Korazell Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hey there! If I have a model with a one use ability and it dies and then is brought back into play with an effect, can I then use the ability again? If it's not a named character, wouldn't it be treated as a new instance of that model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 It depends upon the wording on how they're brought back. Sorry to be vague! If a model is summoned then yes it'll count as a brand new model, if it's an ability that restores the model's wounds or brings them back from the dead then no as it's physically the same model on the table. The same 'rule' applies to models brought back into play from the purpose of some victory conditions - Skarr Bloodwrath won't award any kill points if he's still in play at the end of the game, even if he's been nuked multiple times during the battle because his special rule brings him back from the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The fact the ability specifies one-use only says you can't. After all, you can only 'die' once. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korazell Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks for answering! My friend and I were discussing what it meant rules wise when a generic unit leaves the table and comes back into play is all and we had a difference in views, thanks for helping us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Thanks for answering! My friend and I were discussing what it meant rules wise when a generic unit leaves the table and comes back into play is all and we had a difference in views, thanks for helping us out. Ah, this could be slightly different. A generic unit being recycled due to other rules (like the Orruk formation, name escapes me) would come out of reinforcement points. An ability on the warscroll - such as the carstein ring, Skarr's pool of blood thingy or Grombrindal's rez, would not. In effect, abilities on a specific unit's warscroll refer to all discrete instances of that unit. Abilities caused by other warscrolls/battalions/allegiance/scenarios normally mean you get a replacement of the same type - which costs - rather than getting the *specific* unit back. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHHaunts Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 most abilites like this e.g. Vlad say that the FIRST time he is slain. You can argue that once you bring him back hes a "new" unit so it applies again if you realy want. But anyone that does is definatley "That guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Shall we have the chat about whether (in Matched Play) you need to pay his points out of your Reserves pool when you put him back on the board? LOLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHHaunts Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 pretty sure the handbook FAQ clears that up . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Pike Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 9:03 AM, BaldoBeardo said: The fact the ability specifies one-use only says you can't. After all, you can only 'die' once. There are multiple units in the game that can die more than once! Plenty of Chaos units and come back to life in formations and other special rules. The more important thing about units coming back to life that no one has really considered is what happens to buffs/debuffs on the model? If you die and then use the Vamp ring to bring back your dude riding a zombie dragon, does he retain mystic shield if it was on him when he died? or does the Plaguepriest prayer remain in play on him for example? If it states you are set up as a new unit (Tzeentch cohort for example) then I would say you do not retain any effects as you are a new unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Sorry, meant 'die' in the totally final sense, not the bad-guy-falling-to-certain-death-half-way-through-a-B-movie way.Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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If I have a model with a one use ability and it dies and then is brought back into play with an effect, can I then use the ability again? If it's not a named character, wouldn't it be treated as a new instance of that model?
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