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It's insane, was someone who was very much offended by the pointy ears treatment in End Times put in charge of this hot garbage? I'll say it now but LRL seem beyond Pre-nerf Petrifex level of broken. For the record I never though Petrifex were but that's another story. Based on this SGL should be absolutely barmy. Although I hasten to add points cost will be a crucial thing with these. God I'm sick of Aelves, can't we have some Orruks, Duaridin or even Skaven?

I’ve said it elsewhere and I have no clue how they’d implement as in previous incarnations you just paid points for them but vampiric powers need to come back!

Hopefully a return to being what they were in wfb, although vampires in general have taken a power decrease it feels like. Turbo charge all of them!

I hope you are right and I'm wrong, I'd love them sooner but just don't see it myself. Hopefully there's still more we haven't seen as well.

I'd say hold off. Last thing you want is to start a new army and then have a load of outdated models. The start collecting box will probably be kicking around for a while before they get rid of it. Wait until the big release and start with all new in keeping models.

100% agree, can't see them being released this before Autumn at the earliest. Crimson Court we know is April Cursded City perhaps April or May, actual Soulblight Gravelords can't see it so early tbh.

So do we reckon crimson court will be out before cursed city? that could be our first chance to see what new vamps look like.

Is she on an Oval base?! I prefer the Vamps in the Underworlds warband but she's still good.

So hyped for this. I'm preparing myself for the inevitable disappointment of Abhorash not appearing (i'll still hope until it's 100% he isn't in it.) but even if he doesn't I could live with it given all the other cool stuff. We do need a new centrepice model though...

The executioner is huge! As others have said, seem to have some skeleton archers not doing much atm and a box of necron warriors (with the green clear plastic thing) have to say though I’m probably ditching OBR now my first st love is getting the attention it deserves.

I’m considering fell bats. I’ve never considered fell bats in all the years I’ve been in the hobby! (FYI extremely late 5th ed for web, and 3rd ed 40k although I couldn’t care less about the fate of smurfs these days)

Yeah I’m in a similar position, I’m probably GW’s perfect customer; already have loads of skegs and a full vampire count army but going to ignore that and start afresh lolz.

This won’t be everyone’s bag but I hope they somehow can do the fear mechanic for AoS that made the army really thematic in the old days. Yes most of the units were appalling but if an enemy failed a fear test things got interesting...

Also more generic zombies that aren’t as silly as the warhammer quest ones! Zombies have never been my cup of tea but I know the quest ones rubbed people up the wrong way. I find it quite hilarious that the undead seem to have the most horses in the game! Give me Abhorash and take my money games workshop!

“Leading legions of the undead in their conquest are the Vampire Lords, frighteningly powerful,” hopefully this means vampire lords are getting a serious stat boost and I pray blood knights will actually be good, make them 500 for 5 if they have to. In oldhammer they were perhaps the most devasting cavalry unit on the charge. I’d quite like them to be so again.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/20/warhammer-preview-online-faith-damnation/ PLASTIC BLOOD KNIGHTS!

Apart from going overboard on the necklace it's a win for me too. Love that it shares design cues with the Soulreaper who I think is a fantastic model just with somewhat lackluster rules. Hopefully this one is better in that department.

I don't even like it being two different armies from the same Grand Alliance. My brother has recently taken to Nighhaunt and has actually purchased additional units for my army that I did not want so he can use them against my Grand Host! He doesn't see a problem but it just really irks me as Death is probably the one GA where you wouldn't (yet) get infighting.

ABHORASH.

Anyone know anything about either characters from the horse vs horse fight? 😃

It's in the battletome somewhere that they can choose 3 spells and they have access to both lores. Haven't got mine with me atm but will give page number when I get home.

All but two are named characters which I wasn't a fan of becoming generic vampire lord models, so that's good. Hope it's late this year if I'm honest, they have released Vampire stuff around Halloween in the past.

Yeah the rat thing is a bit too close to those warpstone snorting weirdos. Get rid of all the rats and I love it lolz. In the article they say one of his powers is to transform into a rat swarm; I'd be very happy to see a return of Vampiric Powers...

We're going to end up with a lot of Vampire Lord models... Love the fact they're alluding to Vampiric abilities maybe being a thing again too.

The second part of this is where my dislike of elves in warhammer comes from. Tyrion and Teclis in the lore (end Times at least) were very unlikable characters for all the reasons listed. Malekith was actually a nicer, more level headed and compelling character than the two good boys who did know end of shifty things. Also it may not be the case and I am biased as I don't collect them but the Lumineth range seems massive compared to something like OBR or even the Aelf cousins the Idoneth. The nearest comparable size release I can think of is Nighthaunt which had a deluge of new models and obviously inherited some as well. Two battletomes so close to each other rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way as well, Lumineth and non Lumineth players. And when the 3rd LRL battletome comes out with Tyrion next January it will all happen again. Going back to oldhammer. High Elves had some ridiculous rules too, always strike first, fight with spears in three ranks instead of two. I'm sure there were more but it was never a great experience to charge a High elf unit and then not fight first.