Turragor Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 13 hours ago, Olincay said: I dont think i've ever heard of anyone running Tempestors or Desolators. If you are going to run only two dracothian guard, the Tempestors win out every time for me personally for the -1 to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Would temposters debuff stack with the relictors on the same unit ? I know that house rules and scgt don't allow stacking of the same ability I.e two relictors applying -1 hit on same unit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olincay Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, CountryMou3e said: Would temposters debuff stack with the relictors on the same unit ? I know that house rules and scgt don't allow stacking of the same ability I.e two relictors applying -1 hit on same unit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They all stack as they are currently written in the warscroll and GHB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 They all stack as they are currently written in the warscroll and GHB. 'Persisting effects & Spells with the same name do not stack however two different abilitiesgiving the same effect do stack.' Happy days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olincay Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, CountryMou3e said: Dirty! So double relictor can stack aswell? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yea mate, it's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, CountryMou3e said: Dirty! So double relictor can stack aswell? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Usually (not always) house ruled away at events and tourneys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Usually (not always) house ruled away at events and tourneysEdited my response to reflect scgt 2017 rules. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, CountryMou3e said: 'Persisting effects & Spells with the same name do not stack however two different abilities giving the same effect do stack.' Happy days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What's that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 What's that from? SCGT 2017 rule pack http://heelanhammer.com/SCGTdownloads/SCGT17TPv1.2.pdfSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, CountryMou3e said: SCGT 2017 rule packhttp://heelanhammer.com/SCGTdownloads/SCGT17TPv1.2.pdf Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk aka a house rule then. Ok that's good I prefer the stacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 aka a house rule then. Ok that's good I prefer the stacking.Guess it's personal preference but being new to the game I try follow the tournament rules (or house if you wish) on top of ghb as they are generally put in for good reason. I know that nothing by GW states that two relictors can stack debuff on the same unit but to me that's just a bit sweaty haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, CountryMou3e said: Guess it's personal preference but being new to the game I try follow the tournament rules (or house if you wish) on top of ghb as they are generally put in for good reason. I know that nothing by GW states that two relictors can stack debuff on the same unit but to me that's just a bit sweaty haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Personal Preference I guess as I tend to ignore all tournament rules since each tournament can have whatever rules they want. Too confusing. In the example of the relictor, it would make sense to stack, if the opposing unit has double the amount of electricity crackling around them till the next hero phase that's even more distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Personal Preference I guess as I tend to ignore all tournament rules since each tournament can have whatever rules they want. Too confusing. In the example of the relictor, it would make sense to stack, if the opposing unit has double the amount of electricity crackling around them till the next hero phase that's even more distracting.I'll have a look through other rule packs. I maybe overthinking it. But it surely will be something that will make its way into ghb 2 as scgt is a good baseline for what will happen with rules changes ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, CountryMou3e said: I'll have a look through other rule packs. I maybe overthinking it. But it surely will be something that will make its way into ghb 2 as scgt is a good baseline for what will happen with rules changes ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk oh God I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryMou3e Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 oh God I hope not. [emoji20] Saving grace at the moment is FAQ says it's legal to stack duplicate spells and abilities. Unless stated otherwise (guessing that's where house rules or wording of ability kicks in) That's rats though haha potentially -2 hit with a pretty decent chance of success. Relictor really is an unsung hero [emoji85] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, CountryMou3e said: Saving grace at the moment is FAQ says it's legal to stack duplicate spells. Unless stated otherwise (guessing that's where house rules or wording of ability kicks in) That's rats though haha potentially -2 hit with a pretty decent chance of success. Relictor really is an unsung hero Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've always felt the Relictor has been under rated, even prior to the new battletome. But with the extra prayer the model is a critical element of armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Double Relictor with double Lightning Chariot and a squad of Tempestors is a great counter to many common "Deathstar" unit lists. It's one of the secret techs I've been experimenting with to try to beat Aetherstrike lists since they are gaining in popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegfried VII Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I have used a list that was: x1 Lord Celestant on Dracoth:220pts x1 Lord Relictor: 80pts x5 Judicators: 160pts x5 Judicators: 160pts x5 Judicators: 160pts x2 Tempestors: 240pts x2 Tempestors: 240pts x2 Tempestors: 240pts x2 Tempestors: 240pts x2 Tempestors: 240pts Total Army Cost: 1980pts It was the only way of me playing with full Dracothian Guard and have a strong build. Against some armies it is unbeatable as you can literally make 2 units of the enemy army useless and while you don't pack a punch as much you can dominate other armies easily. The first weakness is if you face an msu army as the enemy will still have options for dealing with you even if you neutralize 2 or 3 of his units but a good general can work around this. The second problem (and what prevents the list from being top tier) is the fact that if you face an enemy that has a way to deal lots of mortal wounds from a distance (multiple Thundertusks, Hellcannons, Warp Lightning Cannons, Skyfires etc...) you will be at a serious disadvantage. And this is the reason I stopped fielding this list in tournaments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 hours ago, chord said: I've always felt the Relictor has been under rated, even prior to the new battletome. But with the extra prayer the model is a critical element of armies. Before the last battletome, the relictor was crippled with his movement 4 and absolutly no way to teleport him in battle. SO he ended spending 3 turn running before doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, kozokus said: Before the last battletome, the relictor was crippled with his movement 4 and absolutly no way to teleport him in battle. SO he ended spending 3 turn running before doing anything. All depends on the battleplan and strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I think Lightning Chariot is what takes the Relictor from "meh" to amazing. I wish Stormcast had some way to reroll prayers... 3+ is not reliable enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braneric Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Two questions about the Lord Celestant on foot: 1) Can he run and still use his cloak of hammers in the shooting phase? 2) Is his 9" bubble of +1 to hit an aura or a pulse (meaning if I use it then bring in some Paladins via Hammerstrike in the movement phase will they benefit if within 9")? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, PJetski said: I think Lightning Chariot is what takes the Relictor from "meh" to amazing. I wish Stormcast had some way to reroll prayers... 3+ is not reliable enough Take 2! Unless TGH2 changes things, the upside of Priests over Wizards is that there's nothing stopping you from trying it multiple times. 19 minutes ago, Braneric said: Two questions about the Lord Celestant on foot: 1) Can he run and still use his cloak of hammers in the shooting phase? 2) Is his 9" bubble of +1 to hit an aura or a pulse (meaning if I use it then bring in some Paladins via Hammerstrike in the movement phase will they benefit if within 9")? 1) Yes. It's not a missile weapon and doesn't have a profile, it's just a thing that happens. 2) Measure the distance at the time you roll the Hits. So yes, you can "turn it on" and then land in the bubble. You can't activate it and then have a unit leave and still benefit, they lose it as soon as they get further than 9" away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 14 hours ago, Requizen said: Take 2! Unless TGH2 changes things, the upside of Priests over Wizards is that there's nothing stopping you from trying it multiple times. hopefully they dont change that but i get the feeling they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 It definitely feels like the kind of thing they need to put a limit on, especially going forward as more armies will have PRIESTS in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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