Ollie Grimwood

Turns out I’ve got a few Boarboyz knocking around so I’m going to add a bit of cavalry to my Waaagh. Do the shields, stikkas and Hit and Run make the Savage boarboy an option or is it Maniaks all the way who do seem the better and more fun option on paper?

It was done the Warmachine was built. The great tarnished brass cannon jutted over its prow. A weapon which could vomit forth the pure energy of the Orruks to smash their foes. A pained whisper breathed out, “Please let me, die” “Hur, Hur no chance Artur” chuckled Olrog, “you get in my business you get the fangs Oomie, ‘sides turns out you’re mite more use to me alive than ded” The captured mage fell silent. Crucified to the machine he slumped into a defeated unconsciousness. Somehow he was a conductor of Waaagh energy. His body was like some lightning rod for the energy, drawing it into himself allowing it to be concentrated and used by one with the skill. It wasn’t complete though. Even with the vast energies provided by the WAAAGH and a pair of boys on the pump it couldn’t fly and fire the cannon. This simply wouldn’t do having the machine crash into the ground every time of fired would he both unsatisfactory and ultimately fatal. Gathering his command cadre Olrog put them to the task of solving this dilemma. “Why not just ram stuff?” provided the ever direct Bolg. This statement of direct brutality from the Megaboss earned nods and grunts of agreement from the assembled bosses. “Cos it’s really hard ramming flying stuff” said Olrog’ “‘sides you saw what those big shooty rats did to the lads, the Wagon would get well smacked up by that sort of fing before it even got close” “Aefermey” muttered the Shaman Gaztrukk. “Wot!” Snorted Olrog “Aefermey Boss. The Chief Ded Un Nagash has let off a big Wierd bomb there’s majik and stuff just lying around all over the place.” “Hold on!” Interrupted Blog “Int Nagash the Ded Un wot owes you money Boss?” “Yer you’re right Bolg but that’s gotta wait, Gaztrukk tell me more about these pools of majik.” “Well Boss it’s like I sed, there’s pools of if and if you mix it wi more majik stuff it’s ded powerful. There’s a bit of problem though” “Wot sort of problem” snarled the Warboss. “Weeelllllll’ Gaztrukk said as he pulled an item out from under his robes. “Wots that, some sort of lazy Squig?” “Nar it’s Quizbob, one of my trainees, or rather it woz eez a tater now” “A tater?” “Yeah it’s an edible root tuber, Oomies love em” “I know what a Tater is Gaztrukk, why is Quizbob wun?” “It’s the Aefermey Boss, that’s wot I’m sayin, it’s dangerous. Get it right an it’s well powerful, get wrong then poof, tater” “How’s that gonna help then if the Wagon crew keeps getting turned into taters?” “Well Boss I’ve gotta plan see, if you let me ave one of the Troggoths, one of the less stoopid ones. I’ll show im ow to chuck majik stuff together and rite down wot he uses an if it goes wrong he’ll grow back” “Nice” grinned Olrog “is there somewhere where there’s more of this Aefermey stuff?” “Yes Boss I know where there’s loads” “Well done Gaztrukk, we’ll get the boys over there and get some, an where there’s majik there’s gonna be Panzeez likely we can ave a bit of fun while we’re at it. You can ave Mag Wort he’s ded clever for a Troggoth he doesn’t eat rocks or nothin”

I’m not sure I’ve much to discuss seems entirely plausible and very much in line with what they did with Space Marines when moving them to 32mm. There might be a element of wanting some consistency with the other 4 wound models in the Destruction GA and Troggoths/Maneaters won’t fit on 40s but that might be stretching a bit. I’d like your reasoning to be true but we’ve not had much in the way of rumour regarding Ogors of any stripe

Careful you sound like you’re selling real estate ? I did put some Troggoths next to for Ironguts and the bases did look huge in comparison. Though I do remember thinking the same when a lot of stuff moved from 25 to 32. I think 50s may look peculiar as the Ogre units all with their feet close togeather rather than a wind stance so there will quite a large ring of empty space around the model. It’s not like when the models feet all overhung 25mm bases

Cheers @Chris Tomlin I see what you mean about staggering the models. I wonder if this will be mitigated some by the new piling in rules? Could the tagging you mention be used to your own advantage to direct enemy pile ins as well? I can see the issues now. I can’t help feeling that there might be a net benefit here though and it might be worthwhile trying a few thing out. I’ve got some Troggoths on 50s and they’re pretty handy at tying stuff down. Though it’s fairly obvious I’m not the most competitively minded. It’s a bit difficult though because I’m fairly sure, like me, everyone’s Ogor units are on 40s and rebasing just to check it out is not something I’d relish.

Gameplay wise (not modelling as that’s fairly obvious) would someone explain why 50s are worse than 40s. 2” range still allows you to attack over the front rank (for Ironguts). The greater board coverage is surely useful especially with such a low mode count?

They’re aren’t too shabby as long as you have the Shields (double choppas looks cool but isn’t a competitive option compared to the Shields). When equipped with choppas and in numbers they are better offensively. Against stuff with dam 2 and above it does get alarming when you’re used to 2 wound Savage Orruks. If you’re going mixed Destruction they’re okish but don’t really provide enough to be worthwhile taking up allies space in a Bonesplitterz Alliegence,

I’ve run out of likes, all of these are great.

Looking good. Looks like you’ve got plenty done for some AoS2 summoning fun as well

They never attributed it to any system it was just the back cover art. Though by then WD was pretty much all GW stuff so WFB or WFRP. The artist is Paul Bonner

This picture (from the rear cover of WD114) also reminded my of the Dark Crystal

If you want cheaper models go historical much less expensive than fantasy ones.

I’ve bought 3 Greenskins Start Collecting boxes ?. Value can be very subjective if you don’t want something it isn’t going to be worth anything to you but if you want it, it’s suddenly worth more

They will do the same for all the old WFB armies they’ll have a Warhammer Legends rule set. The AoS factions will remain separate. So there’ll be an Orcs and Goblins Warhammer Legends that’ll have Greenskins, Black Orcs , Savage Orcs and all the other stuff that was in WFB. Bonesplitterz and Ironjawz will remain as AoS Factions. Stuff that was only released for AoS won’t be in the Warhammer Legends rules like Orruk Brutes for example. So for example the models Currently Sold as Ardboyz will have a Warscroll and Matchplay points as part of the Ironjawz faction but will also have a Warscroll as Black Orcs in the Warhammer Legends: Orcs and Goblins when it come out.

Well all the Dark Aelf stuff one can still buy (with exception of the limited made to order stuff) has points and is available for Matchplay through the AoS factions. Darkling covens, Order Serpentis are still there and Daughters of Khaine were expanded. Warhammer Legends is a separate different thing side by side with AoS. I’d expect to see a separate Lizardman rules release entirely independent of the Seraphon

I’d say not to worry there’s 3 ways to play for a reason. If matchplay is he one for you there’s no problem with that. I don’t think anybody here is going to pursade you that open/ narrative is the way to go as you seem to want something different from your Warhammer something which is better catered for with Matchplayed.

There’s quite a large range to Open play from just throwing a couple of units down and playing to quite complex Battleplans with their own balancing mechanics and extra scenario based rules. Many peoples first experience of wargaming will be through open play (when I worked for GW it’s how we taught people to play). For me it’s how I started then I moved on to Matchedplay and then back to more advanced Open play once I’d tired of Matchedplay. Of course this is way before AoS and I’m using terms that didn’t exist then but that’s what they were. I’ve always found OpenPlay as an excellent way to avoid hobby burnout and it prevents the stagnation of play very similar games all the time.

It’s a Greenskin or Greenskin related and anyone who says different is a Stunty lover.

They are still on Azyr, their warscrolls aren’t downloadable on the App you should still be able to access them if you had them already (which happens elsewhere the old Cauldron of Blood still shows up but can’t be downloaded for DoK), I’d check them though because they may well be different to the current Legends ones.

Surely the points from the AoS faction units using the same models and the GHB16 compendium points would suffice for almost all cases in term of casual pick up games. Yes some of the Dark Elf units are better in the Legends but they also don’t have Alliegence abilities, battalions or artefacts (unless I’ve missed them) so should balance enough for most games.

I think some may have been raging so long they can’t see when they’ve been done a solid. Ironical the most rage I’ve seen is from people who claim to love The WtW but if they generate too much heat the response from GW is that they simply won’t bother there certainly isn’t any pot of gold sitting at the end of a rainbow made of Mengil’s Manflayers. If gets too much trouble it isn’t worth their time This is nice thing GW are doing. I find it galling as there are people out there who are doing some very cool WtW stuff with AoS rules but as usual it’s being drowned out ( on other platforms not TGA I might addd) by the usual bunch of ragequiters from yesteryear. P.s. Id never really spent any time looking at the mounted sorceress or dreadlord (filthy elfs ain’t they) They are awesome models.

Count me in.

I’m happy to chip in, patreon or somthing similar would be fine. If voluntary contributions could cover the expenses it would be better in my mind as I’m aware some are less able to pay than others. Hobby related Ad banners might work. I was just thinking of the hilarity of using ad banners for (narrative) propaganda purposes before an event.

Love the Blood Knights kitbash, great looking army.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH Ahem, excuse me rather keen for this one