Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Yeah jesus; at least a Revenant with 1 extra attack or something, f*ck Wouldnt be so bad if I could use it as a KoS... but I already have 1 I dont use. Or as a LExecutioner.. but I already have 1 I dont use Edited October 19, 2018 by Neck-Romantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Neck-Romantic said: Revenant with 1 extra attack As I mentioned, I'm going to work on some home brew rules, nothing OP and stupid, but standard blade stats, 5 wounds for being a hero, a special attack with the sickle (maybe same as the torment's attack) and a single special buff rule, such as blades ignore battleshock if wholly within 9" of model, so only 1 big unit or two tiny units can ever benefit. Make it around 120pts-140pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Ehh. I dont mess with house rules much. Woulda said just an extra Revenant at same PPM with maybe 2 or 3" range with regular stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yeah, but all heroes have 4-5 wounds, so she would need to have that at least. The extra sickle weapon she has I was thinking of an 1-2 (probably just 1) attacks, 3+, 3+, -2, D3 damage, as well as the normal tomb blade attacks. The battleshock I'm thinking is too OP, but having a generic aura ability that only buffs other bladegheists for 140pts I don't think is OP at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Id be happy with just 18 points, regular stats, can be included in any size unit of blades. At least tourney legal, can be used. Otherwise its just a swap and you have one odd revanant out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 @Neck-Romantic nah with the 18pts stuff. Go big or go home with the home brew. I'm going to call her Gorkarr - Queen of the Bladegheists, a once noible warrior chief, jilted by a jealous lover, killed by poison, now in death she leads the other bladegheists with the wrath of a warrior queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Then you end up squaring off with stuff like Ton'Ka the enormous yellow remote controlled homebrew 'steamtank' with all 10's across the board : / 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 The trick to homebrew is to make them OK. It's a bit like the new briar queen from underworlds. Her AoS rules are OK, they're not great but they're not rubbish either, it's generally OK. If you stick to something like that with it's warscroll, over cost it by 20pts, then the majority of players will be happy to play out (outside of comp play obviously). Where as if you make it super OP, give it a unreasonably cheap points cost, most players will tell you where to stick your remote controlled yellow steam tank ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) No love for Ton'Ka eh? Tough crowd : P but yeah Im pretty disappointed. Like getting a $30 necron warrior... Id rather have 10 more bladesgheists than 1 alternate troop that wont fit in detachment size. already pulled strings and paid in advance for 1 though Edited October 19, 2018 by Neck-Romantic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yeah, it hurts that such a nice model has like no rules what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Was personally hoping for at least a 100 point brawler like the Cairn Wraith with a small Revenant- specific aura or baked-in ability. Perhaps able to be the leader of a Shroudguard battalion rather than established choices. Or at the very least a squad lead like the Extoller. Le sigh. Here's hoping that reliable source was wrong!! Edited October 19, 2018 by Neck-Romantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I too am wishing for this source to be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Would make an excellent Cairn wraith proxy.? It is a little odd they chose a unit that doesn't even have a leader. ? Edited October 19, 2018 by Vasshpit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Vasshpit said: a unit that doesn't even have a leader This is the one thing that is baffling my brain. The SM can be swapped out or used instead of. But the 2 weapon welding special sculpt can be used to represent a single weapon welding non character sculpt. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Right? Doesnt make sense at all. I was so excited too; building my 21-30th Revenants right now Edited October 19, 2018 by Neck-Romantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) A lot of GW decisions on Nighthaunts raise my eyebrow. Dont get me wrong, the range is one of my favs to date but it seems like they didn't have an exact plan when designing it. Examples being Dreadblades, im pretty sure these were ment as a unit and last min were decided as leaders. Chainghast, our only ranged unit, are sold with a hero that most never use more than one of. Odd. Another being the anniversary GoS. This leader is a very popular and effective unit and even multi build but they decided to release two LE... And now this choice. Still love the range and is my current project. Edited October 19, 2018 by Vasshpit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) I agree. There are some apparent last minute shuffles I suspect; with both of these LE making me think they were scrapped at the last second. DHarrows feel much more like an elite or semi elite light cavalry bodyguard for MKoS or Reikenor, taken in squads of 2 to 4 perhaps with wound re-allocation ala Nagash and the Morghasts. Chainghasts also feel so awkward, both in their warscroll and their bizarre itemization, but Harrows coming in a box of two for a hero slot with no synergy between themselves takes the cake for odd boxing. Edited October 19, 2018 by Neck-Romantic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Vasshpit said: Examples being Dreadblades, im pretty sure these were ment as a unit and last min were decided as leaders. 1000000000x yes to this. I wonder if they had to rush the ghosts due to leaks and stuff, hence 'what feels like' a rushed battletome. The book as a whole feels like it is crying out for synergies that aren't really there, and it wouldn't take much to tweak it imo to get some really decent pairings going on. I also have been trying for the life of me to figure out how to get chainghasts into a list and I'm struggling tbh, As soon as I put them in I find something better to put in their place, haha. I love the models, but I always take the torment over them everytime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Neck-Romantic said: with both of these LE Seriously, WTF!!!! (forgot to moan about them on that last post) The model everyone wants is the GoS, let's make it super hard to get, now lets make 2 LEs instead because they are going to be in hot demand, really!!! I have restrained from getting the second sculpt LE model, even though it looks awesome, because I already have 2, (like most of us who got 2 sets of ghosts from the starter set), why would anyone ever need a 3rd LE unless you are doing an apoc game, but even then. They really should have put an aura ability on the LE that buffs units, or make it so that he can actually go toe-to-toe with some of the other smaller heroes, give him a permanent damage 2 or something, because most of the time, he'll be doing 2-3 damage at best. That can't even take out a cairn wraith and they're one of the smallest wound heroes in the whole game. If the LE had a flat 3 damage instead with his attacks and was 120pts-140pts, I would take him everytime, because he can become that smaller hero assassin, instead he kind of does nothing to anyone. Sure he gives an enemy hero in 3" -1 to hit, but to make that really work, it mean having to engage the hero himself, which will result in the LE doing nothing back, while the enemy hero will more than likely swat him back to the underworlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 In Gernany the Garkorr miniature is released tomorrow. So is the info that it’s not a Hero or someone with a special ability already confirmed? My local store told me it will come with it’s own warscroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ashes said: My local store told me it will come with it’s own warscroll I have been told differently by a friend who had an opportunity to open up the box and see. I still don't believe them 100% as they might be pulling my legs, but the rest of the internet chatter is coming to the same conclusion, that both the SM and the ghost 500th store models have no rules, due to the fact that it's super limited release, and if they had special rules it would give an unfair advantage to players who could access a store on the day, compared to players who had no opportunity to get their hands on the model. I can see the logic and it makes sense but it still sucks balls if it is the case. I am still getting 3 though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Agree but didn’t GW state that even if you can’t get one in store they can order it for you at anytime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Ghost General Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I think they said that you can order more on the day, but it's a one day only model ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tropical Ghost General said: Seriously, WTF!!!! (forgot to moan about them on that last post) The model everyone wants is the GoS, let's make it super hard to get, now lets make 2 LEs instead because they are going to be in hot demand, really!!! I have restrained from getting the second sculpt LE model, even though it looks awesome, because I already have 2, (like most of us who got 2 sets of ghosts from the starter set), why would anyone ever need a 3rd LE unless you are doing an apoc game, but even then. They really should have put an aura ability on the LE that buffs units, or make it so that he can actually go toe-to-toe with some of the other smaller heroes, give him a permanent damage 2 or something, because most of the time, he'll be doing 2-3 damage at best. That can't even take out a cairn wraith and they're one of the smallest wound heroes in the whole game. If the LE had a flat 3 damage instead with his attacks and was 120pts-140pts, I would take him everytime, because he can become that smaller hero assassin, instead he kind of does nothing to anyone. Sure he gives an enemy hero in 3" -1 to hit, but to make that really work, it mean having to engage the hero himself, which will result in the LE doing nothing back, while the enemy hero will more than likely swat him back to the underworlds. Err... I meant Limited Edition, rather than Lord Executioner : P but good point! Edited October 19, 2018 by Neck-Romantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hang on, that's dodgy logic. The Guardian of Souls is a store birthday-only model, and not only does he come with two assembly options (surely it would have made more sense for that to be the one that comes in the starter box...?) but he has rules that you cannot access anywhere else! Indeed, outside of a conversion, there's no option to build a GoS with the full equipment options in the book. Surely the best thing to do would have been to make the second Executioner model the exclusive model, to make this Bladegheist an actual hero and to have her and the store birthday GoS as regularly-available blisters! What? Is that making too much sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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