MitGas

While I'm thankful for your long and informative replies, I still think that the horse pointing downward in motion is simply wrong. The horse on the left simply looks weird pointing down like that, the angle is too steep even if the overall movement pattern is kinda correct. It can be easily fixed but a tiny bit less dynamic pose might've made for a better kit. But it's fine if everyone disagrees here too. I know less than ****** about horses but it doesn't look ideal to me with its butt far up in the air like that. Oh and regarding movies: The biggest thing apart from proper screen-acting (which is very different to theatrical acting) is simply the low frame-rate IMO. Neither Will Smith nor Gandalf can make high framerates not lose some of cinema's magical quality and stop things from looking kinda mundane as soon as the framrates goes above 25p (maybe 30p if we're generous).

You know, a bit off-topic but if we're talking about static models and poses... Why does one of the Varanguards (and to a lesser extent, one of the new Chaos Knights) have a horse that looks like it's it's going to trip or at least throw its rider off? That pose with the horse's front part being so low looks kinda weird to me... 🤔

Okay, you win. Fair point! Well, you could strike them better without a banner I guess.

Kinda makes sense for Chaos Warriors in general! Which Chaos Warrior would want to be on music and banner-bearing duty when he could strike their foes instead?

Oh and with a bit of work and some bits (maybe Liberator legs) they'd make fine "marked" warriors, I just made a Tzeentch mockup.

Just wild speculation by me but perhaps the Warriors won't be able to wield two weapons and/or greatweapons because they'll make a new Varanguard/Chosen kit that will fulfilll that exact role. There are also Blood Warriors for 2 hand weapons. I think they'll look at Black legion for this, where certain "cult" units are a normal sight in an otherwise undivided force. Then the CWs being pushfit and no standard kit coming would be no problem. The huge cloaks would also make it hard for them not to be pushfit anyways unless the poses are quite generic. Obviously I'd gladly buy multiple versions of Chaos Warriors...

Guys, can't tell you how happy I am with this new box. My Tzeentch army will have almost everything i wanted with these new guys (already planning how to make them a bit more Tzeentchian but i got some ideas.... Awesome update! Will buy 1-2 boxes asap.

Or just give us proper Varanguard/chosen on foot, ideally with enough bits to make them look god-specific. Tzeentch and Slaanesh could use some armored troops to be complete, Nurgle and Khorne kinda got theirs already. Either way, updating Chaos Warriors would be a wise move - lots of aligned armies would be potential buyers and they are kinda iconic. And if I'm wishlisting: I want a plastic Curseling. The finecast one is lovely but Finecast is not. Or give us a proper Tzeentch Chaos Lord. You know, one that is like they used to be - very powerful in close combat (not as strong as Khorne champs) and a full-fledged sorcerer on top. Right now I really miss that Chaos champions and warriors are really good at what they are supposed to be good at. Why sell your soul if your're just average?

Those Warcry monsters are awesome. 😍

I dunno, I've been here for the release of all other said factions (SC, KO, ID,...) and to me it feels very much like Bonereapers get the most bad comments and divide people more than even KO who are indeed very sci-fi for AOS. Of course there are also some that love the OBR dearly, I don't wanna badmouth the new faction. Just saying that I've never seen a faction divide the AOS fandom so much so far. Like I said before I think they'd be almost awesome but something irks me about their look in the end so they're missed opportunity - which is totally fine.

I think it's safe to say that the Bonereapers are the army that divides people the most so far. Some love it and it seems like most actually don't really like them. Personally I like some visual aspects of them. The Yoshimitsu faces, the Samurai cues, the HR Giger-like design are all things I normally love but if thrown together with lots of bony plates (the big culprit) they somehow don't work for me. Personally I just think Morghasts suck - because they got way too many lines and other ****** on them - lots of bones for their limbs (like their legs) are okay but then don't add useless lines on their metal armor - it's too much. Their design is horrible IMO and pushing that aesthetic in there made the Bonereapers fall apart - it's a bit of a convoluted mess that is the direct opposite of what classical Undead are (on purpose obviously but less is always more). I love the Nighaunt and the Shadespire set of skeletons is awesome too. I think these new guys would've been better if they didn't make them cobbled together constructs and instead the undead remnants of a truly magnificent warrior dynasty. Or rethink their armor design.

Hell yeah to those news. I was hoping for a bit more armored look but the Tyrants look promising already and will hopefully make a Varanguard on foot kit come sooner than later. That fomoroid thing is pretty damn sexy as well, despite the name sounding like a pain in the butt!

They definitely share a few cues with other Slaaneshi stuff. The Unmade fit other aspects of Slaanesh as well though, so both could lean in that direction. As long as people stop claiming the Cypher Lords are Slaaneshi in any shape or form, it's fine. It's hard to find something more tzeentchian outside of Kairic Acolytes and especially the leader with the third arm just screams ol' T. Ideally Slaanesh would get a mortal kit as well. Would've been cool to see every God get their own spin on Chaos Warriors but hell, if we get vanilla ones, we could build lovely God-specific stuff too. I mean mix SCE with similar sized stuff like Blood Warriors and slap the Cyper Lords helmets on and you got a pretty nice Tzeentchian warrior IMO.

Yeah, but still - no new Chaos Warriors after all this time is quite baffling. No single other unit is that beloved in WHF and even God-specific units can't replace them. If they wanna earn cash, they should release them. It's a bit as if they redid all 40k factions and updated Space Marines last. it makes absolutely no sense. That said, I'm happy we got a dedicated Tzeentch force, now I got DoT and Thousand Sons to collect - but 99% of Chaos players like Chaos Warriors and right now they are pretty bad and the kit (despite being great for its age) doesn't hold up, especially because they're too small. I hope I don't sound overtly aggressive but you gotta wonder why they don't release stuff people would instantly buy in a heartbeat. @Varanguard: And they're hardly usable in God-specific armies... and few play StD or Archaon's boys.

Marketing-wise it makes absolutely ZERO sense to put Chaos Warriors/STD at the end as Chaos sold more than most other armies from WHFB combined. Sure, that itch got scratched with the god-specific armies but frankly in relation almost nobody gives a damn about ogors or Aelves in relation to simple Chaos Warriors who made up a majority of WHFB sales. That GW hasn't managed to get a new kit out for the single most iconic Warhammer unit is baffling at this point, especially because 5/6 are potential buyers.

Lovely idea and very promising start - kinda makes me think of He-Man's Kobra Khan.

While there are things to like, the Yoshimitsu (a poster here pointed that out, and I love it - thanks to you it clicked why I like their weird faces)/Giger look (like biomechical Necrons) is unique so I think this army falls into a love it or hate it category. It's funny that Nighthaunt do as well as I find they are magnificent and totally in-line with a fantasy world - these bio-Necrons are a bit more unusual, so i understand if someone isn't a fan. Still quite unhappy we can't get new Chaos Warriors (or Chosen, or even 5 good sculpts for armored Chaos loons for Warcry... anything in that vein) (CW are arguably the most iconic Warhammer infantry) or a normal faction that grounds the setting though. Cities of Sigmar seems to get almost no love and that is a damn shame as we've got so many terrors but nobody to terrorize. Stormcast are fearless exterminators, we need the guys who fight these things and be scarred for life if they happen to suvive an encounter with such things to ground this setting. The horror people felt in Praag was what made that particular story interesting in WHFB, not some OP (Chaos) Warlord.

Not a single Ogor. Big fat MEH from me... they could've at least shown a new warband for warcry or something Chaos-y. (yeah, I know we don't get to complain but i still do, sue me!)

We didn't have a single dedicated mortal unit like Slaanesh's Hellstriders though so from the human mortal perspective it's even now. We did get dedicated Beastmen however but I wouldn't count them towards the human mortal aspect - ideally new Chaos Warriors/Chosen would be "clean" enough to fit right into Slaanesh and Tzeentch armies as Nurgle and Khorne have dedicated "Chaos Warriors" anyways.

Regarding new models for Tzeentch: We'd be lucky if we got a Curseling or Fatemaster, I'm only counting on endless spells as a given (I mean... he's the god of magic after all...). But if they gave us Varanguard/Chosen on foot, we could quite easily kitbash those two for the time being and literally every Chaos faction would get a new toy to play with. If they do make a new sculpt for the Curseling, I'd love for it to look similar to Vilitch. It's a great model IMO.

I haven't used Contrast Paints yet but from what I gathered you're actually supposed to varnish after using them anyways, as they rub more readily off than classic paints. If you varnish with a matte coat, paint will easily stick to it - matte paints a very porous, hence they break the light and make the finish duller than let's say gloss varnishes - that's also why a gloss coat makes washes/shades or even oil paints flow better and stain the whole mini less, as the surface is much smoother and the wash can flow into the crevices easily. You might need to it again with a matte coat after you're done though, as many acrylic paints have at least a semi-satin finish, which is often reflecting light more than the varnished version. If your paintlayers are thin enough that won't hurt the overall quality of the paintjob though!

Watch the Warhammer TV tutorial for it, looks like they got the steps straight from the guy that painted the official models like they did with the Sector Mechanicus tutorial. You could also tint it with a different color than green (I think they used Loren Forest with Lahmian Medium to tint it green) pretty easily, in case you want more blue-ish or let's say red stone.

The familars getting dropped is akin to sacrilege - they are too cute. ☹️ My GS will still have them by his side even if they have no effect now. 😂 Personally not much changes for my lists - the spells getting more expensive is the biggest change indeed, the enlightened point bump cancels itself out with others becoming a tiny bit cheaper.

Could well be that the new Battletome will be the biggest one yet but I'm also kinda miffed that their update takes so, so much longer than those of the other 4 heralds. or you do it like me and settle for the BY FAR best God there is, Tzeentch (tzeentch even beats unaligned). When StD hit, you can use half of their units with a mark anyways and probably ally in everything else you'd want from them. And meanwhile you get sexy Tzaangors, the beautiful Gaunt summoner and other truly handsome fellas, like the Ogroid thaumaturge! Don't despair just yet!

For those in Germany (or Austria etc.), "battlefield berlin" has Warcry in both English and German for 110€ - quite a bit cheaper than GW. Soon to be proud owner of the new amazing Warcry scenery and the lovely Cypher Lords. Oh and those awesome new Sylvaneth trees.