Joseph Mackay

anyone have the warscroll cards and able to send me a picture of all the tokens? need those for the tournament but you cant buy them anymore so ill have to print them off if someone can send me the image

and its sold out on the nz store too, damnit! ive at least got the squig half of one box waiting for me. but damn i wanted a second box as the discount on the squigs is good plus i wanted the sylvaneth to finally start an army of trees

as long as the rules have completely changed and the wyldwoods no longer block line of sight like normal trees do (assuming you can still summon them) then im ok with people using the old ones (within reason), but if they still get the rules for normal trees plus whatever extra then no i probably wont allow the old ones as they appear to have a larger footprint than the new ones (and certain people within the community will try to game the system of '1-3 wyldwoods' as clearly the new trees represent a single tree as each 'wyldwood' rather than the current base with 3 trees as a 'wyldwood' some people will try to play it the old way and i cant be bothered dealing with that sort of cheating) this is all speculation of course as we dont know how the new ones will function

Ghoul Patrol to me is exspensive because they kept it at the same points but took away its other rule (which was the only reason i used to run it pre 2.0 battletome). the extra artefact etc was still a factor back then as the points were determined in ghb18 with 2.0s release. additionally, i dont really think board edge 'deepstrike' for 3 units of ghouls, which has to be done in turn 1, is all that useful. im not saying its useless but rather its very circumstancal to want to do it, same with Death From The Skies mount trait, a Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon whos unable to cast spells when he turns up im not sure is worth doing. if you arent going first, those ghouls arent going to be very useful and are pretty much out of the game as your oppenent will block you from being able to bring them on anywhere but your own board edge so you lose a whole turn of movement vs just starting them on the board to begin with. Deadwatch is really the only battalion i see worth using for its actual rules (i dont have enough Horrors to run their battalion so probably havent looked into it properly). i miss the old Royal Family that was insanely hilarious

my local gw store only recieved 2 copies, although its still available on the nz website, im doubtful ill be able to get the 2 boxes i wanted (ive arranged to split a box with someone, so ill at least have the squigs from that) Sylvaneth is one of those armies i keep looking at but never pulled the trigger. as for Gloomspite Gitz, i already have a Spiderfang army and squigs was the next area i wanted to explore with them. this box grabbed my attention because would have been useful to both those ideas, unfortunately it also delays my plans to complete my Flesh-Eaters whic i was hoping to do before i started any other projects, and even then Fyreslayers was supposed to be next in the que

i prefer Blisterkin but i dont yet have the models to really benefit (3x3 Flayers isnt quite good enough) im limited by the models i currently have, this is for a tournament in a few weeks however lists are due in a few days and i cant guarentee id have more stuff in time. i have 1 Terrorgheight, 1 Zombie Dragon, 2 Ghoul Kings, 1 Archregent, 2 Ghast Courier, 2 Infernal Courier, 1 Haunter Courier, 50 Ghouls, 3 Horrors, 9 Flayers, Flesh-Eater Spells and Throne. i dont currently have Malign Sorcery so i cant use anything from it ghoul units are 20,20,10 as thats all i have and the Challace seems more useful if ghouls are around. im trying to keep drops low and start with a few cp i doubt ill use Death From The Skies to be honest, but i couldnt think what else to give him, Archregent has Dermal Robe as i tend to use him for summoning the endless spells so +1 is helpful Ghoul Patrol i dont like, i think its overcosted after losing its old rules but staying the same points, its only in this list as i needed a battalion to lower my drops and for cp

thoughts on this list? Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts - Grand Court: Gristlegore Mortal Realm: Shyish Leaders Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (400) - General - Trait: Savage Strike - Artefact: Ghurish Mawshard - Lore of Madness: Bonestorm - Mount Trait: Gruesome Bite Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Zombie Dragon (440) - Lore of Madness: Spectral Host - Mount Trait: Death from The Skies Abhorrant Archregent (200) - Artefact: The Dermal Robe - Lore of Madness: Blood Feast Crypt Ghast Courtier (60) Battleline 10 x Crypt Ghouls (100) 20 x Crypt Ghouls (200) 20 x Crypt Ghouls (200) Battalions Ghoul Patrol (180) Endless Spells Chalice of Ushoran (40) Corpsemare Stampede (60) Total: 1880 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 3 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 89

thoughts on this list for a tournament? Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts - Grand Court: Blisterskin Mortal Realm: Shyish Leaders Abhorrant Archregent (200) - General - Trait: Hellish Orator - Artefact: Eye of Hysh - Lore of Madness: Spectral Host Crypt Infernal Courtier (120) - Artefact: The Flayed Pennant Abhorrant Ghoul King (140) - Lore of Madness: Bonestorm Abhorrant Ghoul King (140) - Lore of Madness: Deranged Transformation Battleline 3 x Crypt Flayers (170) 3 x Crypt Flayers (170) 3 x Crypt Flayers (170) Behemoths Royal Terrorgheist (300) Royal Zombie Dragon (300) Battalions Deadwatch (110) Endless Spells Corpsemare Stampede (60) Total: 1880 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 3 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 89

how the hell do Flesh-Eater Courts have 20 Top 3 placings already?

Tomb Kings and Bretonians didnt sell well, you can blame the player base for not buying them as the main reason theyre gone. the cries for them to come back are only a very vocal minority. some might try to blame gw for not 'supporting' the armies enough, but you dont pour money, time and resourses into something that isnt selling Egyptian skeletons and King Arther era knights cannot be protected by copyright, for starters theyre too generic in visual appearance and use subjects that cant be owned by anyone. after the whole Chapter House thing a few years ago, gw has tried to do everything they can to stop people profiting off their ip and designs. ive seen people try to argue that nothing in aos is protectable as everything is 'generic' or inspired by something else, however the way the law works differs with your opinion. Ironjawz and Bonesplittaz as orcs are very unique visually for example. 'orcs' may be generic but these 2 are not Bretonians are also covered by 2 different aos factions now anyway, so they are never coming back. Flesh-Eater Courts lore heavily hints at them being Bretonians, and Stormcast Eternals basically fill the knights in shining armour role but turned up to 11 with bird creatures and reptilian cats instead of horses

yes it seems they are made in china along with the terrain

Ushoran, at least from what ive read about him, despises Nagash and wants to shut down his plans as revenge. if he comes back, he aint no ally of Nagash

endless spells/prayers are starting to rub me the wrong way. with Fyreslayers and now Sylvaneth, armies that arguebly need more units, they make these awesome monsters but then make then stupid spells instead of actual units

the differince is Witches are the basic troops of DOK whereas Hearthguard Berzerkers are a dedicated elite unit for Fyreslayers. its not a fair comparison

ah i see. ive just checked the warscrolls, interesting that the vampire Mortarchs got the Soulblight keyword whereas Arkhan didnt get Deathrattle

Deathrattle already have Arkhan, didnt he recieve that keyword in Legions of Nagash like Mannfred and Neferata gained Soulblight?

the Varanguard price is a result of early aos times when prices were quite insane (Vulkite Berzerkers, 10 for $115nz vs every other 32mm 10 model box released more recently at around $90ish nz ). unfortunately gw have a policy that they cant outright drop prices, to do so they have to rebox things or put them in bundles like Start Collecting as this creates a 'New' product with a new product code looking forward to that new Stormvault terrain, releasing just at the perfect time too, as im starting to build a massive Fortress* for my Nagash-hating Flesh-Eater Courts of Shyish (*in truth its a ruined city covered in bodies and blood) Looncurse, man i was almost tempted. i already have a Spider army and ive been looking at the Squig stuff since it came out, would be great to add to the spiders. as for Sylvaneth, ive almost started an army for them every couple of months so this would have finally got me started. however i made a decision that Flesh-Eaters are my main army and i want to finish them before i start any more projects, i dont have the space for all the random boxes i buy for projects as it is!

let me ask a very important question. aside from goblins, what other army has a 60pts hero? as far as im aware, the answer is none, and that i feel proves the Hag Queen is too cheap i also just want to say that i dont think DOK are actually op, i think its actually one of the best books theyve ever written, as to me everything is good, nothing really stands out as being bad (there are a few points costs that could go up/down however). i think DOK is the best internally balanced battletome at the moment, the problem is you cant say the same about most of the other books which gives the impression of DOK being op

i dont think Blood Stalkers are bad, i think the problem is everyone compares them to similiar units (Kurnoth Hunters, Tzaangor Skyfires) which makes them look bad. if they get a points decrease they should match Blood Sisters, not end up cheaper. the Morathi situation with making Melusai battleline, its a balance thing. i know from a background perspective it makes no sense currently, but i think its to balance Morathi a bit as unlike other named characters she doesnt have the same restrictions (having her Temple keyword locked for example). i love the Melusae units and id hate to see them nerfed in any way, but if you let Morathi unlock battleline status i bet you theyll be considered op

on the point of increasing the Hag Queen cost, she should cost less than the Slaughter Queen so i agree with the above that 90pts max, whoever said 120, thats too much Flesh-Eaters dont need as much nerfing as everyone thinks. Gristlegore with Savage Strike maybe, but dont punish the other courts for Gristlegores sins. maybe change Feeding Frenzy to allow the unit to be picked to fight again rather than immedately but that would hurt the other courts too

a few things i think -no horde discount -Hag Queen points adjusted to be on par with similar heroes -abilities changed to Wholly Within (although there is president for this to stay as Fyreslayers have a bit of both throughout their book) -witches should probably go up -Blood Stalkers battleline if Bloodwrack Medusae general some changes that i think need to happen across multiple armies -certain named characters should be keyword locked to a specific Temple/Enclave/Stormhost etc. Morathi, Volturnos are the first 2 that come to mind

Lofnir doesnt give you a 'free' magmadroth, it lets you take one more than you would normally be allowed (ie you ignore the behemoth limit)

its worth noting that (some of) Gloomspite Gitz are newer models and therefore have a different price scale to the old Sylvaneth stuff

haha yes at this stage while dipping my feet back into the army and figuring out what i want to do with them, ive been running proxies and/or borrowing my old army from the friend i gave it to

haha yes it was a hilarious list but was incredibly fun and the major victory was a welcome surprise