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44 minutes ago, xking said:
Not all Ogors are Maneaters/gutbusters. There are Ogor freeguild, but they are not destruction.
Yeah as said above the setting have room for such combinaison and its great, but in terms of rules it kinda clash with the grand alliance system (like the Archaon serving Beastclaw Raiders I mentioned).
But which book does the Freeguild Ogors come from, I don't remember ? One of those Mannfred Realmgates Wars stories ?
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10 minutes ago, Mungrun said:
Oh, sheet... That's sad. I hope GW reconsider that, Ogor Mercenaries were unique.
Even if indeed, as far as we can tell, Ogors are not in the Mercenary business any more (because Ghur-savages-Gorkamorka) at least in their majority (notably, some Beastclaw Riders worked for Archaon, but that's not reflected in the rules), AOS is wide enough a setting to still have Maneaters equivalents.
Also, in a recent (c. AOS2) short stories, there was a city with ORRUK MERCHANTS. So Maneaters are still totally possible in the lare scope of the Mortal Realms.
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2 hours ago, Emmetation said:
We'll be talking about the starter set more soon, but for now it will follow a similar line to WFRP: an adventure book, a region/city guide, premade characters, handouts etc. We're hoping to launch it very soon after the release of the corebook
Sorry, yes we'll have a nice big map of the Great Parch. The other realms will come in time
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1 hour ago, Emmetation said:I can confirm it is NOT Hammerhal
The map will be highly detailed and will allow you to zoom in to see these kinds of elements yes
... It's perfect.
I'm sorry if I sounded too negative above, I just WANT IT ALL. Don't worry, I'll wait and gladly get 8 Realms supplements, if they are as good as your WFRP 4th books (between what you showed us of your work so far, and the implications of @JReynolds, David Guymer, Clint L Werner and Johan Grenier, I'm sure it will
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1 hour ago, michu said:
I think he meant there will be no maps in the core book EXCEPT for the Great Parch.
Oh, yeah, then
I hope so !
Anyway I'm still massively hyped for this release (with the 3 GW authors mentioned in Cubicle7 article from last week being (relatively) talkative about it on social media !)
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11 minutes ago, Emmetation said:
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In the corebook, no. We want to do the maps and the realms justice, so if we were to include maps of each that would be a double page spread for each Realm. This immediately takes up 16 pages of content that could be used for further information, adventure hooks, etc. We aim to map each Realm as they become centre stage in our adventures.
@Emmetation thats a bit disappointing honestly
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So you do NOT plan to have at least some (in-universe) maps for the regions of the Great Parch you'll be exploring in details ? As apparently its "the centre stage" of the Core Book in terms of exploration...
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30 minutes ago, JReynolds said:
Funnily enough, I didn't make that up. I asked IP because anything having to do with Azyr goes through IP. So, officially, the Sigmarabulum is in space ('the Firmament'). Sigmaron is on the highest peak in Azyr, overlooking Azyrheim (on the same mountain(s) where the Pantheon gathered).
And Sigmar Lane is, of course, in North Azyrheim, west of Rodeo Drive.
Ahaha, and yeah! Well it was different in the original "core" book, as it says the Sigmarabulum spun beneath Sigmaron, which is where Sigendil shines (Sig sig sig
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Anyway the Sigmarabulum is a more important / interesting location than the palace itself I guess.
And I love the new artwork about it. I hope there will be more about it in the RPG !
Oh and please write something IRL about Sigmar Lane ❤️
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5 hours ago, Kimarous said:
I'm the opposite reaction. Aqshy AGAIN? Can't GW spend a bit of time fleshing out somewhere else for a change? Maybe a bit of Chamon? Exploring what a Ghurish village based on a giant worm's back would be like? How about the other side of Hammerhal - Ghyra - get at least a LITTLE elaboration?
Part of me understands that it's explicitly because Aqshy is the most expounded upon that makes it the ideal basis for an RPG... but regardless, it feels like anything beyond Aqshy (and to a lesser extent, Shyish) gets glossed over. Much like how all the named models are specifically from the Hammers of Sigmar stormhost instead of characterizing any of the other stormhosts...
Oh, the more is best, I agree. It's just that as AOS is a relatively young (and wide) setting, having a strong focus of a certain land, from its grains of sand to its god beasts and celestial objects, is necessary if we want to engage as DM in in-depth world building.
I hope with all my heart that different central areas of other Realms will get the Great Parch treatment later. We just need to have one location really well explored before, to show the possibilities (and by one location I mean one BIG location, knowing that Hammerhall Aqsha must be the "size of a continent" (maybe like Europe ?) and the Brimstone Peninsula must be the "size of Russia" (from a Stormcast Podcast interview...)).
And from what I understood from yesterday's news, there will also be smaller focus on typical side of life in EVERY Realms, so for Ghur I think a city on the back of a giant worm is totally feasible.
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13 minutes ago, JReynolds said:
I wrote up a big thing on Azyr, its cultures (human and otherwise) and various potential adventure hooks, so we'll see if that makes it past IP.
I hope so !!! And don't be afraid of the IP guys, I think they trust you and generally let you having a bit of creative freedom (like establishing the location of Sigmaron on Mount Celestian in your (excellent) Soul Wars , instead of "in space" as it was in AOS first ed.)
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10 minutes ago, Kronos said:
From the rpg artwork, like chaos warriors, but better, albeit one dead.
Good catch, and it fits the new-ish aesthetic of some Chaos Warriors and Darkoath barbarians featured on the Stormcast Eternals Battletome cover and the Sigmar's Host artwork (curved plates armor and more spikes) :
https://warhammerart.com/shop/age-of-sigmar/stormcast-eternals/ (down right the artwork)
https://warhammerart.com/shop/age-of-sigmar/sigmars-host/ (center and middle left)
Also the rumored Varanguard on foot from Warcry.
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Okay that art is great, love the Warhammer Quest throwback.
I love how you can play both a mighty Stormcast Heroes, a former solider of the free people AND a huge treeman.
Good news about the fluff (and the very expected Great Parch focus), but I sure darn hope we'll have ARTWORKS and MAPS of all the Realms (I fear I'm repeating myself here but... including Azyr!), and more details on the Great Parch than what we have in the Core Book as of now (which is already very good ; I just want to know more about Hammerhal Aqsha, based on the excellent WHQ Shadows Over Hammerhal "novel").
Any comments on that last part @Emmetation ?? (and thank you for the news)
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So I will repost this from the Rumor thread, courtesy of @Ben2 (to avoid any debate : he is a new user here, but a rumormonger with excellent track record on Dakkadakka).
" (...) Warcry I've known as Killteam but Aos since autumn last year, but I've not known the details regarding it as a) I'm not interested in AoS much, though 2.0 softened me a bit and I've played a bunch of Underworlds and think it's one of the best designed GW games in years and b) I was far more interested in the stuff coming out for KT and 40k. And 40k is going to hit us like a train this year.
However Darkoath (which will include the StD range) has peaked my interest, as sixpack barbarians done with modern sculpting hit's the spot for me as an old fantasy player. I will definitely be getting into AoS Killteam.
I was expecting Warcry at the back end of this year, and the LVO announcement to feature more of the Chaos stuff or maybe hints from the big 40k summer releases, but it's possible it's coming sooner.I've been told the leak seen is pretty much correct. Watching the trailer though you can pretty much educated guess half the background detail, and Stormcast vs Chaos is also a pretty easy guess from there.
I know the Kill Team studio guys were pushing hard to get new minis assigned to them (and used the slow sales on the faction starters and commander sets to say that they needed something new) and now they've got the new format we've seen in the latest release of a more aggressively priced product with new models and more material (twice the missions per set for example). I had hoped they'd follow the new coke formula with Warcry, and will be disappointed if they don't. (...)".
BRING
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1 hour ago, Chikout said:
This is definitely a skirmish game. Sam ‘hinterlands’ Pearson has been tweeting about it. Everyone has been speculating that he would do a new skirmish game since has was hired. It looks like this is it. If we look at the progression of complexity we have gorechosen, underworlds, killteam, Necromunda. I think this will sit between underworlds and killteam has in terms of complexity. It will be played on a board like both killteam and underworlds but will have measurement. There will be some kind of mechanic involving cards. I would like to see new warbands underworlds style but also rules for using your existing collection. It will have a short play time.
I would like to see some cool rules for interactive scenery and multilayered environments. Some new scenery would be awesome.
This is now my most anticipated release of the year. I can’t wait to see how it turns out. I am just worried it won’t release until the autumn.
Oh really ? I have to check his Twitter account !
Man I'm 100% with you on that. So excited (well, more than this morning, as a Khorne AND Black Legion fan
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50 minutes ago, Aelfric said:
There was a time when the All-Points was under nobody's control and was disputed territory. There is no reason why this new game couldn't be set in this time era allowing all Grand Alliances the chance to contest for it. Alternatively, the Necroquake could have had an impact on the All-Points (It being connected to every Realm and therefore particularly susceptible to it's influence), leaving it open once again to be contested.
Well, no, because in the trailer, Archaon is speaking, or at least the narrator is talking about the Eightpoint, so the Chaos-corrupted Allpoints.
And the Allgates are already "open" i.e. active (but the Heaven one) ; some of them still have Chaos fortresses around them.
And even if all Chaos-held all gates fell due to the Necroquake, there would still be the Varanspire itself to conquer...
But since the Realmgate Wars day 1, it's indeed Sigmar's goal to retake the Allpoint, so as you said there is enough fluff reason to see all Grand Alliances fighting to take control of it.
Alternatively, we could see a game where different Chaos warbands try to reach the Allpoint, and have to fight each other and also Order, Death and Destructions bands on the road to the Varanspire (that would match the "bands wandering through strange landscapes" artworks of the trailer....).
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@Chikout With Archaon (probably) speaking in the video, the title being "answer the Call of Chaos" like the Black Library stories, and the setting being the Chaos-held Eightpoint and the Varanspire, the game looks strongly Chaos focused... BUT we could see other Grand Alliances as, for once, antagonists of the game.
If Warcry is to be the AOS Killteam, competitive like Underworlds, with high quality and typical models like Mordheim was once, it really should include all races and factions. But as of now it "only" looks Chaos centric. (As a Chaos player I don't mind, but as someone waiting for a good AOS Mordheim, I'd be sad if we only have Chaos guys in the game
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Warcry is probably, at least for me, the best news of today.
I'm a Chaos player in WFB, 40k, KT and of course mostly AOS, so I've been really spoiled by the LVO reveal. And if on top of everything else we get Slaanesh and Darkoath this year I'll have to sell body parts...
Now I have to say... In terms of rules, Kill Team is one if the best games I've played recently, so I have huge expectation for Warcry (kind of Chaos Mordheim in AOS ?)...
BRING. IT. ON !!!
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Regarding the LVO seminar, I think that for AOS we shouldn't set our hopes too high ;
The way I'm seeing it, we should take the LVO seminar from last year for AOS and 40k, and reverse it. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/
That would give us :
- For 40k, a full reveal for the Black Legion at Vigilus II, with just a tease for Abaddon at the end (because the countdown for him end in March, and because last year they just showed the tail of Morathi serpent body). So the main subject of the seminar.
- For AOS, maybe 1-2 future one-week-only Battletome (with endless spells and scenery), maybe 1-2 WHU warbands reveals (Kharadron and Sylvaneth), and that's it. And mayyybe a little trailer for Slaves To Darkness (who I believe will come mid-2019, before Slaanesh at least).
But GW does not follow strict pattern (to say the least)... So maybe I'm completely wrong 😛
P.-S. ; I quite like this focus on Chaos Universal and Deamons going on now between 40k, the Horus Heresy and probably AOS with the Slaves To Darkness. Hope we'll get new plastic Furies and Be'lakor ❤️
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1 hour ago, xking said:
What day is the LVO Preview?
8PM Las Vegas time Thursday, the GW article should be up either at the start as they usually do, or just after the Seminar (usually 1 hour so around 9PM).
In Europe / thats between 4 and 6 AM Friday... AARG
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3 minutes ago, Klamm said:
Aren't the Silver Tower minis on shared sprues? They released the Ogroid and the foot Gaunt Summoner alongside Tzeentch (oh, and the Knight-Questor for SCE). I mean sure, that might be a blip, but I'd be surprised if they didn't repackage the Deathrunner at some point (curious that it hasn't been mentioned). After all, for better or worse this release has embraced a degree of asset recycling, so why not give clan Eshin their only new hero in AoS?
GW took some positive steps in releasing some of the original starter set separately (Vandus and Korgos Khul). I think the Bloodsecrator and Khorgos box is sold out, but the models are still available in one half of the original starter, as they split the factions into Thunderstrike Brotherhood and Goreblade Warband boxes. While I feel for SCE player being unable to get a Relictor separately (well, other than Ebay), having them disappear entirely is way worse.
The whole limited edition model question is more pertinent when it's a distinct model (like the Ogroid or Khorgorath). When it's just an alternative sculpt of an existing unit, like the Silver Tower blue horrors, it's not such a problem. The caveat to this is when there's a quality disparity between the up-to-date looking limited edition sculpt and the 'official' model: a hideous hunk of resin/metal. The webstore Rat Ogors beside the Spire ones are like... well, Mantic beside Citadel.
But there's no definitive precedent. After all, the Darkoath Chieftain, Warpriest and Fyreslayer from Silver Tower are not on sale. Are they to be released alongside their parent faction getting an update? Who knows?
I mean, the fact that they've implied no new models *technically* doesn't preclude them from putting the ST Deathrunner up for pre-order on the 16th. Fingers crossed for Eshin fans.
No, the Gaunt Summoner (without the Familiars) and the Ogroid were on separate, individual sprues, as for the Heroes.
The Skaven, Grots and Tzeentch minions where all on shared sprues
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31 minutes ago, Emmetation said:
Yes there will. This may be slight miscommunication on my part, but a big thing for us is the day to day life in the realms and how people survive. We also have sections dedicated to major cities likes those you mentioned, I moreso meant that its present less in a factual and scholarly way and more in a natural way that can easily fit into your game.
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And will there be cities and WORLDS maps ?
As @xking said, we really need more "depth" and "realism" to the lore* (even if we are in a High Fantasy setting, it was always a trademark of Warhammer's universes to have kind of reliable aspects - moreso if we have to immerse ourselves in the lore at a RPG-level).
*I'm not saying there isn't right now, just NOT enough, NEVER enough 😛 The best things for AOS so far in terms of "general" worldbuilding is the Core Book and the Malign Portents short stories : https://malignportents.com/stories/ - as opposed to specialized worldbuilding, i.e. one area explored in a Black library novel...
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Thanks @RuneBrush for the Forge World news !
Now that main GW have a huge capacity production and do big plastic kits and swirly heroes, I think what FW could do best is :
1. Niche / Specialized Monsters and Heroes* ; EDIT : as @stato said above, a "Warhammer Age Of Sigmar Characters Series" based on Black Library heroes would be great.
2. Conversion packs (like WHF had for the Empire, the Stromcast one or HH) ;
3. Fluff books exploring in depth some area of the Mortal Realms, with that dark and more "realistic" tones FW always had (see Tamurkhan or Imperial Armour, Siege of Vraks 1-3).
*The problem being the esthetic consistency with the main GW lines, e.g. the Custodes Citadel and FW lines work very well together esthetically, even if in terms of units functions / rules some choices are redundant - the FW Moonclan line is more complementary with the Gloomspite Gitz in terms of rules, but it"fits" less in terms of look IMO - excluding the awesome Squig Gobba of course!).
Also FW, please do not try the "swirly" effect Citadel is doing plastic ; 30k Magnus' magical powers look less... well, good (again, IMO) than, say, the Avatar of Ynnead.
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4 minutes ago, Blueraven84 said:
Las Vegas Open next weekend so don't think we have to wait too long for the next patch of releases/rumours...
On the 40k side of things, we should get Vigilus II / Primaris / Black Legion & Abaddon teasers...
For AOS, I really don't know.
The last 2 Underworlds warbands ? The 2 new "confirmed" armies (Darkoath or Slaanesh) ? Maybe the new Battletomes for AOS1-armies.
On the Warhammer World New year Open day, GW said there would be a follow-up for Soul Wars, so maybe a new campaign supplement (with Order scenery pleeease) ?!
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24 minutes ago, Sete said:
But I gotta ask, why is the site owner "investigating" into the rumours?
Not the first time we got fake rumours about anything, certainly not the last, and soon enough he would be proven right or wrong. And we did get around talking about rumours.
I'm with Hollow Hills here.
These days "rumour" sites just repost WHC news and do previews of the stuff they get for signing an NDA.
So yeah sorry if I take rumours and this kind of "investigations" with a pinch of salt.
I'm glad the rumours are allegedly fake, it means Darkoath might come sooner, and I was sure sylvaneth will get a ranged unit and an updated tome this year.
But yeah it's Ben site and he can do whatever, even if I don't agree with how things are run around here.
I don't get you here Sete.
Everyone interested in AOS should be investigating AOS rumors, because we love rumors and are interested in them, and don't want to be lied to ? Ben, like some of us, probably just wanted to check the accuracy of a totally new and unknown poster.
Saying otherwise would just mean you just take everything you hear without any salt or critical mind.
In the end, NDAbreaker lied to us, which is pretty bad IMO. You should be thankful someone debunked his fake rumors, not salty over it.
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26 minutes ago, Nos said:
Less about money they make, more about the money they will lose if they get sued for hosting information which GW deem commercially sensitive.
Its perfectly understandable.
Well that's not the point.
Read Ben's post last page ; he just investigated on NDAbreaker and discovered he was fake. There was never any consideration of GW suing TGA...
@Kurrilino Ben made this website. Thanks to him we have a rumor thread, posters like LLV coming here, etc.
And please, show me an occurence of admin or a mod coming to the rumor thread (that they allowed to reach like 800+ pages) and try to silence someone ?
The never, ever, did that.. Your overreaction is out of place.
Honestly I am very disappointed by the posters who unilaterally believed a new, unknown poster's accusations of being "silenced" without asking for more informations... That's not the spirit of this forum at all. But I guess we're on the internet.
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From the BL Instagram video on Youtube (yeah..)
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I don't think we will be able to (or should be able to) play in the Realm Of Chaos - one would become instantly insane / mutated / destroyed in it (without the good godlike protections, that is
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