Malakithe

Im liking Mhornar the more I reread it. Reroll hits against a unit then getting +1 to hit from Escort Wing could wipe enemy units of choice quickly. How about this? The 50 extra points is akward but can be used for another CP I guess. Skyport: Barak-Mhornar- Additional Footnote: Today's Foes Are Tomorrow's CustomersAether-Khemist (140)- General- Trait: Opportunistic Privateers - Artefact: Gryph-feather Charm Aether-Khemist (140)10 x Arkanaut Company (120)10 x Arkanaut Company (120)10 x Arkanaut Company (120)3 x Skywardens (100)10 x Grundstok Thunderers (180)10 x Grundstok Thunderers (180)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Arkanaut Frigate (200)Grundstok Escort Wing (130)Total: 1950 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Wounds: 120

What sort of list can Thunderers shine in? Im thinking an Escort Wing Core of some kind.

I don't think mercs are worth using...in any faction no matter what mercs. With how GW points AoS sacrificing that many points for a situational gimmick isnt a good idea. For narrative sure but for a points based match nope. If AoS was pointed like 40k then it could work

Im liking the Escort Wing as a core...i tweaked your list a bit to mess around. Not sure about weapons and extras. I was just tossing stuff together but I like it. Skyport: Barak-ZilfinAetheric Navigator (80)Endrinmaster (120)Aether-Khemist (140)20 x Arkanaut Company (240)10 x Arkanaut Company (120)10 x Arkanaut Company (120)3 x Skywardens (100)10 x Grundstok Thunderers (180)5 x Grundstok Thunderers (90)5 x Grundstok Thunderers (90)Arkanaut Frigate (200)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Grundstok Gunhauler (130)Grundstok Escort Wing (130)Total: 2000 / 2000Wounds: 126

Hmm...yeah ive been thinking about a Sacrament version as well. Better for casters and beefing up the Horde to make then even harder to remove

Whats your general tactics with this list?

Hmm...yeah didnt think about all that. Good food for thought

i removed it and revised a bit. Still toying around. Could drop a unit of Wolves for a Balewind so a Necro can debuff...or something. EDIT: dropping a unit of Wolves I picked up a Balewind and Shackles. Allegiance: Grand Host of NagashMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersVampire Lord on Zombie Dragon (440)- General- Vampiric Sword & Shield & Chalice- Trait: Aura of Ages - Artefact: Ethereal Amulet Vampire Lord (140)Necromancer (130)Necromancer (130)5 x Dire Wolves (70)5 x Dire Wolves (70)5 x Dire Wolves (70)30 x Grave Guard (360)30 x Grave Guard (360)2 x Morghast Harbingers (200)Suffocating Gravetide (20)Total: 1990 / 2000

Thats not really a mechanic I would try to push to use. I was thinking more of how to maximize their retreat then charge again ability. They are cheaper then Grims but smaller max unit size...maybe 3x20? Would that work? Just flood the table with them lol

Tossing around some ideas...not sure where im going but mostly just playing with the new points Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon (440)- GeneralVampire Lord (140)Necromancer (130)Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140)20 x Chainrasp Horde (160)30 x Grave Guard (360)30 x Grave Guard (360)2 x Morghast Harbingers (200)Total: 1930 / 2000

Are Blades the new go to unit? Whats a decent list that can spam them?

My predictions so far. HB are going up in points for sure due to everyone crying about them. LoTL might go up as well. In light of that Vulkites and Mags are probably coming down due to their lack of being included cuz of HB taking the spotlight. Side note: how much better is the White Dwarf battalions and named hero?

This sums up what i want in a list lol

The issue with going spell heavy is all your dmg needs to come from those endless spells. Then you need to pray they arent reveresed on to you. Your trying to pull a LoN or Tzeentch but without the actual firepower or bodies

All those factions mentioned, except Tzeentch, will get hit within a couple weeks. GW already said their points adjustments are coming in july. Predictions are gristlegore gets stomped down. Skaven bs get reigned in via increase to Verminlords and guns. The terrain rules already mess with them. No idea about slaanesh. Fyreslayers will definitely get increases for HB. Gloomspite will most likely have reductions for squig stuff but increases for all wizards. Everyone is still adjusting to the points changes.

So i dont know where im going with this lol any help/suggestions to get this to a workable 2k? Edit: everything except for the EvoCats can be swapped/shuffled - Stormhost: Celestial VindicatorsLeadersLord-Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline (220)- General- Trait: Single-minded Fury - Artefact: Stormrage Blade - Spell: Celestial Blades- Mount Trait: Pride LeaderKnight-Heraldor (100)Knight-Incantor (140)Lord-Ordinator (140)5 x Liberators (100)5 x Liberators (100)5 x Liberators (100)3 x Evocators on Dracolines (300)War MachinesCelestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Everblaze Comet (100)Total: 1520 / 2000Extra Command Points: 9Wounds: 81

Found it. Its in the arcanites section. I dont look there usually lol

Where are the rules for arcane sacrifice? I cant find them anywhere

With points changes to Pinks what kind of lists can abuse them now? MultiHost? Changehost?

Agree. They are a fast punchy unit. Just a heraldor and CV for +1 attacks is good to smash into almost anything then delete it. If i want tanky calvary i would look at Fulminators

Whats a good baseline list that includes Dracolines?

Anyone make good use of thundercats? What would ve a decent list to build around some thundercats?

Yeah ill probaby only use them in GHoN lists as the other Legions wont have a use or benefit as much

To be fair though almost all death units just crumble. Thats why you play the long game and bring them back over and over

Since the new GG is the exact same as the old Grims its pretty much a direct swap. Im going to play around with 2 units in order to take advantage of them being battleline for GHoN. Morghast coming down by 20 will help cover the ne Necromancer cost. Im glad they didnt touch the VL or VLoZD