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mm whoever just added stuff to the stormcast 4chan thought skyborneslayers with 15 paladins is a real thing. Made me laugh a bit.

im glad to read that liberators are going down but i really hope atleast 10 points but 20 point drop would be very very nice.. Till we get a new book atleast and we can bump them back to 100 with some proper rules like the demi gods these stormbois should be

If the sword of judgement is gone with ghb2020 do we feel its still worth to run this battalion? I did play this battalion for 1 year super intensive against every list i could. But the lord celestant on foot with maxed out commandpoints was my to go hero killer. Used him against katakros, stardrakes and mawcrushas. And then the rest of the pretty average warrscrollls of the battalion trying to deal with the rest. Im not sure i can keep running this without the hero/monsterkiller. What are we hoping for the slayers in ghb2020? i expected judicators to finely drop in points but not sure about other stuff right now.

while the gav bomb is nice its not top tier anylonger. But in non competative envirement is should be good

Aah that would be nice, cause i like the narrative about it. And it could take away some power combo's where people combine realm artifacts with there own.

is this not already the case. For example my stormcast are from the realm of Ulgu. With my lord celestant going for some judgement bombs. Love it;) My other artifacts are also from that realm. But i can imagine that i cant do Ulgu artifacts with my own stormcast artifacts in the new rules.

Im not ready to let my sword of judgement go just yet!!

Cant wait for leaks

i like the skyborne slayers but thinking decimators will kill 30 wardens aint going to hapen very easy. since Teclis going to buff them to a good save and our -1 rend probly going to do nothing. With our big bases we getting 5/6 decimators in but we just doing 3/3/-/1 damage attacks then. Thast not going to kill a lot. On paper our horde killers are doing better then on the field.

Was thinking about the strength of Decimators into the new lumineth aswel, the bravery debuff could be good aswel. Or not as its rumourd that the new lumineth can switch bravery and do damage with it.

awsome !

With the new ghb what point changes would you like to see? im hoping for point drops on judicators mostly since they feel like costing way to much. Rest of our roster im not sure point drops would help a lot but what do you guys think?

Yeah it was me playing this list. Played the first game against a really strong opponent with a top tier fyreslayer list. Lost hard but learned a lot. Next game i was up against a full gunline city's army, I did beat him by making full advantage of the skyborne slayers ability. Next game was against a hard Daughters of Khaine list with morathi. Lost in turn 5 al of the fail of 1 dice roll to make a charge onto the objective so was pretty close. Next game vs another strong heartguard massed fyreslayer list. Won that 1. Then i won vs a Nurgle list but felt like that was the first match i went into without feeling very very underpowerd. I still play this list and changes some things but keeping the core with the skyborne slayer intact. Playing it almost every week against a lot of differant lists and tiers. Its hard to play the same guy twice with it cause he know whats coming. So i tent to win first then lose the second match most of the time cause people screen a lot. Still having fun and the skyborne slayers do take people by surpise. But its no where near good enough to do damage. So i play avoid fights and hug on objectives most of the time and thats not the intention of GW his skyborne slayers;)

Im not sure, 140 points for judicators could see them being played more and wouldnt be to OP to field as allies. I would love it to be even lower points at some where around 120 but i cant see that hapening. I couldnt believe my eyes when after 2 point adjustments these judicators are still 160 points for this insanely low damage output they have. for Liberators i think they should be a defensive unit that can sit like a roadblock. Think we need a new book for that. And so many people have liberators in there shelves that i dont think they get a huge buff. GW needs to make money from units we hardly play. Incoming prosecutors being battleline and doing everything

Really hope that our liberators getting some kind of defensive buf and our judicators drop 20 points.

Reading al this above but the only thing im thinking about it how Eltharion the ex blind can be 220 points with those rules. Like... i dont know any 220 point character with that potential. Cant name a 300 point character with this potential and my celestant prime is just smiling at this moment. Im not sure what to think about it. Same goes for these really good saves on these elite guys. Are aelves the new lore tanks now? kind of hoped a more glasscanon vibe.

mm for the looks of it with 220 points eltharion, Hes to good not to take. Gues he's going to visit the mortal realms 9/10 times;)

Hoping new stormcast boek with some other stormhost characters. No new chamber please just update the existing one. Make libs better and paladins. And focus on ethernal balance. And for the sake of sigmar dont make 40mm base models this weak again

Hi, You sound like your playing SCE like me;). Love the fluff and backstory but every fluffy list around the warrior chamber that feels like im playing an actuel army just gets stomped cause it does nothing on the table. I kind of made my piece with it and did take it to a tournament with 100 players and went 32. 3-2. Sometimes i make a more competive aprouch but within the limit of the theme i have in mind. For example the warrior chamber and not going evocators even tho the evocators clearly outmatch every form of paladin atm. At home i face all kind of lists from more competive to fluff but never as fluffy as i make them. For me the battle always starts uphill and im oke with that. It makes me better as a general. To learn and play with the weaker units. I dont expect to win and i dont care a lot about winning but i do care about having a chance and thats where the dilemma comes in.. I build 2 lists from the same format of units. Within the format i go as competive as i can and i go they way i like a list on the table. Keeping the expertations low and dont spend to much money on buying powerfull stuff i never going to field. Not sure ill be helpfull but just wanted to put this here;)

Screamers as freaking awsome. Fast moving cheap ****** who grab objectives and fly over stuf to deal mortal wounds. Killing 5 wound wizards and have a very small base size. Playing against them a lot and they alway preform pretty well for those points. Sweet love for the space shark

yeah but the cover is only good with heroes with them atm. And the extra damage vs monsters is worse then the amount of damage a retributor does. Cause d6 damage on a 6 with rend -1 does nothing with the monsters we facing these days. As for decimaters they play decent but still have a low damage output again vs most units retributors doing more damage. I play all 3 a lot and its just what it is.

Loving this project but i think the paladins do need a bit more work. Atm retributers are better then both protectors and Decimators by a lot. Even in there role. Giving retributors -2 rend makes that gab even bigger. It would be nice to see protectors do some more damage since they should carve trough frontlines and decimators get a damage of 2 aswell. I would love a passive staunch defender on libs. Rest looks fine

I like the effort but all this crying about helmets grumpy fases and wrongness of mounten aelves is starting to get a bit funny. Reminds me of the swap fases for bonereapers topic.

Liberators as mentioned before. How can 8 foot warrios of the god king be so bad. They hit bad which i get cause they should be a defensive unit but they die to everything with a sneeze. and scrablauncher... cool model.. mayb amazing model but boi it does nothing

I still have some hopes for 2020 sce battletome. With hopes up for some warscroll improvement. Posterboyz need to be better. Since standard libs are dying in front of gw homefront with the slightest breeze