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I know it wouldn't happen in a million years but I really would love if the new edition was a Devoted of Sigmar or Cities vs Ironjawz. That way they can include some stormcast while also not having the new edition repeats the last few and also help prevent Stormcast fatigue and still give their poster boys some presence. Again, it won't happen but it would be cool.

I assume you will probably have to adjust for an additional few months for COVID and the possibility of an other wave so 2022 seems likely.

I think that is the interesting drawback to powercreep. If they update the premier faction at the beginning of each new edition and then have the other armies incrementally improve over them they get left behind. It is possible that this is by design as new players will buy into the star faction and then may want to move on as the edition progresses. But then it wraps around and they get the first round of updates in the following edition.

@ZamikThe scions of the flame look so cool. I currently have just the two from the starter set and I was waiting to see all the warbands before deciding on my third. Now it is a toss up between Corvus Cabal and Scions of Flame, I will see how they play before I decide. @KingBrodd I assume you are correct and I am truly hoping that Sons of Behemat get some fun Warcry scenarios.

That is very true, but they do seem to use underworlds as a place to test new models and warcry seems like a place to expand armies between tomes. But I cannot argue with the points that you make. But Warcry is relatively new and we only have Choas warbands currently represented. So we will see with the next wave of releases how that shakes out.

@alghero81 this is such a good idea as it would bolster all four god specific armies and also Beasts of Chaos. Also as you mentioned they would also cross over into other game systems with relative ease. I actually think Warcry and Underworlds would be a good place to introduce these models. Slaves to Darkness and Skaven... they can umm... get new models as well

This would be great! It would also be cool if they took the Tzaangor concept and gave them distinct bestial traits.

I am a great fan of the imaginative potential of this game. Someone making an all female Stormcast army based on classical Greek Amazonians would be an amazing, albeit expensive army to collect.

I already suggested actively reaching out to artists in the BIPOC community and increased transparency in terms of hiring policies. However, I think it would also be important to indicate steps to be taken forward to increase inclusivity and work against discrimination in the workplace. Keep in mind I do not work for the company and have no way of affecting their policies. Beyond voting with my dollar.

@dekay put it into very eloquent terms. It isn't about hiring someone simply due to the colour of their skin, but more about increasing their talent pool while also reflecting the world we live in. @AryannI am sorry that we will not come to terms on this subject as we have differing ideological view points.

They could actively pursue working with sculptors and writers, which is something they currently do anyway. Giving one artist a job does not necessarily take the work away from another. @Overread I do not know their hiring policies, but a lot of companies are exploring different avenues of outreach and are being more transparent about their approach. I do not think that GW is going to do a perfect job but it would be nice if they indicated what if any practices they maintained in regards to diversification.

I never said "force", I think there is a lot of projecting going on here.

I never said anyone should be fired, just that they should be more inclusive with hiring policies if they want to truly reflect their statements.

This edition seems really fun but largely inessential. I honestly think that is a positive thing as it means if I have some extra dough I will pick it up for the hero builder and aerial combat but I will not feel terrible if I don't pick it up.

If GW is taking the notion of diversity seriously it is something that they need to institute in hiring policies and creative decisions. The representation of BIPOC individuals in the games and narratives is important but it is important to have that reflected in the company as well. If they hire more diverse writers, designers and management it will likely be reflected in the game as a whole and encourage more people to enter into the hobby. I find it ridiculous that people are arguing that women in the military lack a historical precedent but are okay with magic, demons and trolls. Female soldiers have existed in history, so it is a little embarrassing that slightly better representation than what has existed in history or contemporary society is where people's incredulity begins and ends. 😅

I was only referring to the Great One's pathetic little underlings... they are the ones that need some assistance to bolster their meagre ranks.

I keep stating to my friends that I think GW could easily represent different races within the four god specific factions: Khorne - Duardin, a tough heavily armoured unit with low mobility or an artillery piece would work well with khorne. Slaanesh - Aelves, I personally want Malerion to fall to temptation, but I am cool with plain ol' Slaanesh worshipers too. Tzeentch - Beasts, Tzaangor already fill this role Nurgle - Skaven, once again this role is filled already by Clan Pestilens, but they could be fleshed out within Maggotkin a little better. This would need some work from lore writers and would need some more fleshing out ruleswise, but it would make the followers of each god feel more unique and provide more variety in terms of differentiating playstyle. Although I would be sad if they tried to imply that the different races couldn't worship the god of their choosing. Although as a Slaves to Darkness player, I really want a return of the Hellcannon manned by Chaos Duardin. And I really want to be able to use it in my undivided army. Considering the awesome bound demon concepts in 40k I think this would look stunning with modern sculpting and in plastic.

The exposed chords is definitely a trait of 40k Chaos models.

I feel like 40K 9th ed seems to have taken some lessons from AOS, so I am sure it goes both ways and we will get some of the transferable 40k rules.

Slaves to Darkness, Cities of Sigmar and Legions of Nagash were my immediate thoughts. I feel Stormcast is another possible option or any of the armies with larger model counts.

Has there been any news regarding GHB points for LoN?

I have seen absolutely nothing for certain armies (such as Legions of Nagash and Sylvaneth) have all the points been leaked or is it being released by leakers in a piecemeal fashion?

Essentially these changes save me 30 points letting me change a unit of ishlaen into morsarr... even though I like my ishlaen to morsarr ratio already... I could also change the way I am collecting and fit an Eidelon of the Sea onto my list, but at the cost of some better units and a battalion that I plan to run... maybe a low level endless spell? 😕 I dunno I am not complaining but I am not super impressed with these point changes.

I am netting an additional 100 points which gives me just enough room for Psychic cat or two spawn... I know we aren't getting much but I am excited for the addition something a little more 'Chaosy' to my list. I feel like the 90 pt heroes could have dropped 10-20 points but I am not as well versed as you more competitive players. With the point increase for Marauder Horseman will that affect their ability to be summoned via Rally the tribes? Some folks in the rumour thread are calling the authenticity of this list into question. As much as it benefits my Chaos Warrior heavy list, I am hoping that there is better news for S2D.

Thank you my friend, looks like I will have 100 more points to play with 🤠 Mindstealer Sphiranx or 2x Chaos Spawn here I come