Kaleb Daark

I think that the gathering storm campaign will be the showcase for new daemon units and models and naturally there will be the cross over to AoS as a result in the same way the tzaangors were. daemons are important because they straddle both systems and new players can dip their toe into the curiosity pool without getting their pockets burnt, especially now that core rules will be free. what gw can't and don't want was what happened under the devil Kirby blackout, where people get nervous and jittery and sales stop stone dead because everyone is waiting. It's already startled to happen at one indi I go into, who has bought over 5k of stock only to have it sat on a shelf and not move. His customers have said that until 8th lands they're not risking buying anything, and the same goes for his AoS and ghb2. the fact the community is being drip fed what's to happen and how things will work is great, and they will hold the rules long before it lands I'm sure. thryve also said 30k players will still stay on 7th but I'm sure that once a conversion book comes out be it free or paid tHe community will migrate naturally to it out of choices because they have nothing to lose. It's the way 8th should have transited to AoS. i also thing that the rules will be of interest as it will also give clues to things that could be implemented or work in future AoS releases. haters gonna hate, but the truth is that 40k players don't have anything to belly ache about, they're having the rebirth we w,ou,d have killed for in fantasy. Theyve learnt the hard w,at from fantasy, now it'll be interesting to see what we can pick up for age of the empermar

But it's still a couple of months away, and by the time it lands you'll know all you need to know- which is what AoS should have been so nobody is walking into it blind or kept in the dark. as for AoS centric, yes, but our day will come.

Yes!!! im super optimistically excited because this is the, new face of the Rowntree era GW. end times and AoS was borne under the dark Claud that was Kirby and I still to this day believe that had AoS happened under Rowntree it would have been released with the generals handbook and a smooth transition that didn't alienate anyone. of course old codexes will be invalidated, but I bet good money that you'll get the rules in them on the data slate for the model and there will be the equivalent of battletomes to give fans of the faction all they need. for me the question will be how it will work with FW and the Horus heresy, but I dare say it will have been long in discussion as its ugh a lucrative element of the cash flow.

so.. you've got a mammoth with a chieftain in it. You happen to have some marauder horsemen. in your hero phase you can get the marauder horsemen to roll d6 and move them that far towards the enemy. if you deployed at the 12" line then with the marauder horsemen's move of 12 + an average of 3, that's 15" move with a 9" javelin range at the end of it. not too shabby especially with their feigned flight ability. not exactly sayl bs, but you probably could get close enough to him to turn him into a pin cushion with some lucky javelin throws.

the mammoth is a lot bigger than the Mammuk, which is in turn a lot bigger than a stonehorn. I'm fortunate in that I managed to shoehorn a mammoth out of my friends' brother's paws, however I know he needed the cash so we left it at if he ever wanted it back he could buy it back for the price he sold it at, and thus, now I have two I just really want the marks to return to them and the skin wolves for no other selfish motivation than I want all my army mortal khorne. If not, then hey ho, chaos allegiance it is - because, looks cool. I would heckle their FB page but I don't do FB anymore since my old page got hacked, so I'm a bit wary of their 'security' now.

So where does it stop? we already have guys that will argue that the second rank always attacks because they squeeze in the gap in the middle of two other models, who when moving a wood out of the way will park models on where the tree was. So this dude makes the fact that a 32mm base shouldn't let him hit a bit academic. today it's minutiae of bases, tomorrow it'll be that and the next day it'll be another thing. until you have a game with one build and one cheese to rule them all as 8th became, and them those same people who brought it to that will decry the game/faction/colour of cheese as being broken and what a rubbish game its become. @Auticus I agree, and like you won't rebase on somebody's say so. One day I will rebase, but it will be a long way off. theres a lot of great stuff in this thread but there's also a lot of "I'd win if the rules were like this" bs. Let's not turn it into what was left behind or go down the road of the CCG's. everything here in this thread should enrich the gaming and the model ownership experience, not the scoresheet of rank chasers. War gaming and role playing was around long before tournaments and I don't recall struggling to have a great time back then.. but then you just had to use common sense rather than be spoon fed. ...and calm.

or perhaps we say that if unit A is involved in melee, then any troops in unit A NOT engaged in melee are free to shoot over at hero B, otherwise, they cannot shoot at all unless their warscroll says otherwise, and even then, only at the unit they are in melee with - like chaos dwarf fireglaives, who's melee weapon is also their firearm.

So the cinematic dream comes closer, marauder raiders battalion warscroll from Warriors of Chaos Compendium three units of 40 mareavers because khorne, two units of horsemen a warshrine and some skin wolves ... and two mammoths. and my campaign is up two bodies, great, we can start piling the pressure on now! I've sent a couple of emails now we might have to get the big guns out and start heckling on their facebook page!

well in the original Tamurkhan book the mammoth could take a mark and had the choice of being a troop carrier (howdah) or warshrine carrier - which was mentalness as you suddendly had the thing rocking a ward save on top of everything else. In arcanum the skin wolves were again allowed the options of being marked. I do believe that the only reason we don't see more creatures of chaos in armies is because they potentially break allegiances. I'm currently working on the marauder army I always wanted now that the bloodreavers are here, and hence my warshrine conversion and mammoth work. The final touch will be skin wolves. I so dearly want them to be able to keep khorne mortal allegiance but currently the best I can hope for is chaos. as even the skin wolves will break Slaves to darkness.

don't worry, I'm running a one man campaign to get FW to return the marks on the mammoth and skin wolves! if we're really lucky it might become a two or three man campaign one day

The only thing I can moan about is that in fantasy as was, they could be marked, now they can't, but they are great fun.

I've just read and re-read that battalion. they don't even have to stay near him, just be in range when he opens the portal... epic. I'm looking forward to this book. If we could have marked beastmen, minotaurs, skin wolves and mammoths life would be complete... well on a nerd level at least

I think you're doing great Firstly those shields.... where did you get those shields! (and helmets) Now to capes, like Davariel I really don't think they need them. iIf you do want to greenstuff some cloaks it might be worth you finding a cloak on a model you like, and roll out some greenstuff and then mould it to the model's cloak. When it's dried you could then carefully peel it off and glue it onto the warrior. - naturally coat the model's cloak in a water based lubricant first so that it comes off cleanly but also then you can just wash it off. Perhaps you could do a pennon or back banner instead to mark them? Metallic stuff is quite easy - it really just depends what you're trying to go for and what level of richness in the colours. For my bronzes I generally start by washing the base colour with a brown wash, something like agrax or devlan mud as was. I actually use Daler rowney inks for most of my work so my washes are never exact from one batch to the next, more relying on what feels and looks right. then griffin gold dry is very good for that final glinting edge. When I last did Slaanesh I used hellstriders on marauder horses - well worth getting abox for all the slaaneshy bits like heads and arms on them. I started with a base of an aluminium colour and then did a wash of very thin dark blue. I then drybrushed the base back on, then griffin gold, and finally used the necron compound with some silver in it to pick out the final highlights. the blue bled through the layers. Those shields on your guys would look amazing in rich bronzes and a freehand sigil would just finish them off beautifully.

B'Jaysus!!! Might have to get a box of khorne farmers after all to take advantage of the skulltake battalion

nah I've been trying to squint at that one for ages... I'm getting old!

are we to hope that the slaves to darkness might be included in the battalions somewhere? Also I hope khorgoraths are upped to units of 8... 6 is such a slaanesh number!

they already have in the form of the wrathmongers - khorne farmers in armoured dungarees.

I played a very fun game today with this... I decided to play my khorne host (open play), so I had a skullgrinder and an aspiring deathbringer. In the first round when I couldn't do alot, I killed my aspiring death bringer - the killing blow being dealt by the skullgrinder. I thought it quite fitting for a khorne host. In fact with a khorne army I think sacrifice is quite fitting as the exalted deathbringer can inflict mortal woulds on a friendly unit to enhance his command ability,

very subscribed

I've always played pure khorne since Slaves to Darkness back in 3rd, so I'm super excited. I really hope this battletome not only gives the obvious but also brings in more of the slaves to darkness faction as well, encompassing khorne as across the entire face of chaos.

This could have been pulled straight out of Slaine the King. The beast looks just like lord slough Fegg the drune lord. inspirational work.

now that's impressive

I'm going to go even more out of the way and go for it being a big duardin piloted automaton thing- a dwarf dread knight thingy- steam powered of course.

new 40k will certainly be happening this year.. Q3 if not late Q2 apparently.

beautiful work and very inspirational. I've always looked to my Slaves toDarkness book for inspiration so I totally get where you're coming from with these conversions. I've got nearly all the original Slaves to Darkness Slaanesh warrior models so if you want me to photograph them close up for you as a reference I'd be more than happy. Big banners and funny legs for the win