army. It is wierd as, as mentioned most abilities place a unit ( minimum size).  This ability allows you to place a unit below minimum size at full cost.