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@Diemer84looks like a pretty aggressive list? With only minimal clanrats I'd be tempted to cast WLV preemptively, just to block of a section of the board. Very interesting list though! I'm want to hear how it goes.
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24 minutes ago, Gwendar said:
That said, with my most recent list, I could easily just drop my 30 Acolytes down to 25 and have enough to bring Vermintide instead...
May be worth trying next tournament at the end of the month, especially when so many local armies are pretty combat heavy and that would be a nice holdup.So such big units of acolytes work out well?
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@Asamu Thanks for the pointer! Warpgale it is! My list is rather magic heavy, which is why I thought Master of Magic was a good trait for the grey seer. But making the warpseer more durable is better you think?
The stormfiends are equiped with warpfire, shock guantlet, and warpgrinder. So I was going to burrow them, for some backfield harassment. Nice quipment outfit of the warlock. I was thinking that more more more warp power was a bit unrealiable to get of with the high casting value?
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Alright guys! I need halp! Gonna participate in my first tournament in mid may.
2k points, three rounds. A friend of mine is bringing Sylvaneth, there's gonna be som LoN, and probably Dok, FEC, and more.
I dont have a great unit selection as of yet, so I'm gonna get owned 0-3. But that's fine. I'm there for the fun!So I have the following units:
20 clanrats, 20 stormvermin, 20 plague monks, 3 stormfiends, 1 WLC, 1 WLC/catapult, 1 warlock bombardier, 1 warpseer, 1 grey seer, 1 plague furnace, 1 doomwheel. I also have balewind vortex, WLV, vermintide, doombell.
Realm artefacts are allowed, but we're not playing with the realm rules.What do you think about this list? Any tactical pointers will be appreciated.
Allegiance: Skaventide
Leaders
Grey Seer (120)
- General
- Trait: Master of Magic
- Lore of Ruin: Plague
Verminlord Warpseer (260)
- Artefact: Snoutgrovel Robes
Warlock Bombardier (100)
Plague Priest on Plague Furnace (180)
Battleline
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade
10 x Stormvermin (140)
- Halberd
10 x Stormvermin (140)
- Halberd
Units
20 x Plague Monks (140)
- Foetid Blades
3 x Stormfiends (260)
War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)
Endless Spells
Balewind Vortex (40)
Warp Lightning Vortex (100)
Vermintide (40)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 129
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@TheadTheOgorSlayerthanks! I'm a Skaven player myself. I was just curious about LoA. I've never faced them, but they seem interesting.
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Hey guys! Non Legion player here. How does the Legion perform against other armies, on the tournament scene, etc.?
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6 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:
He probably voted for me and not the model🥴
*sniff sniff* Is that... Is that weakness I'm smelling? Has my time come? Dorsal stabbing is in the air, yes-yes?
On a more serious note, what do you guys think about stormvermin in non-maxed out units. Aren't they just overpriced clanrats without the +1+1?
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Guys, I just wanted to take a moment and point out that the Skaventide discussion is often on top these days, as opposed to being way down. Yay!
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@GwendarÀ pleasure to read your battle report! Cool list! I suppose you would struggle against a strong magic list, like LoN? But other than that, this list seems pretty strong? How do you outfit Thanquol? And how do you fare against elite heavy armies?
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3 hours ago, Russrmc said:
Ooh then that's a new change... The nighthaunt example validates out in the app and builders just fine and I've seen it at events. Interesting... Skaven really are a race apart!
I don't think the warscroll builder filters out illegal battalion - allegiance combos, does it?
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Can I use any of the battalions in the book, while having Skaventide allegiance?
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@AngryPlatypus I've run a similar list in the past, with clanrats and lots of WLCs. The problem is you'll be relying on the WLCs to do most of the heavy lifting. If they have no answers for the cannons (range damage to take them out, or MW protection) the WLCs are really great though!
I haven't really tried doomwheels all that much, so not familiar with how they perform. I would be tempted to drop them both (and pherhaps and engineer), and replace them with 1-2 units of 5 gutter runners to put pressure on objectives, and then a melee unit with some punch. Plague monks, or rat ogors pherhaps. -
I'm confused about the FAQ. Did they imply that you should absolutely never have more that one warpfire thrower on Boneripper, because you can only make one warpfire attack anyways?
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Boosting WLC - is it worth it? Statistically the WLC will kill itself in 2 turns, but churn out 4 rounds of MW in 2 rounds. Your also locking an engineer to a cannon, potentially out of range of other useful activities.
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It's so sad that the Screaming Bell is so bad. To me it's the most iconic Skaven warmachine, and thematically just so so cool!
I love the idea of swarms of Skaven rushing forward, pushing the war altar forward, getting ever bolder and more frenzied by the bells clamor. -
If I put an arch-warlock on a balewind vortex, and place them on terrain, he gets +2 to his 3+ save, right? But he can't be brought to a 1+ save, right? Will a rend of -1 bring him up to 2+ or a 3+ though?
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On 1/12/2019 at 4:55 AM, Riff_Raff_Rascal said:
@gronnelg I argue they are still valuable when equipped with an artifact. Vanilla stat line doesn't ever give me confidence to even take down a 5 wound hero but give it Blade of Judgement with its double blade loadout and, well have fun. Here's the thing, its impossible to run right now. A mixed skaven list or even a dedicated non-skryre list should always be using the crown of conquest artifact for battleshock immunity. Using the grand alliance stuff really pigeon-holes skaven players because we can't take a second artifact without battalions.
The assassin is fun. Dont worry about him not being able to attack first. If you tactically place him at say 4+'' inches away from a hero about to pile-in, you're safe when they activate. Then the enemy unit now puts the assassin in combat so you can pile in afterwards. Take advantage of the chaff unit they pop out of by letting clanrats or others to die off in front of the assassin giving you the free lane to pile in. Hopefully that makes sense.
Thanks for your feedback. If you place the assassin outside of 4 inches, he's out of combat though, right? So your opponent is free to ignore him.
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@Skreech Verminking Yeah, I mean, he's good against heroes. But he doesn't have the "goes first" thing anymore. He only has 3 attacks, so if you get super lucky, he will do ~6 wounds. I guess that's fine, so long as you only use him to supplement whatever else your attacking the enemy hero with? And the assassin is going to super die to retaliation. So is it worth making him go first, instead of whatever other units you could have chosen, for potentially 6 wounds?
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How do you guys feel about assassins? I love the concept, but I not so sure they're worth the 100 points?
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So would you say Aetherquartz brooch has any place in Skryre then?
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Aerherquartz brooch - each time you use a CP, on a 5+ you get it back. What are peoples opinions on this artefact? Across 5 rounds + 1 starting CP that's a total of 6 CP. With this artefact you would statistically end up with a total of 8 in this situation.
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@Gwendar Where did you get those wound trackers?
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@Ratcliff Well done fellow rat! I'm guessing the 3 x priests were for prayers? How did they perform, and is it worth i bringing 3 of them?
What's the though process behind having several small units of monks, and then a big one. Did you need a lot of inspiring presence to keep the big unit alive? -
@Gwendar I appreciate you long-winded reply! Thanks :) Yeah, I think not getting my hammers charged, and keeping the cannons alive will be key. I'm very excited for the upcoming game. I might make a battle report!
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AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion
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So I'm a bit confused about the corruptors inherent MWs on 6s, vs SoJ. If I roll a 6, can I choose which one to activate, or does one take precedence?