Austin Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 You know what I am bummed about? The minimum points value for a Vanguard Auxiliary Chamber is 2040 points. Nooooooo! That being said, the chamber makes a decent 2500 point list in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritofHokuto Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 So taking into account all the new stuff/changes something like this seems to be pretty legit. Lord Celestant on Dracoth Lord Castellant Relictor 3x5 Liberators (Warblades & Shields) 9 Prosecutors (Celestial Hammers & Shields, Grandblade on Prime, 2x Grandaxe) 2x5 Protectors 1x10 Protectors Hammerstrike Force Celestial Vindicators Warrior Chamber Sprinkle with artefacts, prayers, Starsoul Maces and steed trait of preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'm liking the look of the Storm Heralds. Having a Stardrake appear across the board sounds nice. Or the Vanguard Justicar Conclave or Aeatherstrike Force. Question: the big battalions...they have the requirements but at the bottom it says 'any number of additional units'. Can that include units that form other battalions? Cuz the keyword is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsraiR Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 You can still field other not named battalions but they wouldn't be part of the big battalion. Only those listed would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegfried VII Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Requizen said: In the the meantime, though, we can play objective games, and Hammerstrike and Skyborne are still options for Alpha Striking things like that. In my opinion GW should clarify what happens with the Warrior Brotherhood and the Skyborne Slayers battalion warscrolls because for me it is not that clear and my gut tells me that if they were legal they would have been included in the new battletome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, AsraiR said: You can still field other not named battalions but they wouldn't be part of the big battalion. Only those listed would be So if I wanted to fit in some other small battalion into one of the storm host ones I cant do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 None of the super battalions have any of the new stuff in them and they aren't very customizable...why wouldnt GW add in any of the new stuff to the big stormhost battalions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEmrys Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 As a fairly new player still assembling my stormcasts, I like the diversity the new battletome offers. I like the combo of hammerstrike + celestial vindicators but I really hate that color scheme. For competitive play, Do you think is it a must or the 80pts can be used somewhere else with same effects? Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Hey guys quick question, to use the chamber tactics do I need to use the formations? Bought the book but still didn't had a proper look at the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Quote We're still probably fine against Mournguls. Protectors can still intercept and smash them, and Libs can slow them down. Smash is optimistic. You might grind it down after a few turns. The answer to Mournguls is almost always chaff, then pump the retreat button. Don't try to kill it unless it's actually preventing you from taking an objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olincay Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sete said: Hey guys quick question, to use the chamber tactics do I need to use the formations? Bought the book but still didn't had a proper look at the rules I think you need at least one *depending on what chamber you want* you unlock abilities and the command trait. If you fill ALL the battalions that chamber can have you unlock other abilities as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olincay Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sete said: Hey guys quick question, to use the chamber tactics do I need to use the formations? Bought the book but still didn't had a proper look at the rules Since hammerstrike seems to be the go to, I think this ones an auto include. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Quote Question: the big battalions...they have the requirements but at the bottom it says 'any number of additional units'. Can that include units that form other battalions? Cuz the keyword is still there. By convention "no". In the Sylvaneth context, it has been taken that since the Mega-Battalion lists out optional battalions that you can include (e.g. 0-3 Households (or whatever), that this list is exhaustive. So you cannot put another Gnarlroot within the first Gnarlroot. The wording about Mega-Battalions in the Battletomes may also answer this more closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'm considering taking the Drakesworn Templar within the Celestial Vindicators as it would give it a command ability of value (as opposed to not having one at all). More choppy! The LCoSD is epic (mostly that shield of joy), but very hard to fit into a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Nico said: I'm considering taking the Drakesworn Templar within the Celestial Vindicators as it would give it a command ability of value (as opposed to not having one at all). More choppy! The LCoSD is epic (mostly that shield of joy), but very hard to fit into a list. I am wracking my brains over storm heralds. 3 x liberators leaves just the 1 hero and an artefact to spare isn't efficient... But it looks like a nice list. I will maybe work with the aetherstrike one instead and build some scions-of-the-storm tough units into the list to drop in and support the shooty. Mainly thinking of purchase/painting order for next tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zitroni Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 17 hours ago, kozokus said: Did i miss something with the special banner that allow rerolls 1 on run and charge on the Vexillor that allow to reroll all charge rolls anyways? I was thinking about this too. It is a small buff. You could reroll a one when rolling a 6 and a 1 for charging or you can reroll both dice. And you can reroll your run move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Turragor said: I am wracking my brains over storm heralds. 3 x liberators leaves just the 1 hero and an artefact to spare isn't efficient... But it looks like a nice list. I will maybe work with the aetherstrike one instead and build some scions-of-the-storm tough units into the list to drop in and support the shooty. Mainly thinking of purchase/painting order for next tournament. Yeah I was looking at Storm Heralds and Aeatherstrike and Vanguard Justicar Conclave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kytlock Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 As a fairly new player still assembling my stormcasts, I like the diversity the new battletome offers. I like the combo of hammerstrike + celestial vindicators but I really hate that color scheme. For competitive play, Do you think is it a must or the 80pts can be used somewhere else with same effects? Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P mediante TapatalkCan anyone answer this? I too am curious. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Here is my first stab at a new list. I could replace the single unit of Hurricanes with another Longstrike, which is tempting bc I think they benefit much more from the added attack bonus. I do want to keep this an all-comers list though, so some sort of horde management is necessary. VanguardChamberList.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Olincay said: Since hammerstrike seems to be the go to, I think this ones an auto include. I'm a Liberator and Judicator dude. There are some that might fit my style. But shame I wanted free CT rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlDirtyCosta Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Tempest Lords are gonna be the new army to play. Im calling it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMonk Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 So the named stormhosts are all above 2500 points to max out and get the full rules - which is a really cool thing to strive for and makes mega games worth trying out beyond just cool big battles. Question I have, if not answered - the named chambers have 1 required battalion, a handful of unrequired battalions, and then 'any number of additional STORMCAST ETERNALS units' does this allow me to take the required battalion, skip the unrequired ones, and add other battalions that are not listed? Or can I only add units that don't belong to any battalions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taketheskull Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, StoneMonk said: So the named stormhosts are all above 2500 points to max out and get the full rules - which is a really cool thing to strive for and makes mega games worth trying out beyond just cool big battles. Question I have, if not answered - the named chambers have 1 required battalion, a handful of unrequired battalions, and then 'any number of additional STORMCAST ETERNALS units' does this allow me to take the required battalion, skip the unrequired ones, and add other battalions that are not listed? Or can I only add units that don't belong to any battalions? Looks like units only to me, otherwise it would say "any number of additional Stormcast Eternal battalions". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURF1 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 3 hours ago, OlDirtyCosta said: Tempest Lords are gonna be the new army to play. Im calling it now. My money's on Aetherstrike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritofHokuto Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Don't know if this has been covered before, but how does the Celestial Vindicators Warrior Chamber "Bonds of Hatred" ability work? From what I can see it essentially does nothing as the extension of the Celestial Supercharge is meaningless as you still have to drop within 6" of the Prosecutors and the buff to wound doesn't appear to be a bubble around them. Am I just reading it wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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